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>arrrrggggghhhh!  loreena mckinnet doesn’t do irish pieces?  but, but, but… >she did one of turlough o’carolan’s (whose music i am quite fond of).  i >just like her voice mainly, but thought she did that one piece well.  can’t >remember which piece it was now.  brain fog.  lee, in my book, irish music >runs the gamut from soft and sultry to bring the house down brash, which i >love about it—something for each of my moods<smile>.  have i been >delusional all these years?

Turlough O’Carolan was a baroque-era composer.  Though he was from Ireland, his compositions have a very italian sound to them.  In fact, during his lifetime, one of the criticisms most often heard was that he sounded "too italian."  He also wasn’t a very good harpist, by all reports. ;} Lorena McKennit and Enya do commericial product.  The older style of singing is generally unaccompanied and…well, the style is just different.  But there are definitely no synthesizers or new age gimmicks to it.  After listening to hours of field recordings of the people that McKennit and Enya are using as their sources, the differences become glaringly obvious.  The old recordings aren’t polished and cleaned up, but they’re sung by real people, ordinary people doing something extraordinary.  That’s what’s missing from a lot of the commerical recordings, and especially from the ones that are geared towards the new age crowd. While there are airs and waltzes and such, an awful lot of irish music was originally meant for _dancing_.  And not the type of dancing you see done by little girls in curly wigs and heavily embroidered dresses.  There’s a life to the music and dance when it’s done by plain old ordinary people because they love it.  That’s what’s missing from a lot of "professional" performances.  The real stuff has rough edges and warts, and that’s part of what makes it a living tradition.   Topic Records has started re-releasing some of their old 78s onto CD, so it’s easier to find the real stuff now.  They’ve also got a 40-volume set called "Voice of the People" taken from old archival recordings and radio shows and such.  It’s illuminating to hear what ordinary people played and sang before recordings became the baliwick of polished professionals. — Head Muso, White Rats Morris Member, Knights of Xenu (1995).  Chaos Monger and Jill of All Trades. "A head-on collision between Morticia Adams and Martha Stewart"

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Though with all the drugs that we take, a hazmat symbol might be >>appropriate. ;} >ROFL  Lee-You may have a point.  LOL >Aim-Dont forget that you are dieting and weight loss could affect the tatoo >also. >Char > Definitely! > That, as well as aging, greatly affects the locations I choose. I will NOT > get one on the hip or tummy or breast for just those reasons. > shoulderblade and ankle and small of back are relatively safe > Aim

Might want to also keep in mind the potential for surgery and the likelihood of a favorite tat being ruined by the knife. I was hoping that the tat on my ankle was high enough up that I won’t have to worry about it…just in case. Doesn’t leave us girl gimps many safe places, does it?lol Maybe I’ll shave my head and get a nice face on the back. I’ll make that one have blue eyes, a pouty smile and a thin nose. ;o) Kelly C.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Might want to also keep in mind the potential for surgery and the > likelihood > of a favorite tat being ruined by the knife. I was hoping that the tat on > my > ankle was high enough up that I won’t have to worry about it…just in > case. > Doesn’t leave us girl gimps many safe places, does it?lol >  Recently read a story of a gal who tattooed "Keep off the grass" above >  her pubic region.  Later she had to undergo surgery and awoke to find >  a note from the doctor, "Sorry, had to mow the lawn."

 lol…cute. Kelly C.;o)

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> In memory of Napoleon, Domino, and most recently, Jasper, I am planning on > getting a tattoo.  I’ll likely do it Saturday or Sunday this week, when > Some people just do not have enought to do. > Bill

and some people just do not have enough to do. . . other than making that kind of statement.  sorry, bill, but . . .your inner-parent is showing and aim is a grown woman who doesn’t need your parenting. kate – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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>> In memory of Napoleon, Domino, and most recently, Jasper, I am planning on > getting a tattoo.  I’ll likely do it Saturday or Sunday this week, when >Some people just do not have enought to do.

But it isnt your body.  So why should you have an opinion, let alone share it with us? Char "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’.  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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> Though with all the drugs that we take, a hazmat symbol might be >appropriate. ;}

ROFL  Lee-You may have a point.  LOL Aim-Dont forget that you are dieting and weight loss could affect the tatoo also. Char "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’.  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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>> Though with all the drugs that we take, a hazmat symbol might be >appropriate. ;} >ROFL  Lee-You may have a point.  LOL >Aim-Dont forget that you are dieting and weight loss could affect the tatoo >also. >Char

Definitely! That, as well as aging, greatly affects the locations I choose. I will NOT get one on the hip or tummy or breast for just those reasons. shoulderblade and ankle and small of back are relatively safe Aim

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[...] >rofl. I think I may leave the goddess symbol as an outline with some >shading, rather than filling it. Here’s a question though: do you think >(you personally, though anyone can answer) it is cheesy or lame or >irreverent to have a symbol of the goddess when I am not wiccan or pagan? >I just happen to love the symbol itself, and while I don’t NOT believe, it >isn’t specifically my belief system either. I was kinda thinking in my own >mind that I’d be marking *myself* as a "goddess" of sorts (not in the >deity sense, but in the more common.slang usage of the term) and I liked >that idea, but don’t want to offend people who may happen to see it >either. You know?

The local wiccans _flee_ from Jody and myself at festivals, so perhaps I’m not the right person to ask this question of. ;}  Part of the problem is that many of the wiccans here are celtobunnies, who know nothing of the actual history of the british isles and just want to make up a fairy tale so they can act out their fantasies.  For those of us who _have_ done their research, it can make for…entertaining…interactions.  Especially since they all seem to think that irish music sounds like Enya and Lorena McKennit. When we play the real stuff (which is raw, loud and designed to make your feet tap even if you don’t like it), they get all traumatized. In my experience, most people who recognize the symbol will simply acknowledge it.  Some may ask you about your beliefs.  And some would manage to get offended no matter what your answer is.  I keep having people ask what my knotwork tattoos "mean."  And they really don’t like hearing that the different motifs found in manuscripts and metalwork had no inherent meaning.  In my case, they mean that I’ve spent 15 years learning to draw illuminated manuscripts, and I might as _well_ wear the designs.  The funny thing is that the one memorial tattoo I have is the most visible, but engenders the fewest questions about what it "means."  You could always tell them that you find the symbol to be an emblem that _all_ women can be goddesses. ;} [Hah, I just remembered an incident where someone asked Jody what his Craft name was.  He told them, "Filthy Buzzard.  But you can call me Filth."] >*IF* I do end up getting that one, it will likely be quite small in the >center of the small of my back, which means I will have to take some >serious pain meds first, as I have some serious nerve pain over my sacrum >and SI joints, extending in a 3" wide band from hip to hip. That band is >even 10 degrees or so warmer to the touch than the rest of me. Freaks >people out if they rub my back and notice it.

Ah, I had a spot like that right between my shoulder blades for a long time.  The right shoulder had frozen up and was pinching the nerves for the arm.  When I finally saw a competant doctor, she noticed it right away. I almost had to commit violence on a well-meaning but clueless Berkeleyite who wanted to "adjust" those vertibrae. >I dunno if I will be able to stand to have it done there this weekend. My >back’s been pretty darned sore the last couple of days. I think that even >with the MTX I have damage progressing. I just wish there were a current >study enrolling so I could get some Xrays done and see where things stand!

Sigh, I’m starting to wonder about my ribcage and back myself.  I’ve definitely lost a lot of flexibility since the costochondritis set in, some of it in my shoulders and hips.  That worries me.  The on-call doctor looked at my charts, talked to me about where the pain was, then offered me some more vicodin.  I think both my regular doctors are waiting to see if the MTX will make things settle down.  We may have to bump the dose up to 20mg.  And I really, really don’t want to take Arava, because my gut problems have finally mostly settled down. >Bah, I digress. >Anyway, I was serious in asking your opinion, because I have seen you to >be honest as well as pretty knowledgeable and generally very very >level-headed.  

Hahah.  After my wading into the latest flamefest, you may not think so for much longer. ;}  Though at least I voluntarily did it this time, rather than having someone keep yelling "She’s EEEEEEEEEVIL!" for a routine reminder about netiquette.  I still think that informed consent really does mean knowing both the side effects of a drug, and the effects of _not_ taking the drug.  Both are equally important.  Some side effects are not acceptable for every person.  I talked my doctor into Flexeril instead of Pamelor because decreased libedo and anorgasmia _is_ a serious side effect to me. Some folks wouldn’t think so.  But you should always start a new drug with wide open eyes, because then you at least know what to watch for. — Head Muso, White Rats Morris Member, Knights of Xenu (1995).  Chaos Monger and Jill of All Trades. "A head-on collision between Morticia Adams and Martha Stewart"

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >> Though with all the drugs that we take, a hazmat symbol might be > >>appropriate. ;} > >ROFL  Lee-You may have a point.  LOL > >Aim-Dont forget that you are dieting and weight loss could affect the > tatoo > >also. > >Char > Definitely! > That, as well as aging, greatly affects the locations I choose. I will NOT > get one on the hip or tummy or breast for just those reasons. > shoulderblade and ankle and small of back are relatively safe > Aim > Might want to also keep in mind the potential for surgery and the likelihood > of a favorite tat being ruined by the knife. I was hoping that the tat on my > ankle was high enough up that I won’t have to worry about it…just in case. > Doesn’t leave us girl gimps many safe places, does it?lol

***i’ve been thinking of having the surgical scars themselves turned into something artistic. > Maybe I’ll shave my head and get a nice face on the back. I’ll make that one > have blue eyes, a pouty smile and a thin nose. ;o)

***LOL!  and as the hair grows back, you can get a different haircut for the back than the one for the front and grow a beard on the back of your head! just think of the possibilities.   i’m loving this one! kate – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Kelly C.

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arrrrggggghhhh!  loreena mckinnet doesn’t do irish pieces?  but, but, but… she did one of turlough o’carolan’s (whose music i am quite fond of).  i just like her voice mainly, but thought she did that one piece well.  can’t remember which piece it was now.  brain fog.  lee, in my book, irish music runs the gamut from soft and sultry to bring the house down brash, which i love about it—something for each of my moods<smile>.  have i been delusional all these years? kate (feeling very uninformed and confused)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > [...] >rofl. I think I may leave the goddess symbol as an outline with some >shading, rather than filling it. Here’s a question though: do you think >(you personally, though anyone can answer) it is cheesy or lame or >irreverent to have a symbol of the goddess when I am not wiccan or pagan? >I just happen to love the symbol itself, and while I don’t NOT believe, it >isn’t specifically my belief system either. I was kinda thinking in my own >mind that I’d be marking *myself* as a "goddess" of sorts (not in the >deity sense, but in the more common.slang usage of the term) and I liked >that idea, but don’t want to offend people who may happen to see it >either. You know? > The local wiccans _flee_ from Jody and myself at festivals, so perhaps > I’m not the right person to ask this question of. ;}  Part of the problem > is that many of the wiccans here are celtobunnies, who know nothing of the > actual history of the british isles and just want to make up a fairy tale > so they can act out their fantasies.  For those of us who _have_ done their > research, it can make for…entertaining…interactions.  Especially since > they all seem to think that irish music sounds like Enya and Lorena McKennit. > When we play the real stuff (which is raw, loud and designed to make your > feet tap even if you don’t like it), they get all traumatized. > In my experience, most people who recognize the symbol will simply > acknowledge it.  Some may ask you about your beliefs.  And some would > manage to get offended no matter what your answer is.  I keep having people > ask what my knotwork tattoos "mean."  And they really don’t like hearing > that the different motifs found in manuscripts and metalwork had no inherent > meaning.  In my case, they mean that I’ve spent 15 years learning to draw > illuminated manuscripts, and I might as _well_ wear the designs.  The funny > thing is that the one memorial tattoo I have is the most visible, but > engenders the fewest questions about what it "means."  You could always > tell them that you find the symbol to be an emblem that _all_ women can > be goddesses. ;} > [Hah, I just remembered an incident where someone asked Jody what his Craft > name was.  He told them, "Filthy Buzzard.  But you can call me Filth."] >*IF* I do end up getting that one, it will likely be quite small in the >center of the small of my back, which means I will have to take some >serious pain meds first, as I have some serious nerve pain over my sacrum >and SI joints, extending in a 3" wide band from hip to hip. That band is >even 10 degrees or so warmer to the touch than the rest of me. Freaks >people out if they rub my back and notice it. > Ah, I had a spot like that right between my shoulder blades for a long > time.  The right shoulder had frozen up and was pinching the nerves for > the arm.  When I finally saw a competant doctor, she noticed it right away. > I almost had to commit violence on a well-meaning but clueless Berkeleyite > who wanted to "adjust" those vertibrae. >I dunno if I will be able to stand to have it done there this weekend. My >back’s been pretty darned sore the last couple of days. I think that even >with the MTX I have damage progressing. I just wish there were a current >study enrolling so I could get some Xrays done and see where things stand! > Sigh, I’m starting to wonder about my ribcage and back myself.  I’ve > definitely lost a lot of flexibility since the costochondritis set in, > some of it in my shoulders and hips.  That worries me.  The on-call doctor > looked at my charts, talked to me about where the pain was, then offered > me some more vicodin.  I think both my regular doctors are waiting to see > if the MTX will make things settle down.  We may have to bump the dose up > to 20mg.  And I really, really don’t want to take Arava, because my gut > problems have finally mostly settled down. >Bah, I digress. >Anyway, I was serious in asking your opinion, because I have seen you to >be honest as well as pretty knowledgeable and generally very very >level-headed. > Hahah.  After my wading into the latest flamefest, you may not think so > for much longer. ;}  Though at least I voluntarily did it this time, rather > than having someone keep yelling "She’s EEEEEEEEEVIL!" for a routine reminder > about netiquette.  I still think that informed consent really does mean > knowing both the side effects of a drug, and the effects of _not_ taking > the drug.  Both are equally important.  Some side effects are not acceptable > for every person.  I talked my doctor into Flexeril instead of Pamelor > because decreased libedo and anorgasmia _is_ a serious side effect to me. > Some folks wouldn’t think so.  But you should always start a new drug with > wide open eyes, because then you at least know what to watch for. > — > Head Muso, White Rats Morris > Member, Knights of Xenu (1995).  Chaos Monger and Jill of All Trades. > "A head-on collision between Morticia Adams and Martha Stewart"

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>Some people just do not have enought to do. >Bill

Others are too judgmental. Becky Becky Ratliff

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>The local wiccans _flee_ from Jody and myself at festivals, so perhaps >I’m not the right person to ask this question of. ;}  Part of the problem >is that many of the wiccans here are celtobunnies, who know nothing of the >actual history of the british isles and just want to make up a fairy tale >so they can act out their fantasies.  For those of us who _have_ done their >research, it can make for…entertaining…interactions.  Especially since >they all seem to think that irish music sounds like Enya and Lorena McKennit. >When we play the real stuff (which is raw, loud and designed to make your >feet tap even if you don’t like it), they get all traumatized.

*giggle* There is a bar and restaurant here called "Celtic Bayou" that is oddly a combination of Cajun and Irish. Go figure. Bangers and Mash next to Crawfish Etouffe on the menu. But somehow it WORKS. And the live music is nightly, and all Irish. WONDERFUL stuff. The real stuff, as you say, loud, raucous and occasionally raunchy. Love it. > You could always >tell them that you find the symbol to be an emblem that _all_ women can >be goddesses. ;}

That is basically EXACTLY why I like it and EXACTLY what I see as its meaning. >Ah, I had a spot like that right between my shoulder blades for a long >time.  The right shoulder had frozen up and was pinching the nerves for >the arm.  When I finally saw a competant doctor, she noticed it right away. >I almost had to commit violence on a well-meaning but clueless Berkeleyite >who wanted to "adjust" those vertibrae.

Sucks, huh? I’ve had that spot/band for as long as I can remember. I noticed it for SURE after I slipped discs at L4-L5 and L5-S1 (yep, 2 at once) but I think I may have had it to a lesser extent before that too. I remember having nerve pain and hypersensitivity in my legs for years before that, likely due to SI involvement and resulting sciatic nerve trouble. I don’t know that it is fixable. Someday I will again have insurance and at that time I will get more PT and see what we can do about it. >Sigh, I’m starting to wonder about my ribcage and back myself.  I’ve >definitely lost a lot of flexibility since the costochondritis set in, >some of it in my shoulders and hips.  That worries me.  The on-call doctor >looked at my charts, talked to me about where the pain was, then offered >me some more vicodin.  I think both my regular doctors are waiting to see >if the MTX will make things settle down.  We may have to bump the dose up >to 20mg.  And I really, really don’t want to take Arava, because my gut >problems have finally mostly settled down.

blech! Sucks, doesn’t it? The MTX is helping me a TON symptomatically, but I am just recently discovering that the RD was correct when he said it is a symptomatic treatment for AS, and doesn’t truly act as a DMARD in my disease. It does NOT slow or stop the damage, just decreases the resulting inflammation, thereby helping with pain and activity levels. I definitely need to get onto Enbrel or Kineret or Remicade or something as soon as i have insurance and can do it. >Hahah.  After my wading into the latest flamefest, you may not think so >for much longer. ;}  Though at least I voluntarily did it this time, rather >than having someone keep yelling "She’s EEEEEEEEEVIL!" for a routine reminder >about netiquette.  I still think that informed consent really does mean >knowing both the side effects of a drug, and the effects of _not_ taking >the drug.  Both are equally important.  Some side effects are not acceptable >for every person.  I talked my doctor into Flexeril instead of Pamelor >because decreased libedo and anorgasmia _is_ a serious side effect to me. >Some folks wouldn’t think so.  But you should always start a new drug with >wide open eyes, because then you at least know what to watch for.

LOL. Nah, I agreed with much of what you had to say, and the parts I didn’t agree with weren’t offensive or rude, so who cares if I don’t agree?  :-) I hear ya on the drugs thing. I agree FULLY on that. And yeah I know what you mean on the libido thing. I considered it a serious side effect of some o the antidepressants I tried. Yet some docs seemed to think it was a reasonable, and indeed "minor inconvenience" thing to trade off. Wellbutrin has the opposite effect and i love it for that. Means I am a horndawg, but I’d rather be that than incapable and numb in that area. Aim

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>Very nice.  Keep in mind that tribal designs really depend on negative >space.  The smaller you go, the bigger the risk of the tattoo not aging >well.  I say this because a friend insisted on having a small tribal >peacock done…that’s now mostly a black blob.  My first tattoo was going >to be almost half the size of what the artist talked me into, and he did >that for good reason.  I’d rather still have a design in 20 years.  The >cat face shows up at about 3" square on my monitor, and _that_ is almost >too small for the amount of detail you have.

Yeah, that is part of the reason I did some re-designing of it "on paper" — just can’t be bothered to do it via photoshop too. I will scan in the paper one eventually, but I created more white space, etc. so that it WOULD work smaller. I just really don’t feel the need to have a HUGE dinnerplate (or even tea saucer) sized tat on my shoulder. I would prefer to keep it small enough that I can cover it with clothing if I so choose. So I did some redesigning for just that reason, and will likely still do a bit more in order to increase the white space some more. Originally it was just an outline, not inked in, but I think it looks better in blackwork rather than just a line drawing, you know? >I know that people use the crescents for goddess symbols, but I _still_ >can’t see it as anything but a biohazard symbol. [grin]  You might want >to do any colors other than solid black, red or orange for it.  Just in >case.  Though with all the drugs that we take, a hazmat symbol might be >appropriate. ;}

*giggle* ain’t that the truth… rofl. I think I may leave the goddess symbol as an outline with some shading, rather than filling it. Here’s a question though: do you think (you personally, though anyone can answer) it is cheesy or lame or irreverent to have a symbol of the goddess when I am not wiccan or pagan? I just happen to love the symbol itself, and while I don’t NOT believe, it isn’t specifically my belief system either. I was kinda thinking in my own mind that I’d be marking *myself* as a "goddess" of sorts (not in the deity sense, but in the more common.slang usage of the term) and I liked that idea, but don’t want to offend people who may happen to see it either. You know? *IF* I do end up getting that one, it will likely be quite small in the center of the small of my back, which means I will have to take some serious pain meds first, as I have some serious nerve pain over my sacrum and SI joints, extending in a 3" wide band from hip to hip. That band is even 10 degrees or so warmer to the touch than the rest of me. Freaks people out if they rub my back and notice it. I dunno if I will be able to stand to have it done there this weekend. My back’s been pretty darned sore the last couple of days. I think that even with the MTX I have damage progressing. I just wish there were a current study enrolling so I could get some Xrays done and see where things stand! Bah, I digress. Anyway, I was serious in asking your opinion, because I have seen you to be honest as well as pretty knowledgeable and generally very very level-headed.  I will see if I can’t get the cat scanned (no pun intended) in the next couple of days, even if it means using my webcam to take a shot of the paper on which I’ve drawn it out. Aim

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[...] >"tribal" looking cat face. I’ve changed it quite a bit more since that >one, but you can at least get the general idea. I will scan in the final >concept when I get a chance. >There’s also another one there, entitled "goddess" that I also found on >the web. It may end up as a teeny tiny piece above or below the cat’s >face. We shall see. If I do it, it will be inked solid, not left as an >outline like the picture. Havent decided yet whether to go with black or a >color for "goddess". The cat face is black. Oh, and it’s going on the back >of my shoulder, and should be relatively small — maybe 2" squared.

Very nice.  Keep in mind that tribal designs really depend on negative space.  The smaller you go, the bigger the risk of the tattoo not aging well.  I say this because a friend insisted on having a small tribal peacock done…that’s now mostly a black blob.  My first tattoo was going to be almost half the size of what the artist talked me into, and he did that for good reason.  I’d rather still have a design in 20 years.  The cat face shows up at about 3" square on my monitor, and _that_ is almost too small for the amount of detail you have. I know that people use the crescents for goddess symbols, but I _still_ can’t see it as anything but a biohazard symbol. [grin]  You might want to do any colors other than solid black, red or orange for it.  Just in case.  Though with all the drugs that we take, a hazmat symbol might be appropriate. ;} — Head Muso, White Rats Morris Member, Knights of Xenu (1995).  Chaos Monger and Jill of All Trades. "A head-on collision between Morticia Adams and Martha Stewart"

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> So, do I skip my MTX shot on Friday if I am getting a tat on the > weekend??? Anyone?

Beautiful design Aim very cool!  I am not much of a tattoo type but that is really nice and unusual. I wouldn’t skip mtx.  You are going to a reputable place so it will be clean.   I’ll bet my banged up knee from falling on rocks is much worse than a tattoo. — MZ — Visit my website: http://www.mzuschlag.com

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brace with the logos AI and ASA on them!!!   ;  ) Donna G

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OK, after re-reading this,  I apologize for telling you to go to hell, but I stand by the rest. (I am really trying to reserve the "go to hell"s for the trolls… ) Aim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> In memory of Napoleon, Domino, and most recently, Jasper, I am planning on >> getting a tattoo.  I’ll likely do it Saturday or Sunday this week, when >Some people just do not have enought to do. >Bill >Go to hell. Why on earth would you judge a personal decision I make with >MY body that won’t hurt you? And if I do it in memory of a companion who >brought me great joy and a will to live and fight when I was in great >amounts of pain and depression, what’s wrong with that? >Actually, don’t answer that. I don’t really care what you think. But it is >NOT your problem. So express that you like it, or that you don’t, but >don’t judge me personally. You don’t know me well enough to make a >judgement, and even if you did, it’s not your place anyway. >Aim

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says… > In memory of Napoleon, Domino, and most recently, Jasper, I am planning on > getting a tattoo.  I’ll likely do it Saturday or Sunday this week, when > Some people just do not have enought to do. > Bill

And some people are judgmental snobs.   — Di "May all your weeds be wildflowers." Anonymous dabell at optonline dot net www.pbase.com/di www.loveyourmother.homestead.com http://bensonpolymeric.com/folding/start.html

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>Very nice, Aim! I would skip the shot for sure and make sure the tat’s in >good shape before the next shot is due. >You know, I’ve been thinking of another tat, seeing as how I’ve got a gift >certificate for one. Been having a hard time deciding what I want. Mom keeps >making noises about wanting to get matching ones, but won’t commit. She’s a >scaredy-cat and grammy told her not to do it (though gram tells me she likes >mine). >I kinda wish there were some sort of cool gimp logo or something!lol  Maybe >a stylized cane? I’ll have to think on it. >Kelly C.;o)

AI needs a logo. I mean a little artsy-fartsy logo/symbol type thing. Then we could all get it Aim

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>> In memory of Napoleon, Domino, and most recently, Jasper, I am planning on > getting a tattoo.  I’ll likely do it Saturday or Sunday this week, when >Some people just do not have enought to do. >Bill

Go to hell. Why on earth would you judge a personal decision I make with MY body that won’t hurt you? And if I do it in memory of a companion who brought me great joy and a will to live and fight when I was in great amounts of pain and depression, what’s wrong with that? Actually, don’t answer that. I don’t really care what you think. But it is NOT your problem. So express that you like it, or that you don’t, but don’t judge me personally. You don’t know me well enough to make a judgement, and even if you did, it’s not your place anyway. Aim

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>So, do I skip my MTX shot on Friday if I am getting a tat on the >weekend??? Anyone?

I would.  And maybe the week after as well. Char "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’.  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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Very nice, Aim! I would skip the shot for sure and make sure the tat’s in good shape before the next shot is due. You know, I’ve been thinking of another tat, seeing as how I’ve got a gift certificate for one. Been having a hard time deciding what I want. Mom keeps making noises about wanting to get matching ones, but won’t commit. She’s a scaredy-cat and grammy told her not to do it (though gram tells me she likes mine). I kinda wish there were some sort of cool gimp logo or something!lol  Maybe a stylized cane? I’ll have to think on it. Kelly C.;o)

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> In memory of Napoleon, Domino, and most recently, Jasper, I am planning on > getting a tattoo.  I’ll likely do it Saturday or Sunday this week, when

Some people just do not have enought to do. Bill

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In memory of Napoleon, Domino, and most recently, Jasper, I am planning on getting a tattoo.  I’ll likely do it Saturday or Sunday this week, when Chris goes to get his new one for his birthday. I have finally found a design I like, and have refined and altered the original a little to suit me. The original was one i found on the web, but I have changed it enough that I think I can safely call it my own. there is a very rough starting design on my yahoo directory at http://photos.yahoo.com/dnayma in the "my photos" section. It should be the last picture in the folder — the "tribal" looking cat face. I’ve changed it quite a bit more since that one, but you can at least get the general idea. I will scan in the final concept when I get a chance. There’s also another one there, entitled "goddess" that I also found on the web. It may end up as a teeny tiny piece above or below the cat’s face. We shall see. If I do it, it will be inked solid, not left as an outline like the picture. Havent decided yet whether to go with black or a color for "goddess". The cat face is black. Oh, and it’s going on the back of my shoulder, and should be relatively small — maybe 2" squared. So, do I skip my MTX shot on Friday if I am getting a tat on the weekend??? Anyone? Aim

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