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5 1/2 month old with bad breath

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I asked: >could a 5 month old display symptoms of diabetes?   >Glen answered: >If they were diabetic, how could they *not*?

*SIGH*  I MEANT … I wasn’t aware that such a wee little thing could get diabetes.   Krystal "Life isn’t measured by how many breaths we take but by how many moments that take our breath away" Eat the "treat" in my address to e-mail me.

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>SIGH*  I MEANT … I wasn’t aware that such a wee little thing could get >diabetes.  

A child this young can have diabetes although it is highly uncommon.  Youngest I have seen at work (pediatric ER nurse here) was about a year old. Jackie "Single parent…..who not only is happy about it, but proud of it…."

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Are you letting him try and feed himself or are you trying to do it all for him? Sue B.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Following on from my last post, charlie has now started rejecting all solids, in > a fitful rage. Mealtimes have become utterly unbearable and we often both end up > in tears. Has anyone got any suggestions…pleeeease! > Sarah

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>Following on from my last post, charlie has now started >rejecting all solids, in a fitful rage. Mealtimes have become >utterly unbearable and we often both end up in tears. Has >anyone got any suggestions…pleeeease!

Were I you, I’d back off the solids and feed only formula for a few days. *And* go to the pediatrician for a consultation on both this and the bad breath. It sounds as if he may have some sort of intestinal/digestive thing going on that’s aggravated by the solid foods, so the two could certainly be related. — Be well, Barbara (Julian [7/22/97] and Aurora’s [7/19/99] mom) * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Sarah, I cleaned out my messages a day or two ago.  So your original is gone.  I can’t remember if Charlie is BF or on the bottle.  If he is really serious about not wanting solids, and it sure sounds like he is, why not go back to BF (if you can) or bottle for a couple days?  I think I would try offering the solids and if he really doesn’t want them, give him the other. Sometimes they have a hard time getting used to solids.  I have heard of babies before that will eat them just fine, thank you very much, for a few days then not want to touch them with a 10 foot pole.  They all eventually do come around to eating solids though.  Some just take a little longer than others. Have you taken him to the doc to rule out illness?  Not sure where you are, but there are some nasty stomach bugs going around here right now.  Plus everyone with allergies is having the normal spring flair up.  Either of those things (or half a million others) could put him off his feed for a few days.  So you might want to take him in just to make sure there is nothing wrong. I know you may not want to take a step back away from solids.  But you don’t want meal times to be so unpleasant either.  Trust me, that is just setting yourself up for a lifetime of battles over food.  Not a good trend to start. Let us know what you find out.  Good luck!!  And give him a kiss for me. :-} Sharon

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Following on from my last post, charlie has now started rejecting all solids, in > a fitful rage. Mealtimes have become utterly unbearable and we often both end up > in tears. Has anyone got any suggestions…pleeeease! > Sarah

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Don’t cry about it.  And don’t give him solids.  Our 2 year old will still only eat veggies in babyfood form. AJPDLA

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Following on from my last post, charlie has now started rejecting all solids, in > a fitful rage. Mealtimes have become utterly unbearable and we often both end up > in tears. Has anyone got any suggestions…pleeeease! > Sarah

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The bad odor could also be something like Strep throat and he could be refusing to eat because it hurts to swallow……just a thought. Jackie "Single parent…..who not only is happy about it, but proud of it…."

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Strep throat comes with fever….she didn’t mention any fever.

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>Strep throat comes with fever….she didn’t mention any fever.

not always … fever is one symptom of strep, but not always … just as a strep culture can come back positive with out the white pockets in the throat … not necessary to have ALL the usual symptoms Krystal "Life isn’t measured by how many breaths we take but by how many moments that take our breath away" Eat the "treat" in my address to e-mail me.

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Following on from my last post, charlie has now started rejecting all solids, in a fitful rage. Mealtimes have become utterly unbearable and we often both end up in tears. Has anyone got any suggestions…pleeeease! Sarah

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>>Is his breath fruity or acidic? That could mean dehydration or >diabetes. It’s a wierd smell. >jen >could a 5 month old display symptoms of diabetes?  

If they were diabetic, how could they *not*? — Do not underestimate your abilities.  That is your boss’s job. It is your job to find ways around your boss’s roadblocks.

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The other posts are right on…fruity breath may be serious.  You should ask another family member or your doctor to check his breath.   Remember as a Mom we sometimes get over zealous and smell, see, hear things that aren’t there.   I do think you should take him to a PED if only to ease your mind.  

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>Is his breath fruity or acidic? That could mean dehydration or >diabetes. It’s a wierd smell. >jen

could a 5 month old display symptoms of diabetes?   Krystal "Life isn’t measured by how many breaths we take but by how many moments that take our breath away" Eat the "treat" in my address to e-mail me.

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>>Is his breath fruity or acidic? That could mean dehydration or >diabetes. It’s a wierd smell. >jen >could a 5 month old display symptoms of diabetes? >Krystal >"Life isn’t measured by how many breaths we take but by >how many moments that take our breath away" >Eat the "treat" in my address to e-mail me.

I’m not a doctor and certainly no expert, but I would guess so – doesn’t type I diabetes show up fairly early? But it is genetic, so I would think that any diabetic parent, and their pediatrician, would be on the look out for this. I do remember our pediatrician once pointing out the fruity smell of my daughter’s breath when she was dehydrated from the flu – the doctor said it was called "acidosis" or something like that. She explained that anytime a child has the flu or is vomiting or has diahrea you should check their breath, and if it smells fruity, start giving Pedialyte because it means they are dehydrated. Also, I had a friend who developed diabetes when she was 20 – and she had strange breath right before she went into diabetic shock. Her illness came on quite suddenly over a period of a few weeks of rapid weight loss, extreme thirst, etc, and then one day she went into shock, and was comatose by the time they got her to the hospital. She’s doing fine now, but is insulin- dependent. jen * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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> My son is on solids now, but only things like veggies and baby rice, > nothing too sinister, but he seems to have pretty yukky breath at the > moment. Is there any explanation for this? Is he a bit under the > weather, or is it yet another symptom of teething or is it something > else?

Since there shouldn’t be much in the way of teeth, I’m guessing either something to do with his nose/ears or stomach. — Do not underestimate your abilities.  That is your boss’s job. It is your job to find ways around your boss’s roadblocks.

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Is his breath fruity or acidic? That could mean dehydration or diabetes. It’s a wierd smell. jen * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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>he seems to have pretty yukky breath at the > moment.

Throat infections can cause bad breath in some cases.   Something my daughter’s pediatrician suggested for sour smelling breath (from spitting up formula) was to take orange juice and apply it to the infants gums with a q-tip.  Not a good idea for bedtime, but while they are awake during the day it does work. Kimberly

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My son is on solids now, but only things like veggies and baby rice, nothing too sinister, but he seems to have pretty yukky breath at the moment. Is there any explanation for this? Is he a bit under the weather, or is it yet another symptom of teething or is it something else? thanks for any advice sarah

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Brush his teeth – or gums.  LOL Use a washcloth. AJPDLA

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My son is on solids now, but only things like veggies and baby rice, > nothing too sinister, but he seems to have pretty yukky breath at the > moment. Is there any explanation for this? Is he a bit under the > weather, or is it yet another symptom of teething or is it something > else? > thanks for any advice > sarah

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> My son is on solids now, but only things like veggies and baby rice, > nothing too sinister, but he seems to have pretty yukky breath at the > moment. Is there any explanation for this? Is he a bit under the > weather, or is it yet another symptom of teething or is it something > else? > Since there shouldn’t be much in the way of teeth, I’m guessing > either something to do with his nose/ears or stomach.

I agree with Glen.  Sinus infections often drain down the back of the throat and can give one really nasty breath.  They are often hard to detect in children too.  Mine never had any this young, but by around a year old they had each had one.  Sometimes they don’t even run a fever.  Usually you will see some green gunk in the nose.  But I have had sinus infections where I don’t get a runny nose at all for a few days.  So have both my children. Too watch to see if he is sleeping with his mouth hanging open.  I can’t remember when babies figure out that they can breath through their mouths too.  But that is a good indicator with older children that they have a very stuffy nose at night time. Also it could be something is not sitting well in his stomach.  Has he spit up at all?  What was the most recent new food you offered?  Try eliminating that for a few days and see if the dragon breath goes away.  I was always told to give one new food at a time and only that food for a few days.  That way if they have an allergy, you will know.  I guess that rule could be amended now to "if they have an allergy or get really rotten breath."  :-} Hope you figure it out. Sharon

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