Pure Parents

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Nancy – we can’t avoid him without the ng disintegrating to the point of > being no use to anyone – SO lets combne and front him. As he does not > respond to my postings at all I assume I am kill-filed and would not have > access to his Inbox. Had I such I would work on a recursive loop so that a > message was being sent to him continuously. > If we put him on our killfile that means he is winning. My aim would be to > have him put ALL of us on his killfile so that he speaks only to himself > should be continue to participate. > Isabel > permanently in the ether: > >> They come here more for emotional support rob. Not to be > >> dissected and told (from very little evidence) that the > >> reason their child has problems is because they are a bad > >> mother. > >I never said anything remotely like that. > climbing into the pig pen, bloody fingers and all. > YOU **DID** call me a bad mother, by stating all my sons probs were MY > fault due to MY parenting or lack of parenting skills,.  good thing I > did niot listen to you. > I can trace you by yor headers–can usually even get your snail mail > addy and all kinds of info from there.  I helped track down a stalker > once on another ng–and if you know how–you can find out lots of > personal info. > And you perpeuate this by screwing with the fikters we set to avoid > you.  As I have stated, I think you are a creep. > Nancy

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Nancy – we can’t avoid him without the ng disintegrating to the point of being no use to anyone – SO lets combne and front him. As he does not respond to my postings at all I assume I am kill-filed and would not have access to his Inbox. Had I such I would work on a recursive loop so that a message was being sent to him continuously. If we put him on our killfile that means he is winning. My aim would be to have him put ALL of us on his killfile so that he speaks only to himself should be continue to participate. Isabel

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > permanently in the ether: >> They come here more for emotional support rob. Not to be >> dissected and told (from very little evidence) that the >> reason their child has problems is because they are a bad >> mother. >I never said anything remotely like that. > climbing into the pig pen, bloody fingers and all. > YOU **DID** call me a bad mother, by stating all my sons probs were MY > fault due to MY parenting or lack of parenting skills,.  good thing I > did niot listen to you. > I can trace you by yor headers–can usually even get your snail mail > addy and all kinds of info from there.  I helped track down a stalker > once on another ng–and if you know how–you can find out lots of > personal info. > And you perpeuate this by screwing with the fikters we set to avoid > you.  As I have stated, I think you are a creep. > Nancy

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We have you down to a artform – there is no hiding where you are concerned… Jennifer

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I have not hidden.. I was referring to the fact that when you say "we" you may be the same person as Keith and Mark, just under a different name. Heck, I could be Keith or Mark for all you know. -Rob

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We have you down to a artform – there is no hiding where you are > concerned… > Jennifer

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> Check the headers…..

They’ll tell you which newsserver they used, and the IP address they had at the time, but little else.  I’m sure I’m not the only one here using either bellatlantic or msn (depending on mood). > I think the problem to some degree is your lack of respect to > the older members of this group and that you don’t seem to > realize that people don’t need to be logically analyzed.

That’s right, illogical analysis is much more useful. <grin>.  How would you suggest we proceed with support?  Should we all pretend to be medical doctors and prescribe meds to people based on limitted information? > Some of these people have been dealing with this illness > longer than you’ve been alive so doesn’t it seem plausible > that they are due some respect ?

Perhaps that just makes them more set in their ways, it doesn’t make them more knowledgable or (for that matter) correct in their understanding of things. > They come here more for emotional support rob. Not to be > dissected and told (from very little evidence) that the > reason their child has problems is because they are a bad > mother.

I never said anything remotely like that.  I simply suggested that the fact that the mother (in question) had lost two husbands and all of her friends (note, the mother never claimed to be bipolar or depressed), that perhaps she should try to help herself before looking for problems in her kid. > Back hand remarks about a womens ability as a > mother will solve nothing but will and it has created > strife for you.

I’m not sure what you mean when you say "solve nothing but will and.." Please clarify. > This is what people are angry about, > even though it sounds logical to you, it’s not > appropriate. Nor is your comments about locking up > people and using them for lab experiments when they > try to suicide.

Why not?  If they don’t want to live, why should we waste a perfectly good b ody? > I saw your post in ssdm about suicide plan and it > was very good advice.

Yes, it was.  It was no different than any other postings I’ve made. > Good for you. That is the type > of support you need to offer.

I always have, and will continue to do such. Take care, Rob

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>Heck, I could be Keith or Mark for all you know.

You flatter yourself.

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permanently in the ether: > They come here more for emotional support rob. Not to be > dissected and told (from very little evidence) that the > reason their child has problems is because they are a bad > mother. >I never said anything remotely like that.

climbing into the pig pen, bloody fingers and all. YOU **DID** call me a bad mother, by stating all my sons probs were MY fault due to MY parenting or lack of parenting skills,.  good thing I did niot listen to you. I can trace you by yor headers–can usually even get your snail mail addy and all kinds of info from there.  I helped track down a stalker once on another ng–and if you know how–you can find out lots of personal info. And you perpeuate this by screwing with the fikters we set to avoid you.  As I have stated, I think you are a creep. Nancy

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Actually, my killfile (in the ng) is empty.  I don’t hide from other people’s words. I don’t respond to every single posting because I have better things to do with my time. -Rob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Nancy – we can’t avoid him without the ng disintegrating to the point of > being no use to anyone – SO lets combne and front him. As he does not > respond to my postings at all I assume I am kill-filed and would not have > access to his Inbox. Had I such I would work on a recursive loop so that a > message was being sent to him continuously. > If we put him on our killfile that means he is winning. My aim would be to > have him put ALL of us on his killfile so that he speaks only to himself > should be continue to participate. > Isabel > permanently in the ether: > >> They come here more for emotional support rob. Not to be > >> dissected and told (from very little evidence) that the > >> reason their child has problems is because they are a bad > >> mother. > >I never said anything remotely like that. > climbing into the pig pen, bloody fingers and all. > YOU **DID** call me a bad mother, by stating all my sons probs were MY > fault due to MY parenting or lack of parenting skills,.  good thing I > did niot listen to you. > I can trace you by yor headers–can usually even get your snail mail > addy and all kinds of info from there.  I helped track down a stalker > once on another ng–and if you know how–you can find out lots of > personal info. > And you perpeuate this by screwing with the fikters we set to avoid > you.  As I have stated, I think you are a creep. > Nancy

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Hi Isabel– I think everyone has made some good points.  I had to drop out of the Rob issues because I run a moderated ng and then I hurt my fingers. It was easier to killfile Rob at that point for me. I seriously doubt I can let him slide when I read the posts–be they original or a response from someone else.  I’m not very good at ignoring dangerous infromation and/or spiteful words against innocent bystanders. And off we go…… Hugs, Nancy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Nancy – we can’t avoid him without the ng disintegrating to the point of >being no use to anyone – SO lets combne and front him. As he does not >respond to my postings at all I assume I am kill-filed and would not have >access to his Inbox. Had I such I would work on a recursive loop so that a >message was being sent to him continuously. >If we put him on our killfile that means he is winning. My aim would be to >have him put ALL of us on his killfile so that he speaks only to himself >should be continue to participate. >Isabel > permanently in the ether: > >> They come here more for emotional support rob. Not to be > >> dissected and told (from very little evidence) that the > >> reason their child has problems is because they are a bad > >> mother. > >I never said anything remotely like that. > climbing into the pig pen, bloody fingers and all. > YOU **DID** call me a bad mother, by stating all my sons probs were MY > fault due to MY parenting or lack of parenting skills,.  good thing I > did niot listen to you. > I can trace you by yor headers–can usually even get your snail mail > addy and all kinds of info from there.  I helped track down a stalker > once on another ng–and if you know how–you can find out lots of > personal info. > And you perpeuate this by screwing with the fikters we set to avoid > you.  As I have stated, I think you are a creep. > Nancy

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Seeing how easy it is to change identities (e-mail address/username) with usenet, and given the nature of this group, I wonder how many newcomers stop to realize that there may only be 2 or 3 people in this newsgroup (heck, it could just be one person with a severe case of multiple personality disorder!) -Rob

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Thank you fast. You are very correct. . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >X-NO-ARCHIVE:YES > Seeing how easy it is to change identities (e-mail address/username) with > usenet, and given the nature of this group, I wonder how many newcomers stop > to realize that there may only be 2 or 3 people in this newsgroup (heck, it > could just be one person with a severe case of multiple personality > disorder!) > -Rob >Check the headers….. >I think the problem to some degree is your lack of respect to >the older members of this group and that you don’t seem to >realize that people don’t need to be logically analyzed. >Some of these people have been dealing with this illness >longer than you’ve been alive so doesn’t it seem plausible >that they are due some respect ? >They come here more for emotional support rob. Not to be >dissected and told (from very little evidence) that the >reason their child has problems is because they are a bad >mother. Back hand remarks about a womens ability as a >mother will solve nothing but will and it has created >strife for you. This is what people are angry about, >even though it sounds logical to you, it’s not >appropriate. Nor is your comments about locking up >people and using them for lab experiments when they >try to suicide. >I saw your post in ssdm about suicide plan and it >was very good advice. Good for you. That is the type >of support you need to offer. >I’m probably wasting my time writing this, but one >never knows perhaps you’ll learn something.

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