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This may sound really crazy, but I use "Bag Balm".  It is just amazing how good this stuff works for diaper rash.  My son’s bottom gets so bad it will bleed when he’s teething and this stuff works so well that you can see the difference over night!  I told my Pediatrician about it and he said if it works..use it.  If anyone doesn’t know what bag balm is… its an antiseptic used for softening cow udders.  Try it, you’ll be amazed! Karen

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> I agree with some of the others… > Tell her to see the Dr. > My son had a fungal rash that he gave me a Rx for and it cleared it up > when the creams would not. > I always figure if I’m that unsure as to what I’m dealing with then > it’s time for a trip to the doctors! :}

When my daughter got her first diaper rash I started putting some diaper rash ointment on the rash…well, the rash just kept getting worse..it was bright red and was spreading.  I washed her with warm soapy water at every diaper change and used the ointment.  Finally I called her doctor and he had me bring her in in.  I have to say that the rah was very bad and I was very upset because being a first-time mom I thought I was doing something very wrong!  But the doc gave me an ointment called Lanolin Hydrous…which you can also buy over the counter at your local drug store.  He told me to continue washing with the warm soapy water, but to quit using the diaper rash ointment (he said this can sometimes cause reactions on some babies by actually making things worse instead of better becase some babies have super sensitive skin) and to try the Lanolin Hydrous.  I could see a change in the rash by the next day.  It worked wonders on Rebecca!  So now everytime I see her starting to red I immediatly put it on her.  It is also good to put on even when they are not red yet…but at times when you know they may be in a wet diaper for long periods of time….like bedtime. So, I agree…if the ointment she is using is not working and the rash is getting worse…call your doctor.  That’s what they are there for…to answer those questions that we have. Deb…mommy to Rebecca (11 months)

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I agree with some of the others… Tell her to see the Dr. My son had a fungal rash that he gave me a Rx for and it cleared it up when the creams would not. I always figure if I’m that unsure as to what I’m dealing with then it’s time for a trip to the doctors! :}

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->My co-worker’s six month old daughter has diaper rash.  She has been >using an ointment, but the rash seems to be getting worse, not better. >However, it doesn’t seem to bother the baby.  Other than the usual >things:  changing diapers frequently, keeping the area clean, using >ointment, and trying to provide times when the baby can go without a >diaper to "air out" the area, what have you found to be helpful?  What >brand of ointment works the best?  How long does it take to clear up? >I promised her I would bring her your ideas since she is not yet >on-line.  (It has been a long-time since my daughters had diaper rash >– their usual complaint now is PMS!) >Kathleen

When you stated that the rash seemed to be getting worse I suspect it maybe the ointment.  The reason I state this is that the zinc oxide found in a lot of over the counter ointments can react to certain skins,  such as oxide as in oxidize like in burn. What I have found is the cleaning of the diaper area with warm water and baby soap, plenty of diaper free time, and diaper changes as soon as the first sign of wetnes.  Also the use of cloth diaper rather than disposables. Cloth allows for better air cirulation, easier to detect wet or dirty diapers. They are just as easy to use as a disposable if a diaper wrap is used.  Once the rash has cleared up, the use of vaseline to protect the skin is a great help.  The other benifit of using vaseline , it sure makes cleaning up  poopy  diapers a lot easier.  One other thing avoid the use of baby wipes, ever read the ingrediants of those things.

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> >My co-worker’s six month old daughter has diaper rash.  She has been >using an ointment, but the rash seems to be getting worse, not better. >  <snip>

The only time my son had a diaper rash was before I changed diaper brands.  Now I use one called Tushies, which are cotton inside and chemical free.  Most diapers have dioxin in them.  For my sons rash, I quit using any kind of wipes, and wiped him off with a baby washcloth and warm water, then let him air dry as much as possible until the rash was gone.  Now I use Tushies wipes mostly, but still let him air dry.     The ointment could be too strong for the baby’s tender bottom.  When I use ointments, I rotate several kinds.  There are two that I like, one is A&D ointment, and the other is a natural oil combination I get at the health food store. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Is she sure it’s a diaper rash and not a yeast infection?  It wouldn’t hurt > to > have your friend take her daughter to the doctor to have it diagnosed.

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Maybe it is a yeast infection (0r thrush).  They should check with a doctor to determine what it is.  It looks a lot like diaper rash, but has bumps in it.   Then s/he can give them a perscirption for Nystatin Creme or the like.  It really won’t get better on its own very well. My daughter got this a lot as an infant and still gets it on occasion (now 15 months old.)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >My co-worker’s six month old daughter has diaper rash.  She has been >using an ointment, but the rash seems to be getting worse, not better. >However, it doesn’t seem to bother the baby.  Other than the usual >things:  changing diapers frequently, keeping the area clean, using >ointment, and trying to provide times when the baby can go without a >diaper to "air out" the area, what have you found to be helpful?  What >brand of ointment works the best?  How long does it take to clear up? >I promised her I would bring her your ideas since she is not yet >on-line.  (It has been a long-time since my daughters had diaper rash >– their usual complaint now is PMS!) >Margaret

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> While at the pediatrition for an un-related matter, I asked about the > diaper rash, showed the "evidence"  and he immediately spouted off some > name (sorry, I lost it while pulling the 6 & 8 year old off the scale (!) > ) and explained that it was a fungal type of thing. ( iknow that this is > not very specific, and usually I really DO listen to the Dr., but the 6 & > 8 year old were NOT cooperating)

I believe you are referring to a "yeast" rash.  My daughter had it really bad around 2-4 weeks, and as the previous poster stated, nothing helped. I read a bit in a couple of books so I could describe it better to the doctor, and he recognized it over the phone.  The prescription he gave me was *Nystatin* ointment, and the rash vanished practically overnight. Pam

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>My co-worker’s six month old daughter has diaper rash.  She has been >using an ointment, but the rash seems to be getting worse, not better. >However, it doesn’t seem to bother the baby.  Other than the usual >things:  changing diapers frequently, keeping the area clean, using >ointment, and trying to provide times when the baby can go without a >diaper to "air out" the area, what have you found to be helpful?  What >brand of ointment works the best?  How long does it take to clear up?

It depends on what is causing the diaper rash.  If it is actually a yeast infection (very common) a trip to the doctor is in order.  You can’t get rid of a yeast infection with diaper rash creams.  If the baby has been introduced to yogurt, feed the baby yogurt that has live cultures. If the diaper rash is from frequent stools, one thing our ped. recommended was to pour an antiacid on the bottom after every diaper change, it will cut down the acidity of the stool, and allow the area to heal.  W  W  W –Tami

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>My co-worker’s six month old daughter has diaper rash.  She has been >using an ointment, but the rash seems to be getting worse, not better. >However, it doesn’t seem to bother the baby.  Other than the usual >things:  changing diapers frequently, keeping the area clean, using >ointment, and trying to provide times when the baby can go without a >diaper to "air out" the area, what have you found to be helpful?  What >brand of ointment works the best?  How long does it take to clear up? >I promised her I would bring her your ideas since she is not yet >on-line.  (It has been a long-time since my daughters had diaper rash >– their usual complaint now is PMS!)

Hi My 2 year old is presently having the same problem–at first I thought it was an alergic reaction to her favorite:  Chocomi–Peese!!! (Chocolate milk please) While at the pediatrition for an un-related matter, I asked about the diaper rash, showed the "evidence"  and he immediately spouted off some name (sorry, I lost it while pulling the 6 & 8 year old off the scale (!) ) and explained that it was a fungal type of thing. ( iknow that this is not very specific, and usually I really DO listen to the Dr., but the 6 & 8 year old were NOT cooperating) Anyway, he gave me a Rx and in one it has cleared up tremendously!! Have the Dr. check it out! Kathleen

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My co-worker’s six month old daughter has diaper rash.  She has been using an ointment, but the rash seems to be getting worse, not better. However, it doesn’t seem to bother the baby.  Other than the usual things:  changing diapers frequently, keeping the area clean, using ointment, and trying to provide times when the baby can go without a diaper to "air out" the area, what have you found to be helpful?  What brand of ointment works the best?  How long does it take to clear up? I promised her I would bring her your ideas since she is not yet on-line.  (It has been a long-time since my daughters had diaper rash — their usual complaint now is PMS!) Margaret

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We had terrible trouble with our daughter’s "nappy rash" as we call it here in New Zealand.  We tried everything and found that using creams for "thrush" helped (do you call it thrush in the US? I think the bug is Candida). One brand name here in NZ is "Daktarin".  We alternated this with another thrush ointment, and found they both helped.  In fact, they were the only thing that helped. We were recommended by doctors and Plunket (a free Government agency that we in NZ visit occasionally to have our children’s development checked) to use "cloth nappies" rather than "disposable nappies".  However, we found that cloth nappies were far worse that disposables for nappy rash, so I would recommend using disposables (although they are not environmentally friendly).  Before I had a baby I swore I would never use disposables!!  Funny how I’ve changed my mind since then!   (Does anyone in the US use cloth nappies?, sorry diapers! – I would be interested to know if there is an "environmental" debate there or whether everyone just uses disposables regardless) — Tricia Jennings – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My co-worker’s six month old daughter has diaper rash.  She has been > using an ointment, but the rash seems to be getting worse, not better. > However, it doesn’t seem to bother the baby.  Other than the usual > things:  changing diapers frequently, keeping the area clean, using > ointment, and trying to provide times when the baby can go without a > diaper to "air out" the area, what have you found to be helpful?  What > brand of ointment works the best?  How long does it take to clear up? > I promised her I would bring her your ideas since she is not yet > on-line.  (It has been a long-time since my daughters had diaper rash > — their usual complaint now is PMS!) > Margaret

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>My co-worker’s six month old daughter has diaper rash.  She has been >using an ointment, but the rash seems to be getting worse, not better.

 <snip> Is she sure it’s a diaper rash and not a yeast infection?  It wouldn’t hurt to have your friend take her daughter to the doctor to have it diagnosed.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> (Deborahtay) writes: >>We have always had the rule that at "bedtime" the kids to into their >rooms. >>Stories, quiet talk, last trip to the bathroom. If they are not tired, >they >>may play QUIETLY in their rooms. They may NOT leave their rooms and may >NOT >>come to see us. This rules goes into affect as soon as they move out of >>cribs. > I used this rule with my daughter and she follows it.  I now am trying it > with my son but he comes out anyway.  How do you get your child to follow > the rule without having battles every night? > Mary > P.S.  As to the followup from someone else.  The kids are not idiots and > they know if something is wrong they are allowed to come out – such as a > fire or being sick.

Hi Mary – I recognize that quote! It’s mine! Nice to know SOMEONE agrees with me! How old is your son? What did you do with your daughter to make her stay in her room? We use to put a safety gate across their door. The physical barrier was needed until they were old enough to realize that we weren’t kidding. We also had rewards available in the morning IF they obeyed at night. I remember putting a small bowl of cheerios out for them as an AM treat. Often the BIGGEST treat was for them to find the gate down so they could go out to the living room and watch a movie. Chris (mother to Matt, Tim and Greg and ????)

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>> I have a 4 year old son that is a definite night person. I have tried > everything under the sun to have him asleep by 9:30 p.m.. He usually > falls asleep closer to 10:30 p.m. or later.

Well, the good thing about this is that by the end of the month he’ll probably be going to sleep around 9:30 if you live in an area where the clocks will fall back. Deborah, breastfeeding mother who asks, "Why buy the cow’s when you can give the milk for free?"

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(Deborahtay) writes: >We have always had the rule that at "bedtime" the kids to into their >rooms. >Stories, quiet talk, last trip to the bathroom. If they are not tired, >they >may play QUIETLY in their rooms. They may NOT leave their rooms and may >NOT >come to see us. This rules goes into affect as soon as they move out of >cribs.

I used this rule with my daughter and she follows it.  I now am trying it with my son but he comes out anyway.  How do you get your child to follow the rule without having battles every night? Mary P.S.  As to the followup from someone else.  The kids are not idiots and they know if something is wrong they are allowed to come out – such as a fire or being sick.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hi Heather Lynn, >We have always had the rule that at "bedtime" the kids to into their rooms. >Stories, quiet talk, last trip to the bathroom. If they are not tired, they >may play QUIETLY in their rooms. They may NOT leave their rooms and may NOT >come to see us. This rules goes into affect as soon as they move out of >cribs. > It should work with a 4 yr old. Our kids are (now) 8, 7 and 5 1/2. >Chris

I certainly hope you never have a fire in your house during the night, or a kid who is puking all over the place. Are your rules really as rigid as you are making them sound? Deborah, breastfeeding mother who asks, "Why buy the cow’s when you can give the milk for free?"

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi Heather Lynn, >We have always had the rule that at "bedtime" the kids to into their > rooms. >Stories, quiet talk, last trip to the bathroom. If they are not tired, > they >may play QUIETLY in their rooms. They may NOT leave their rooms and may > NOT >come to see us. This rules goes into affect as soon as they move out of >cribs. > It should work with a 4 yr old. Our kids are (now) 8, 7 and 5 1/2. >Chris > I certainly hope you never have a fire in your house during the night, or > a kid who is puking all over the place. Are your rules really as rigid as > you are making them sound?

Sick or emergencies or blood flowing are execptions.<g> What we don’t want are the "I can’t sleep", "I need a drink fo water" etc etc. They have learned (very quickly) what are legitimate reasons to leave their rooms. (The next "rule" is no one may sleep in our bed. However the floor is open territory.) Once they’ve been asleep, they can come and get us for bad dreams, illness, etc etc. But WE (Mom & Dad) need OUR time. Time for just US. THis time is normally from 8PM on. The kids seem to understand this. Chris

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> I have a 4 year old son that is a definite night person. I have tried > everything under the sun to have him asleep by 9:30 p.m.. He usually > falls asleep closer to 10:30 p.m. or later. He wakes early, runs with > energy as if there’s no tomorrow. I have tried warm milk before > bedtime, Running him sensless throughout the day, constant playing, > etc. He takes no naps (right no that would be my worst nightmare to > have him fall asleep during the day!) I am out of ideas, anyone > else?…. > Thanks! > Heather Lynn

Hi Heather Lynn, We have always had the rule that at "bedtime" the kids to into their rooms. Stories, quiet talk, last trip to the bathroom. If they are not tired, they may play QUIETLY in their rooms. They may NOT leave their rooms and may NOT come to see us. This rules goes into affect as soon as they move out of cribs.  It should work with a 4 yr old. Our kids are (now) 8, 7 and 5 1/2. Chris

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Organization: Internet Company of New Zealand > NNTP-Posting-Host: hilaryj.internet.co.nz > X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.14 > Lines: 37 >>Hi all, >>I have a 4 year old son that is a definite night person. I have tried >>everything under the sun to have him asleep by 9:30 p.m.. He usually >>falls asleep closer to 10:30 p.m. or later. He wakes early, runs with >>energy as if there’s no tomorrow. I have tried warm milk before >>bedtime, Running him sensless throughout the day, constant playing, >>etc. He takes no naps (right no that would be my worst nightmare to >>have him fall asleep during the day!) I am out of ideas, anyone >>else?…. >>Thanks! >>Heather Lynn > There are many natural / homeopathic remedies out there which will help > your son sleep without a doubt.  I would heartily recommend that you seek > advice from a good homoeopath and I am sure she/he will be able to give > you a remedy to help your son.  Anther thing which might help is to have a > really tight bedtime ritual, make it a special and enjoyable time.  Maybe > have a ritualistic bedtime candle-blowing ceremony, a special box of > things to look through, to be discoved at bedtime,.. with special books, > maybe a special bit of relaxing music to listen to, make it a time to look > forward to but always relaxing.  Lastly, someone recently gave me a bach > flowers remedy which was to put in the bath,… valerian.  She told me it > works wonders in terms of making kids feel sleepy.  I havn;t tried it yet, > but I’m lucky with my son so far! > Good luck! > Hilary, mother of 2.75 yr old

When I was learning to go to bed, my mom had "talk about" time _after_ I was in bed and ready to go to sleep. Then I would ask her to "talk about…lizards or flamingos, or math, or God, or….." I could only pick one each night, unless it was special (birthday, I was sick, etc.). It made me feel special to know that mom would take time to talk to just me without anyone else around. It also was a good way to finish calming me down for the night. Also:question: are you rocking him to sleep, or helping him to go to sleep still? If so, he may not _know_ how to put himself to sleep unless he’s dead tired. good luck sonja

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I have a definate bedtime.  He has to go to bed whether he is tired or not.  If he isn’t, he can lay there and read until he is.  But he is always in bed by 8. period.  I was suprised by how quickly he actually got tired just lying in bed. Michele

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Hi all, I have a 4 year old son that is a definite night person. I have tried everything under the sun to have him asleep by 9:30 p.m.. He usually falls asleep closer to 10:30 p.m. or later. He wakes early, runs with energy as if there’s no tomorrow. I have tried warm milk before bedtime, Running him sensless throughout the day, constant playing, etc. He takes no naps (right no that would be my worst nightmare to have him fall asleep during the day!) I am out of ideas, anyone else?…. Thanks! Heather Lynn         My daughter simply did not believe in sleep.  She didn’t cry and would amuse herself, but simply didn’t sleep.  My husband and I ended up sleeping in shifts so we each could get some sleep.  She had thorough physicals and was pronounced extremely healthy (a fact we did not dispute) but also extremely energetic. They tried giving her meds at first because they were concerned – NOTHING worked.  She could tolerate these as if they were water, so she quickly came off of these.  She could eat her weight in food daily and couldn’t gain weight (this was the only concern of her pediatrician).  Even now, at age 14  1/2, she requires very little sleep – goes to bed at about 11:30 or midnight and gets up at 5:30 (BEFORE her alarm)!!!  Functions VERY well in school – all A’s at a challenging prep school.  She just doesn’t need sleep, although she did not "grow out of it" as her pediatrician said she would.  Thank God her brother who arrived 2  1/2 years later slept through the night right from the start.         If your child is happy and healthy, but doesn’t require much sleep ACCEPT IT!! Find ways to cope, as we did.  I know this is hard, but so what??  These kids are often the ones who do great things (look at Edison)! Sharon

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi all, >I have a 4 year old son that is a definite night person. I have tried >everything under the sun to have him asleep by 9:30 p.m.. He usually >falls asleep closer to 10:30 p.m. or later. He wakes early, runs with >energy as if there’s no tomorrow. I have tried warm milk before >bedtime, Running him sensless throughout the day, constant playing, >etc. He takes no naps (right no that would be my worst nightmare to >have him fall asleep during the day!) I am out of ideas, anyone >else?…. >Thanks! >Heather Lynn

There are many natural / homeopathic remedies out there which will help your son sleep without a doubt.  I would heartily recommend that you seek advice from a good homoeopath and I am sure she/he will be able to give you a remedy to help your son.  Anther thing which might help is to have a really tight bedtime ritual, make it a special and enjoyable time.  Maybe have a ritualistic bedtime candle-blowing ceremony, a special box of things to look through, to be discoved at bedtime,.. with special books, maybe a special bit of relaxing music to listen to, make it a time to look forward to but always relaxing.  Lastly, someone recently gave me a bach flowers remedy which was to put in the bath,… valerian.  She told me it works wonders in terms of making kids feel sleepy.  I havn;t tried it yet, but I’m lucky with my son so far! Good luck! Hilary, mother of 2.75 yr old

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Been there, done that. My oldest is a night person par excellance. We can have her in her bedroom by 7:30 to 8:30 and at midnight she may still be awake with no stimulation! I’ve learned to live with it, as the rest of the time she seems to be fine. No behavior problems etc. And I always make sure she’s getting enough physical activity and NO caffeine (even chocolate), which helps. Good luck! Marla Saunders Editor, Homelight Homelight is a hardcopy newsletter dedicated to Success at Home from a Biblical Perspective "Formula for Success: Know what you are doing. Love what you are doing. And believe in what you are doing." — Cavett Robert

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Hi all, I have a 4 year old son that is a definite night person. I have tried everything under the sun to have him asleep by 9:30 p.m.. He usually falls asleep closer to 10:30 p.m. or later. He wakes early, runs with energy as if there’s no tomorrow. I have tried warm milk before bedtime, Running him sensless throughout the day, constant playing, etc. He takes no naps (right no that would be my worst nightmare to have him fall asleep during the day!) I am out of ideas, anyone else?…. Thanks! Heather Lynn

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>Hi all, >I have a 4 year old son that is a definite night person. I have tried >everything under the sun to have him asleep by 9:30 p.m.. He usually >falls asleep closer to 10:30 p.m. or later. He wakes early, runs with >energy as if there’s no tomorrow. I have tried warm milk before >bedtime, Running him sensless throughout the day, constant playing, >etc. He takes no naps (right no that would be my worst nightmare to >have him fall asleep during the day!) I am out of ideas, anyone >else?…. >Thanks! >Heather Lynn

        He may need less sleep.  This was long a problem with my daughter.  We started planning for one hour less of sleep, even waking her in the morning, and it helped a lot.  She needs about 9 hours of sleep, versus the recommended 10 for kids of her age.  Bedtime is a breeze now (comparatively!).  Her daytime behavior is good, too – no fussiness or anything, except a little at first when we woke her a little earlier than usual.         I found that the struggle to get her to bed earlier than she needed was actually pushing bedtime way beyond even what she needed, frequently.   That happens much less now.

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>I wish someone could tell me the secret to getting kids to bed, their bed, >without fuss!! My son used to tell me that it was time for ‘nite nite’ and >get into bed. Then all of a sudden, he acted as though he were scared to >death of his bed?  This was about a month ago, and he still ends up in my >bed most of the time.  I hope he eventually ‘grows out of it’ but who knows >how long that will take.  When I try and get him to sleep in his bed, he >will lay there until he realizes I am not, and come wandering out to find >me.  If I close the door in hopes that he will give up and go to bed, he >takes his pillow and blankie and sits behind his door and yells.  This can >go on for quite a while, even after repeatedly putting him to bed, telling >storeys and tucking ins..  So it is just easier to compromise on the bed >time and let him sleep with me. Any advise would be good…

Between the age of 2 1/2 and 3 my son was doing the same thing. Bedtime was an absolute nightmare every night.  Some things that worked for us:   –  Try changing the atmosphere in his room (changing location of bed and furniture, taking down figurines on walls, changing colour of room).  Our son was having nightmares about "The Lion King" which was the theme of his room, and for  obvious reasons was scared to go to bed. –  Another thing that seemed to calm him at nightime was to talk about the exciting things that we were going to do the next day, or that he would be doing in daycare the next day, so he would go to bed with happy thoughts. –  Another thing that is working now is to put all of his stuffed animals around him in his bed, and tell him that they are all his friends and that his friends want to be cuddled and hugged while they fall asleep. –  We put a baby gate up at his door, the one that swings open.  This confines him to his room, but isn’t as scary as a closed door might be. WORKED FOR US!

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I wish someone could tell me the secret to getting kids to bed, their bed, without fuss!! My son used to tell me that it was time for ‘nite nite’ and get into bed. Then all of a sudden, he acted as though he were scared to death of his bed?  This was about a month ago, and he still ends up in my bed most of the time.  I hope he eventually ‘grows out of it’ but who knows how long that will take.  When I try and get him to sleep in his bed, he will lay there until he realizes I am not, and come wandering out to find me.  If I close the door in hopes that he will give up and go to bed, he takes his pillow and blankie and sits behind his door and yells.  This can go on for quite a while, even after repeatedly putting him to bed, telling storeys and tucking ins..  So it is just easier to compromise on the bed time and let him sleep with me. Any advise would be good…

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welp folks, Its late, nuttin hapening so I’m off to bed…hehehhe……Just in case someone cares where I am…–Yeah right….. Night, night Tina =)

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Bedtime for me too.  Goodnight. Staci

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Sweet dreams – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > welp folks, Its late, nuttin hapening so I’m off to bed…hehehhe……Just > in case someone cares where I am…–Yeah right….. > Night, night > Tina =)

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