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Baby will not sleep in crib – HELP!!!!!!

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Unfortunately, this would not be the best for the baby, long term.  I hope that advise would be taken from the rest of the forum and not what you are suggesting. Thank you. > I think you should let the baby cry, without taking it in your > bed. There > are medical risks for the baby, psycological risks for the couple, > and you > will fail to stop it later when you will be up to your head. Trust > me. Let > it cry for two or three nights and it will finally except the > crib, don’t > worry. > Perl

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I have five children and all of them have taken thier turns sleeping in bed with mom and dad. The youngest are two and three and they still sleep with us, uncomfortable? You betcha!!! Change it? Not for the world. They all out grow us soon enough enjoy them while they are yours. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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message to Jen. I am a Grandmother so here goes.  A crib is a little big for a baby 2 1/2 mos., try a small bassinette or a buggy that u can put by your bed and giggle it with your arm if he or she cries.  Second try swaddling the baby like a papoose indian, take a wrapping blanket and put his hands down and wrap tightly.  I think they do this in the nursery.  Of course the really first thing u do is feed the baby and make sure he is warm and not wet.  Somewhere I read that putting the baby basket on the drier and turning it on with put him to sleep pronto. Now the question of sleeping with you has two opinions.  Not at all or it is O.K. I do not think I have ever heard of a baby being rolled on or smothered by his parents. After he was with you very close for 9 months.  I did not do this with mine, but did swaddle.  Gram * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Hi My daughter has a new baby boy age 5 months. She was having the same problem and when I would take care of him during the day, he would only sleep if I was rocking him. My daughter asked the doctor about it and the doctor said to continue to love and rock him, that this is what he wanted and needed and that some babies do not learn to cry themselfs to sleep until they are around 6 to 8 months old.  So we have decided to enjoy the cuddling while it lasts and we are now able to put him down for longer periods of time.  I see nothing wrong with cuddling this 2 1/2 month old for a few months, Im sure he will grow out of it…..enjoy him! Nana * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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>>Well, I really don’t think of me as a hardhearted mother. I really care for >my 2 children. But I strongly feel that a little baby can take advantage of >you very easily. >At two months old? The child cannot *take advantage* of you.  Infants >know only their *needs.*  You cannot spoil and infant this young.

And I believe a number of studies suggest that children whose cries are responded to promptly in the first six months of life are more content and cry less in the second six months. So meeting their needs early pays off later. >On the other hand, the baby must somehow learn the rules, >for his own good and for the mother’s good. >In infancy, children must have their needs met, not learn rules, imho.

My daughter woke up about 4:30 a.m. and has not been able to go back to sleep. As I sit here with her in the bouncy seat cooing amiably and watching me type, I can’t imagine how I could possibly teach her the "rule" that she must be asleep when she just isn’t sleepy. I wish I could, because I’d love to go back to bed and sleep myself, but when I became a parent for the second time no less), I feel I abdicated my right to get my way on things. Yes, it means I’m tired. So what? 30 years from now, I’m not going to be looking back and wishing I’d got more sleep when my daughter was a baby. >As for the psycological risks, you mean that if the parents can not sleep >alone in their bed for 4 or 6 months, even if they are in agreement about >this, they will not have any problem in their relationship? I am afraid I >have to disagree with you… >Why?  Having a child will change their relationship in any case, but they >can make choices about where the relationship will go even if they have >the child sleep in their bed.

I know people who have had children sleep with them for *years*, not mere months, who appear to have happy, healthy marriages. Bed is simply not the only — or even the primary — place where the marital relationship is expressed and maintained. If it is, *then* I think the couple probably has a problem. — Be well, Barbara (Julian [7/22/97] and Aurora’s [7/19/99] mom) "The hardest thing about raising children is that they’re not stupid." — Me

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My daughter started out in a moses basket (much cosier than a crib) next to our bed. When she was under 3 months she often slept with us, usually from the early hours of the morning until I would decide to get up (easier to breastfeed) or if we were travelling away from home. She always started off the evening in the moses basket though, since she went to sleep much earlier than us. Initially I would feed her till she was asleep, then put her down but gradually I began to put her down drowsy but awake. At first I would stroke her and sing lullabies until she went to sleep but gradually phased those out too. From around 4 months we started a regular bedtime routine: bath, feed, bed and she went straight to sleep without problems. She still does. She didn’t move to her crib till around 6 months (she was small), which was a side-car to our bed at first and later moved to the end of our room. Your baby might be feeling lost in the crib. If you have access to a bassinet or similar smaller sleeping vessel, that might help. Swaddling a baby also helps make them feel more warm and secure. Try putting your baby down when he is asleep then gradually transition to putting him down when drowsy. Get bedrails for your bed if you are going to have him in bed with you. You might also try attaching the crib as a side-car to your bed (with ours we were able to remove the side rail that raises) that way baby gets accustomed to the crib while still having the feeling of being close to you. Try a different blanket or sleepsuit that might make him feel cosier. Personally I don’t think that crying it out works for babies (particularly really young ones) and it does not seem necessary unless a child has developed very bad sleep habits over a prolonged period. To avoid this – do not create habits that you are not willing to live with long term. Bringing baby into bed with you occasionally may not hurt (we did not have a problem) but sleeping with him regularly every night will make him want and expect the same each night. Good luck! –Lisa Bell SAHM/WAHM to Gabriella (14 months) #2 due 22FEB2000 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I have a 2 1/2 month old baby that dosn’t want to sleep in his crib at >bed time.  He will cry until he gets to sleep with my husband and me in >our bed.  It started from the time he came home from the hospital, we >just didn’t know how to quiet his night crying any other way.  Now that >he is older and more moble I am afraid that he may fall off the bed at >night when I’m sleeping.  I even moved the crib into our bedroom in >hopes that it would make a difference.  We even tried to wait until he >goes to sleep then putting him in his crib.  I just don’t know what to >do about this and I can’t just let him cry all night! >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Well, I really don’t think of me as a hardhearted mother. I really care for my 2 children. But I strongly feel that a little baby can take advantage of you very easily. On the other hand, the baby must somehow learn the rules, for his own good and for the mother’s good. As for the psycological risks, you mean that if the parents can not sleep alone in their bed for 4 or 6 months, even if they are in agreement about this, they will not have any problem in their relationship? I am afraid I have to disagree with you… As for my choice of pronoun ("it") I have to tell you this: 1. When I say "it" I mean the baby, without knowing if "it" is a he or a she. 2. It is very easy to USE a mistake in English just to attack someone. 3. You must not forget (but maybe you did not know this) that I am Greek, my mother-language is not English. I have learned English in school and when I post here I don’t use dictionary, I writte words as they come into my mind. Ofcorse, I did not have in mind that someone in this NG will try to take advantage of it just to attact me. You know, we, in Greece, don’t ever do that, we respect others opinions and we avoid irony as a very rude behavior. Hey, we gave Democracy to the world, right? But, anyway, as I said before, perhaps you didn’ t notice where I come from. I can say that I am very flattered you thought that English is my mother-language and "it" was not a mistake… Something good always comes up from something bad and the opposite… Perl

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My experiences pretty much mirror the previus post.  The oldest cried and just had to get over it and the latest L’il One slept with us till she fell asleep and then I’d put her in the crib.  She’d sleep all night.  I’ve read some of the posts…  Interesting… Some of them actually have kids I think…  But 2 1/2 months… Enjoy your baby, it lasts a very short time and will be gone before you know it.  Don’t get caught up in "right" or "wrong"; the only wrong way I know to raise a baby is to abuse or neglect, and you aren’t there, or you wouldn’t be here.  My youngest is now almost 4 and she still talks about when she, "Was a kid," and slept with me and Mom.  One of the things she talked about is feeling loved and safe.  To me; that’s where it’s at and the rest is Mickey Mouse. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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>Well, I really don’t think of me as a hardhearted mother. I really care for >my 2 children. But I strongly feel that a little baby can take advantage of >you very easily.

At two months old? The child cannot *take advantage* of you.  Infants know only their *needs.*  You cannot spoil and infant this young. >On the other hand, the baby must somehow learn the rules, >for his own good and for the mother’s good.

In infancy, children must have their needs met, not learn rules, imho. >As for the psycological risks, you mean that if the parents can not sleep >alone in their bed for 4 or 6 months, even if they are in agreement about >this, they will not have any problem in their relationship? I am afraid I >have to disagree with you…

Why?  Having a child will change their relationship in any case, but they can make choices about where the relationship will go even if they have the child sleep in their bed. Try reading some of the research and the parenting styles involve in the family bed with infants and toddlers. http://www.abs.net/~n3drx/fambed.htm http://www.parentingweb.com/ap/ap_index.htm http://maxpages.com/parentlinks/The_Family_Bed Dorothy

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While reading these posts something occurred to me. Whatever a parent does, they are going to defend it till death. Most parents will never admit they did something wrong. Everyone thinks they are right and the other person is wrong. When my first child was born, there was no way on earth I’d let her sleep with me. Everyone told me it was wrong and it would spoil her. And, the only persons I knew who slept with their children were my aunt, and her kids were very very wild and ran rampant never obeying anything my aunt told them. No one told me it was OK to let a child sleep with you. Now, after having a second child and sleeping with her, I see things are so much different and in ways, easier. I got more sleep and didn’t worry as much. I think of all those times I "had" to let my poor firstborn cry it out so she’d "learn" to sleep on her own and not be spoiled and I regret it so much. It was a major mistake I made, and I regret it. I feel so guilty. Sometimes, she will still climb in our bed at night, but not often at all. By the time I realized what I’d done, it was too late and she wouldn’t fall asleep with me, even when I’d bring her to my bed and lay with her. I guess the point I’m trying to make is, just because you’re a parent and you do something does not make it right. Just because other parents do it and say it’s right doesn’t make it right. I thought I was right in what I was doing, but I learned that I was very wrong to do that to my baby girl. I wish like hell I could go back and start over with her. I feel guilty about her when my second child sleeps with us. Marie http://go.to/mommydowis

>Well, I really don’t think of me as a hardhearted

mother. I really care for >my 2 children. But I strongly feel that a little baby

can take advantage of >you very easily. >At two months old? The child cannot *take advantage* of you.  Infants >know only their *needs.*  You cannot spoil and infant this young. >On the other hand, the baby must somehow learn the rules, >for his own good and for the mother’s good. >In infancy, children must have their needs met, not learn rules, imho. >As for the psycological risks, you mean that if the

parents can not sleep >alone in their bed for 4 or 6 months, even if they

are in agreement about >this, they will not have any problem in their

relationship? I am afraid I – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->have to disagree with you… >Why?  Having a child will change their relationship in any case, but they >can make choices about where the relationship will go even if they have >the child sleep in their bed. >Try reading some of the research and the parenting styles involve in >the family bed with infants and toddlers. >http://www.abs.net/~n3drx/fambed.htm >http://www.parentingweb.com/ap/ap_index.htm >http://maxpages.com/parentlinks/The_Family_Bed >Dorothy

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>I think you should let the baby cry, without taking it in your bed.

Boy, you’re hardhearted. I don’t know of *any* modern childrearing experts anywhere who recommend "crying it out" for tiny infants. >There >are medical risks for the baby, psycological risks for the couple, and you >will fail to stop it later when you will be up to your head.

The "medical risks" of co-sleeping with babies are almost entirely related to improper bedding or other obviously unsafe conditions (i.e., bed pushed up against a wall with a gap small enough for the baby to fall into, etc.). The psychological risks to the couple are non-existent provided both mother and father agree with the concept of co-sleeping. And I know of no adults who co-slept who are still sleeping with their parents. All kids grow out of co-sleeping eventually. >Trust me. Let it cry for two or three nights and it will finally except the crib, don’t >worry.

Your choice of pronoun throughout this post tells it all. Maybe if I considered my son or my daughter an "it", I’d be willing to let "it" cry. Since I think "it" is actually a human being with feelings, I respond to my baby’s cries. BTW, we don’t co-sleep. Babies don’t necessarily need to be left to cry in order to sleep in their cribs. — Be well, Barbara (Julian [7/22/97] and Aurora’s [7/19/99] mom) "The hardest thing about raising children is that they’re not stupid." — Me

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>I have a 2 1/2 month old baby that dosn’t want to sleep in his crib at >bed time.  He will cry until he gets to sleep with my husband and me in >our bed.  It started from the time he came home from the hospital, we >just didn’t know how to quiet his night crying any other way.  Now that >he is older and more moble I am afraid that he may fall off the bed at >night when I’m sleeping.  I even moved the crib into our bedroom in >hopes that it would make a difference.  We even tried to wait until he >goes to sleep then putting him in his crib.  I just don’t know what to >do about this and I can’t just let him cry all night!

The following is a quote from a post by a fellow named Richard Kerr to this newsgroup a few months ago. I’ve followed this advice nearly to the letter with my daughter and it has worked *very* well: "When your baby is tired (look for signs such as jerky hand movements, rubbing eyes, pulling at ears, irritability etc.) follow these steps: 1) Wrap your baby snugly. Put a cot sheet on your bed and fold the top six inches over. Lay your baby face up just to left of the midddle of the sheet with their shoulders laying on the fold. Pull the left hand edge of the sheet over their right arm and body, pass it between their left arm and chest and tuck it in under their body. This should secure their right arm. Pull the right hand edge of the sheet over their left arm and chest and tuck it in under the left hand side of their body. This will secure their left arm. They will not be able to raise their hands without getting them caught in the fold, this way they won’t swat themselves in the face while they’re drifting off. (Do not be concerned about wrapping your child like this, they will find it comforting. Many babies calm down just because they are wrapped. Pete was 16 weeks when we first wrapped him and he wriggled a lot at first, but we persisted with it and I’m thankful that we did. A wrapped child will sleep longer than an unwrapped one. We stopped wrapping Pete when he was nine months old, but the Tresillian staff say they wrap one year olds!) 2) Comfort your baby until they stop crying, put them in their basinette (crib) and leave the room immediately. Their room should be quiet and have the curtains pulled. The Tresillian clinic had Handel or Bach playing on a CD player, but we dispensed with this. You should lay the child on their back, or, if they don’t like being on their back, on their side with a rolled towel at their back to stop the rolling. 3) If your baby starts crying return immediately. Quiet them with a dummy (pacifier), by bouncing their basinette (you can be vigorous but not violent with the bouncing, we actually picked up the foot of end of Pete’s basinette and tapped it gently on the basinette frame), or by patting their back or bottom. Try to intervene as little as necessary and DO NOT PICK YOUR BABY UP at this point. They’re in bed and they’re going to sleep. You need to have this firmly in your mind. Have faith, your child will be comforted by the motion. When they stop crying leave the room immediately. Do NOT wait until they are asleep, you are not trying to put them to sleep, you are calming them so that they will lie quietly until they go to sleep without help. 4) If your baby starts crying again wait three minutes before returning and comforting them as in step 3. Repeat these last two steps for a maximum of twenty minutes. At this point break the cycle by, say, giving them some water or taking them out for a walk before starting again. Some observations: We didn’t believe this would work. Pete was a screamer and he wouldn’t calm down if he wasn’t held. It _did_ work. The Tresillian staff took the first two nights, but after that it never took more than three cycles to get Pete to sleep. After the first week he almost always went to sleep without any assistance. He still occasionally wakes during the night but we _never_ have to do any more than lie him down and tuck him in now. As a child gets older you can leave them for longer and longer in step four. The Tresillian staff said that you could leave a six month old for 15 minutes, but we never had the strength to leave Pete for more than about 10. We’ve helped our friends with this and never left it longer than about 7 minutes, so it doesn’t seem to matter that much. This might seem like a very strict routine, but it was a life-saver for us. We stuck to it like glue for months before the horror of having a screamer had faded from our minds. We now have a little boy who will sleep anywhere anytime and who enjoys being put to bed (I’m not kidding, he loves it, baby sitters can’t believe it). I think the truth is that sticking to a routine makes it easier for the baby, an irregular pattern just makes things harder. I don’t think I could leave a 3 month old to cry it out, but you don’t have to. Just calm them and leave _before_they_are_asleep_ so they will learn to go to sleep by themselves. Isn’t that what you want?’ Try it out and see how it goes. — Be well, Barbara (Julian [7/22/97] and Aurora’s [7/19/99] mom) "The hardest thing about raising children is that they’re not stupid." — Me

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Try a massage for your baby about an hour before bedtime.  This can sometimes help. Good luck Carla www.infantmassage.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a 2 1/2 month old baby that dosn’t want to sleep in his crib at > bed time.  He will cry until he gets to sleep with my husband and me in > our bed.  It started from the time he came home from the hospital, we > just didn’t know how to quiet his night crying any other way.  Now that > he is older and more moble I am afraid that he may fall off the bed at > night when I’m sleeping.  I even moved the crib into our bedroom in > hopes that it would make a difference.  We even tried to wait until he > goes to sleep then putting him in his crib.  I just don’t know what to > do about this and I can’t just let him cry all night! > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Mine also!!!  My son absolutely hated being on his back- he kept startling himself awake.   I finally gave up listening to the recommedations and listened to him.    With my daughter I tried propping her on her side (as a compromise) but even in one of those wedge thingies she managed to get onto her stomach.  I got the message. Marion—Tampamom to Louis(6) and Erica(2) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Everyone has given you good advice. >          <snip> > Keep going in and >rubbing his back. >          <snip> >Yes I keep saying back. Although the recommedation is "on their backs", none >of my kids could sleep that way. So look at how he’s sleeping when he’s with >you, vs in the crib. >ChrisOD >Mom-to-Mom >http://www.cluein.com/cluein/public_summary.html?cid=R1556 >A messageboard run by a Mom, for other Moms all about being Moms

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I think you should let the baby cry, without taking it in your bed. There are medical risks for the baby, psycological risks for the couple, and you will fail to stop it later when you will be up to your head. Trust me. Let it cry for two or three nights and it will finally except the crib, don’t worry. Perl

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Well if you don’t mind him sleeping with you and are just worried about him falling you could attach the crib to your bed frame and then remove the side against your bed.  That way baby is in a crib with sides etc. and still beside you.  Some also just put their mattress on the floor so falling out isn’t dangerous.  If you prefer not to sleep with him, take some comfort in the fact that (in my case anyway) at around 31/2 – 4 months I was able to start laying him down and he would stay asleep.  Before that he always woke up when I laid him down.    I really like sleeping with my baby but he isn’t very wiggly so it is easy.  I’m nursing so I get more sleep with him in bed. Good Luck – Nikki – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I have a 2 1/2 month old baby that dosn’t want to sleep in his crib at >bed time.  He will cry until he gets to sleep with my husband and me in >our bed.  It started from the time he came home from the hospital, we >just didn’t know how to quiet his night crying any other way.  Now that >he is older and more moble I am afraid that he may fall off the bed at >night when I’m sleeping.  I even moved the crib into our bedroom in >hopes that it would make a difference.  We even tried to wait until he >goes to sleep then putting him in his crib.  I just don’t know what to >do about this and I can’t just let him cry all night! >* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * >The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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>I agree with the bassinet idea…did it w/ both my kids. Neither one went >into the crib until about 4 mos.  You might also try leaving some garments >(nighties, pillowcases etc) with your  scent on them in the crib w/ the >baby.  The scent may reassure the baby during the night.

The bassinet worked out very well for us also (after learning the hard way with our first daughter). We never believed in leaving a baby to cry for more than a minute or two, and with the bassinet next to our bed, we could easily comfort our daughter without having her sleep in our bed. Paula

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Everyone has given you good advice. What happens when you put him in after he’s asleep? Does he wake up right away? I can remember leaning over the crib rubbing a back and talking very softly.  We also had music boxes and those music boxes that out a picture on the ceiling and played a lullaby. Try putting flannel sheets on teh crib, they are warmer that cotton. Or maybe have him in a blanket sleeper, that is also warmer. It is a tough cycle to break, and at 2 1/2 months he’s not "mainpulating" you, so no, don’t let him cry all night, but 5 minutes won’t hurt him (although it can be hard on you <G> I use to set a timer and and watch it tick by). If 5 minutes is too long (for you) start with 2. Keep going in and rubbing his back. Yes I keep saying back. Although the recommedation is "on their backs", none of my kids could sleep that way. So look at how he’s sleeping when he’s with you, vs in the crib. At somepoint you’ll have to break this habit, and the longer you wait the harder it will be. Try now, in small steps and plan to spend many hours going in and out of his room. ChrisOD Mom-to-Mom http://www.cluein.com/cluein/public_summary.html?cid=R1556 A messageboard run by a Mom, for other Moms all about being Moms

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Hi, I sympathize with your situation.  I have 3 kids and none of them slept in a crib until they were 4 months old.  I kept them in my room in a cradle right next to my bed.  They also liked to be swaddled in a light blanket.  I have never believed in letting an infant cry it out even for a few minutes, that just sends a message that his needs will not be met. My youngest is almost 6 months old and has slept in the cradle and in my bed and is now just starting to sleep in the crib. I found with her that as I met her need to be close to me she has become more able to sleep in her crib. I really  think it is expecting alot of a tiny baby who has spent 9 months inside us to after birth be separated in a big crib often in a separate room.  I think that is what he is trying to tell you.  Listen to him and over time he will be better able to be separate from you.  You cannot spoil him and he is not able to manipulate you.  Just  enjoy him because he will grow so fast. Good luck Cathy mom to Will, Chris, & Erin

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a 2 1/2 month old baby that dosn’t want to sleep in his crib at > bed time.  He will cry until he gets to sleep with my husband and me in > our bed.  It started from the time he came home from the hospital, we > just didn’t know how to quiet his night crying any other way.  Now that > he is older and more moble I am afraid that he may fall off the bed at > night when I’m sleeping.  I even moved the crib into our bedroom in > hopes that it would make a difference.  We even tried to wait until he > goes to sleep then putting him in his crib.  I just don’t know what to > do about this and I can’t just let him cry all night! > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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I agree with the bassinet idea…did it w/ both my kids. Neither one went into the crib until about 4 mos.  You might also try leaving some garments (nighties, pillowcases etc) with your  scent on them in the crib w/ the baby.  The scent may reassure the baby during the night. Marion—–Tampamom to Louis(6) and Erica(2)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Jen,                                                             I had some of >same problems with Alex.  My husband and I would rock him to sleep in a rocking >chair, then put him in his bed, but he wasn’t in a crib until he was 3 1/2 mo >old.  Until then he slept in a bassinet, which is smaller and feels cozier. A >crib is so big to a new baby.  I do agree that your baby is probably too young >to "cry it out".  Alex didn’t get good at crying it out until he was almost 13 >mo old (he would cry until he vomited, then he’d cry some more:9( ).  Some >babies have a temperment that doesn’t allow for "crying it out", not til they >are older so they can begin to understand what is happening. >Patience is the key, and unfortunately they don’t sell that at WalMart…..best >of luck to you and your little one….. >Melissa, mommy to Alex (5-5-98)

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Jen,                                                             I had some of same problems with Alex.  My husband and I would rock him to sleep in a rocking chair, then put him in his bed, but he wasn’t in a crib until he was 3 1/2 mo old.  Until then he slept in a bassinet, which is smaller and feels cozier.  A crib is so big to a new baby.  I do agree that your baby is probably too young to "cry it out".  Alex didn’t get good at crying it out until he was almost 13 mo old (he would cry until he vomited, then he’d cry some more:9( ).  Some babies have a temperment that doesn’t allow for "crying it out", not til they are older so they can begin to understand what is happening.   Patience is the key, and unfortunately they don’t sell that at WalMart…..best of luck to you and your little one….. Melissa, mommy to Alex (5-5-98)

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Jen, If you don’t mind sleeping with him at this stage, I don’t see what the problem is.  All experts agree that infants under 3 months shouldn’t be left to cry it out.  After 3 months they tend to disagree, but that is a different thread.  When he is a little bit older you can come back and ask us our advice. I never slept with my babies.  I wanted to but they wiggled to much right from the start and none of us got any sleep. When they were that little and would wake upon putting them into their crib, I changed tactics just a little.  First, I rocked them or nursed them to sleep with their blanket between me and them.  That way when I laid them down the blanket was still warm and they weren’t being placed on a cold bed. I also patted their bottoms to get them to sleep.  So, when I put them in their crib I could continue patting their bottoms. If those things didn’t work, I would lay them in their bed and still cradle them in my arms until they were back to sleep.  I would let go slowly, if they started to move I would hold on again.  This is killer on the back, but very effective in tricking them into believing they are being held. Anyway, I hope these suggestions help. Heidi — Would you like a home-based business?  Ask me what is working for me and my family.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a 2 1/2 month old baby that dosn’t want to sleep in his crib at > bed time.  He will cry until he gets to sleep with my husband and me in > our bed.  It started from the time he came home from the hospital, we > just didn’t know how to quiet his night crying any other way.  Now that > he is older and more moble I am afraid that he may fall off the bed at > night when I’m sleeping.  I even moved the crib into our bedroom in > hopes that it would make a difference.  We even tried to wait until he > goes to sleep then putting him in his crib.  I just don’t know what to > do about this and I can’t just let him cry all night! > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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I have a 2 1/2 month old baby that dosn’t want to sleep in his crib at bed time.  He will cry until he gets to sleep with my husband and me in our bed.  It started from the time he came home from the hospital, we just didn’t know how to quiet his night crying any other way.  Now that he is older and more moble I am afraid that he may fall off the bed at night when I’m sleeping.  I even moved the crib into our bedroom in hopes that it would make a difference.  We even tried to wait until he goes to sleep then putting him in his crib.  I just don’t know what to do about this and I can’t just let him cry all night! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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:I have a 2 1/2 month old baby that dosn’t want to sleep in his crib at :bed time.  He will cry until he gets to sleep with my husband and me in :o ur bed.  It started from the time he came home from the hospital, we :just didn’t know how to quiet his night crying any other way.  Now that :he is older and more moble I am afraid that he may fall off the bed at :night when I’m sleeping.  I even moved the crib into our bedroom in :hopes that it would make a difference.  We even tried to wait until he :goes to sleep then putting him in his crib.  I just don’t know what to :do about this and I can’t just let him cry all night! : : : : :* Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * :The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free! : Could it be he doesn’t want to sleep in his crib when he knows you will let him sleep with you? The problem is not the child. Your last sentence describes your problem. Steve L

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Gotta second what Steve said.  If you let your child sleep with you once (I can only imagine how familiar it feels being that our children sleep inside our bodies for 9 months – how good it must feel to sleep next to us rather than in a crib) — anyhow, if you let your child sleep with you once, it’s gonna be a hard cycle to break.  Again, I think that’s because a child has spent 9 months sleeping inside a human body.  If I was a newborn I’d prefer sleeping next to my mom rather than in a crib.  If you don’t want it to be a problem, it’s something you should try not to do at all.   I wouldn’t become angry with my child for crying in the crib.  Have you tried putting the crib in your bedroom? Denise http://www.chistell.com

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