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>Something has to be done in this area. People are screaming about the >attempts to reign in the ‘net due to its questionable content–and I don’t >give a hoot about their concerns. This kind of trash, no matter how its >presented, isn’t worth the network time and network resources it takes up. >The thing that we’re seeing, I think, is that as more and more on-line >service providers stop carrying questionable newsgroups, we’re going to >see more and more of these posts on regular, useful groups. Then, we’ll >see our groups threatened and we’ll be forced to band together with the >perverts of the world. Something has GOT to be done to avoid this!
It is really sad when people like you don’t have the emotional or intellectual capacity to look at an issue seriously rather than just an easy knee-jerk reaction and just accuse someone discussing sexuality as a pervert. I have no sexual interest in children. I do believe we should examine some of the ideas however regarding childhood sexuality. Since you are obvious not mature to deal with such issues, I suggest you just not read such articles! Hopefully I won’t have to counsel your children who are screwed up or guilt ridden based on false shame etc by teachings and repression that are neither biblical nor natural. Perhaps you need to look at your own life before casting stones. Usually people who cast such stones suffer from the problems of their own sexual development so they are uncomfortable with it and just react emotionally calling names or just accusing someone of being a pervert or pedophilia! Dave, Liberated Christians, Phoenix Az Teaching Positive Intimacy and Women Centered Sexuality Exposing False Traditional Biblical Teachings Over 1200 subscribers get our Free Internet Newsletter
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Dave wrote : > Usually people who cast such stones suffer from the
problems of their own sexual development so they are uncomfortable with it and just react emotionally calling names or just accusing someone of being a pervert or pedophilia!<< Well, it seems also that Dave can’t take it when someone disagrees with him. He gets to resort to put downs and some sort of holier than thou ranting. Organon Inc. 375 Mt. Pleasant Ave, W. Orange, NJ 07052 (201) 325-4532
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Something has to be done in this area. People are screaming about the >attempts to reign in the ‘net due to its questionable content–and I don’t >give a hoot about their concerns. This kind of trash, no matter how its >presented, isn’t worth the network time and network resources it takes up. >The thing that we’re seeing, I think, is that as more and more on-line >service providers stop carrying questionable newsgroups, we’re going to >see more and more of these posts on regular, useful groups. Then, we’ll >see our groups threatened and we’ll be forced to band together with the >perverts of the world. Something has GOT to be done to avoid this! >It is really sad when people like you don’t have the emotional or >intellectual capacity to look at an issue seriously rather than just an easy >knee-jerk reaction and just accuse someone discussing sexuality as a >pervert. I have no sexual interest in children. I do believe we should >examine some of the ideas however regarding childhood sexuality. Since you >are obvious not mature to deal with such issues, I suggest you just not read >such articles! >Hopefully I won’t have to counsel your children who are screwed up or guilt >ridden based on false shame etc by teachings and repression that are neither >biblical nor natural. Perhaps you need to look at your own life before >casting stones. Usually people who cast such stones suffer from the >problems of their own sexual development so they are uncomfortable with it >and just react emotionally calling names or just accusing someone of being a >pervert or pedophilia! >Dave, Liberated Christians, Phoenix Az >Teaching Positive Intimacy and Women Centered Sexuality >Exposing False Traditional Biblical Teachings >Over 1200 subscribers get our Free Internet Newsletter
Sorry, I let you off too easily the first time–though I should certainly ignore trolls like yourself… First of all, you invited the reader to determine for themselves whether or not you were suggesting that sex with children is what you were advocating. That two of us did make some determination as to your intent, shouldn’t be suprising to you. Secondly, you’ll note that no where in my post did I suggest that you were a pedophile–I did however suggest that such things are rather sickening and I proposed a few ideas as to why these sorts of posts are entering otherwise fine groups. Thirdly, having two people suggest that sex with children is NOT childrens sexuality, and that sex with children is not good (nor is it legal), does not lend to the conclusion that the writers are neither "mature" or "uncomfortable with their sexual developmemt." However, it is likely, and probably statistically provable, (if someone were to care to do a study), that people who advocate such ideas as having sex with children (or that the parents have sex with their kids) are more likely to be perverts or pedophiles than that those who find this idea sickening are likely to have repressed sexual development. In the end, no matter how well you may write (which you seem to think lends more credence to your arguments than to Eric’s) it doesn’t make the garbage that you are spewing any more correct. If that were the only criteria, then Hitler must have been right, and we both know what a load of bull that is. I’ll not respond to anything further you have to say in that 1) alt.parenting.solutions deserves better than this and 2) trolls should be treated with a cold shoulder. Like I said earlier, it was a mistake to respond to you in the first place. donna
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>I agree with you that the post was, shall we say, full of it.
Diane, Thanks there is another post replied to him check it out, I am just wondering about his sources, and the topic is not quite right. EricG
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I didn’t want to quote even part of this post, it makes me sick. First off the whole premise is screwy….Sexuality????..the post was about sex, not sexuality. Your quotes on christians and what they are taught is outright lies and unfounded. Where are your sources and what are you posting this here for??? Sexuality is knowing yourself and being touch with your feminm and masculine self, we all have these traits. I never heard such ludicrous information on sexuality….this post is describing what we as people believe about SEX and some of the thing other cultures do pertaining to SEX not what the views on sexuality are. If this post had even a reference to sexuality RE: Fathers that do not want thier kids to hug and kiss other men, or show emotion play with dolls, cry etc… then maybe my post would not be so nasty. The christian part was rediculous also seeing that I was taught by christians about sexuality and know just how I feel about my sexuality. The subject matter could be change to reflect something like Children and Sex blah blah blah…but this has little to do with SEXUALITY. If any of you burned up your time reading this post and feel the same way post your reply. I would like to know if I am way off base here. EricG
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I didn’t want to quote even part of this post, it makes me sick. First off >the whole premise is screwy….Sexuality????..the post was about sex, not >sexuality. Your quotes on christians and what they are taught is outright >lies and unfounded. Where are your sources and what are you posting this >here for??? Sexuality is knowing yourself and being touch with your feminm >and masculine self, we all have these traits. I never heard such ludicrous >information on sexuality….this post is describing what we as people >believe about SEX and some of the thing other cultures do pertaining to SEX >not what the views on sexuality are. If this post had even a reference to >sexuality RE: Fathers that do not want thier kids to hug and kiss other >men, or show emotion play with dolls, cry etc… then maybe my post would >not be so nasty. The christian part was rediculous also seeing that I was >taught by christians about sexuality and know just how I feel about my >sexuality. The subject matter could be change to reflect something like >Children and Sex blah blah blah…but this has little to do with SEXUALITY. > If any of you burned up your time reading this post and feel the same way >post your reply. I would like to know if I am way off base here. >EricG
Your emotional rambling is so confusing I’m not sure if you are trying to ask a question or preach. If you have a specific question I’d be happy to address it. Dave, Liberated Christians, Phoenix Az Teaching Positive Intimacy and Women Centered Sexuality Exposing False Traditional Biblical Teachings Over 1200 subscribers get our Free Internet Newsletter
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Eric, I agree with you that the post was, shall we say, full of it. Secondly, I have to wonder if the net isn’t being used quite effectively, by those who wish to molest and otherwise take advantage of children in order to further their networking with others who are of like mind. It is sickening. Something has to be done in this area. People are screaming about the attempts to reign in the ‘net due to its questionable content–and I don’t give a hoot about their concerns. This kind of trash, no matter how its presented, isn’t worth the network time and network resources it takes up. The thing that we’re seeing, I think, is that as more and more on-line service providers stop carrying questionable newsgroups, we’re going to see more and more of these posts on regular, useful groups. Then, we’ll see our groups threatened and we’ll be forced to band together with the perverts of the world. Something has GOT to be done to avoid this! As usual, if I’m off base…;-) Organon Inc. 375 Mt. Pleasant Ave, W. Orange, NJ 07052 (201) 325-4532
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