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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hello all, I need to make an apology to the group as a whole. Sometime >yesterday, my youngest daughter sent a post to this newsgroup. It was one that >I myself even responded to. (She posted her name as Amelia, her name is >actually Carly) She meant no harm, but I explained to her that this an adult >newsgroup and that it contains adult discussions (not to mention some vulgar >language). It never occurred to me that it was my daughter writing the post, >she created another screen name with the help of my other daughter. >Along with an apology, I want to thank everyone who replied to my daughter by >email, giving her some sound advice, along with some of the positive posts on >this thread. It is true that I have been somewhat withdrawn lately, but this >time of year is hard for me since my husband died during the month of April. >No, I am not in need of counseling, or medication, I just get down in the dumps >and it passes as quick as it came on. >I am glad that they noticed though. Makes me realize what special girls I >have. >As a regular and long time poster to this newsgroup, I assure you that this >will not happen again.
klaatu: you need make no apologies to anyone. coping with loss is hard. good on you and your kids, both. it’s very clear you have people in this group who genuinely care for you. they must have reason to do so. the ones who tried to do something useful on your behalf, are more to be trusted than those who’d stab at you by reflex. what i read of you shows you as gentle-natured and intelligent. your post about your kids’ homework load tells me you’re the kind i would want to help if i were your kid and saw you feeling down. best to disregard cynical clowns. if one, drowning, screamed " secours !" they’d say: ‘ that’s the most pseudo-intellectual bastard i’ve ever seen,’ rather than consider the one in distress might be French. at a foster – home my 12-yo ‘relative’ turned in an essay on Hatshepsut, and teachers marked him as not having done the assignment, because the essay was " so clearly the work of an adult." their sneering condescension was such that had i power then i would have killed the lot. my ‘ brother ‘ couldn’t say much, though – he didn’t write the piece. i did. i was eight. god damn all such snap-judgemental supercilious dorx. i knew then i’d dump school asap. your post about the bike – helmet thing shows you have good sense, but aren’t over-protective. for your kids, my thanks for that. many, particularly after loss of a loved one try to tie the rest down too tight. seems people care for you because you’re worth it. congratulations to the lot of you, and my best wishes.
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>god damn all such snap-judgemental supercilious dorx.
Hey … I *like* yer spelling! How come Unka Dan Quayle never taught me too spell "dorx" properly? >i knew then i’d dump school asap.
Spread the word of *that*. Out of curosity, how long did it take you to dump it? Glen (unschooling proponent) Appleby — Do not underestimate your abilities. That is your boss’s job. It is your job to find ways around your boss’s roadblocks.
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>>klaatu : >god damn all such snap-judgemental supercilious dorx. >Glen Appleby : >Hey … I *like* yer spelling! >How come Unka Dan Quayle never taught me too spell "dorx" >properly?
klaatu : thank you, sir. and i, yours. <S> language being tool of thought, i call words well spelled if they carry thought accurately from one mind to another. to ask more seems to coerce the writer to conform to arbitrary aesthetics not his own. i like the creative spelling of the 17th century. it said more of place and mind and mood. as to Unka Dan, i don’t know what to say – we don’t communicate. <sniff> there was a misunderstanding as to whether ‘politician’ is properly spelled: Twerp: (T. W. Earp of Exeter College, Oxford, matriculated in Michaelmas Term, 1911.) A despicable or objectionable person; an insignificant person, a nobody; a nincompoop) or Tworg : (Colloquially, one who farts in the bath-tub and bites the bubbles) >klaatu : >i knew then i’d dump school asap. >Glen Appleby >Spread the word of *that*. >Out of curosity, how long did it take you to dump it? >Glen (unschooling proponent) Appleby
klaatu : about a week. i took a GED a couple of years ago. when the instructor saw " last grade completed : 3rd " she gave me a literacy test. i passed. :-) on the GED itself i pulled a 99th percentile on some stuff, a 96th on some more, and 78th per centile on maths. THAT’s scary. i tell you with absolute conviction if one ignorant as me can score so, the educational system is screwed. reading your stuff, found much to respect. thanks.
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> Twerp: > (T. W. Earp of Exeter College, Oxford, > matriculated in Michaelmas Term, 1911.) > A despicable or objectionable person; an insignificant person, > a nobody; a nincompoop) or
My mama taught me "nincompoop". Good word, still use it today. Cheers, Judy
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>> klaatu: > Twerp: > (T. W. Earp of Exeter College, Oxford, > matriculated in Michaelmas Term, 1911.) > A despicable or objectionable person; an insignificant person, > a nobody; a nincompoop) or >My mama taught me "nincompoop". Good word, still use it today. >Cheers, Judy
klaatu: cool word. always wondered where it came from. <g> "sincere" used to be ‘ sine cera ‘ – (without wax) because dishonest Roman potters caulked cracked wares with wax, and honest ones didn’t. that makes me wonder if ‘nincompoop’ might have come from " non compos [mentis]." any idea? anyway, cheers to you too, ma’am.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> klaatu: >> Twerp: >> (T. W. Earp of Exeter College, Oxford, >> matriculated in Michaelmas Term, 1911.) >> A despicable or objectionable person; an insignificant person, >> a nobody; a nincompoop) or >My mama taught me "nincompoop". Good word, still use it today. >Cheers, Judy > klaatu: > cool word. always wondered where it came from. <g> > "sincere" used to be ‘ sine cera ‘ – (without wax) > because dishonest Roman potters caulked cracked wares with wax, > and honest ones didn’t. > that makes me wonder if ‘nincompoop’ might have come from > " non compos [mentis]." any idea?
Yea, "no mental compost" or "no comprende crap".
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That’s very nice of you to say Annemarie. Thank you. I just get big watery eyes when I think about my mom. Judy
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jude, you are such a nice person. > Annemarie > > Hi Kimberly, I read your daughters post, but was just not sure about > it, so > > did not reply. I am glad to have an answer to the mystery. Your > daughter > > sounds a wonderful caring girl, you are a lucky Mum. > > I am so sorry to hear that your husband died, and it is > understandable that > > you feel down around his anniversary. Grief is something that > doesn’t go > > away suddenly. > > I remember I was very close to my MIL, she died from cancer when she > was > > only 48, it was terrible, and naturally we all grieved. I thought I > had > > come to terms with it, until ten years after her death a friend > phoned > > asking me to talk to another friend who’s mother had been diagnosed > with the > > same inoperable cancer. It was amasing, it just brought it all > back, and > > collecting my thoughts, and thinking about what I would say to this > friend, > > just had me spiraling into grief again, but I think I came out of it > better, > > stronger. > > Anyway my heart is with you. > > Annemarie > Hi Kimberly, > I, like Annemarie, read the kids post and wasn’t sure what to think, > so after the first 4 posts, I skipped it with no response. I > certainly know how we can be affected by losing someone special and > extend my sincere sympathy to you & your girls. The two closest > people to me are my Mom & my Husband. Their unconditional love is so > powerful & special. I lost my Mom 8 years ago on the eve of my > birthday. Instead thinking of that as a sad time, I’ve learned to > think of it as a special time that she would pass over on a special > date to me. Mom felt special to her Dad who ironically passed over > on the eve of her birthday. I think of it as a compliment from her, a > last was of saying I love you. I still miss her terribly as she was > my best friend along with my sweetie pie of 34 years. I’m sure your > darling husband is watching over you all from a special place, trying > to encourage you to pick up and live a full life. Rest assured that > time does heal all & it does get better. > Big Hugs, Judy
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Hello all, I need to make an apology to the group as a whole. Sometime yesterday, my youngest daughter sent a post to this newsgroup. It was one that I myself even responded to. (She posted her name as Amelia, her name is actually Carly) She meant no harm, but I explained to her that this an adult newsgroup and that it contains adult discussions (not to mention some vulgar language). It never occurred to me that it was my daughter writing the post, she created another screen name with the help of my other daughter. Along with an apology, I want to thank everyone who replied to my daughter by email, giving her some sound advice, along with some of the positive posts on this thread. It is true that I have been somewhat withdrawn lately, but this time of year is hard for me since my husband died during the month of April. No, I am not in need of counseling, or medication, I just get down in the dumps and it passes as quick as it came on. I am glad that they noticed though. Makes me realize what special girls I have. As a regular and long time poster to this newsgroup, I assure you that this will not happen again. Sincerely, Kimberly
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>Sounds to me like you are doing a good job of raising empathetic >and polite children. And for Elaine and those who doubted that >this was a real child, I hope they are know well-chastened and >learn to look at things less cynically.
Josie here……always and ever the cynic (and hoping I never change that, cuz I view it as realism) , but quite easily chastened when appropiate. I’m sorry……really sorry. Josie
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Hi Kimberly, I read your daughters post, but was just not sure about it, so did not reply. I am glad to have an answer to the mystery. Your daughter sounds a wonderful caring girl, you are a lucky Mum. I am so sorry to hear that your husband died, and it is understandable that you feel down around his anniversary. Grief is something that doesn’t go away suddenly. I remember I was very close to my MIL, she died from cancer when she was only 48, it was terrible, and naturally we all grieved. I thought I had come to terms with it, until ten years after her death a friend phoned asking me to talk to another friend who’s mother had been diagnosed with the same inoperable cancer. It was amasing, it just brought it all back, and collecting my thoughts, and thinking about what I would say to this friend, just had me spiraling into grief again, but I think I came out of it better, stronger. Anyway my heart is with you. Annemarie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all, I need to make an apology to the group as a whole. Sometime > yesterday, my youngest daughter sent a post to this newsgroup. It was one that > I myself even responded to. (She posted her name as Amelia, her name is > actually Carly) She meant no harm, but I explained to her that this an adult > newsgroup and that it contains adult discussions (not to mention some vulgar > language). It never occurred to me that it was my daughter writing the post, > she created another screen name with the help of my other daughter. > Along with an apology, I want to thank everyone who replied to my daughter by > email, giving her some sound advice, along with some of the positive posts on > this thread. It is true that I have been somewhat withdrawn lately, but this > time of year is hard for me since my husband died during the month of April. > No, I am not in need of counseling, or medication, I just get down in the dumps > and it passes as quick as it came on. > I am glad that they noticed though. Makes me realize what special girls I > have. > As a regular and long time poster to this newsgroup, I assure you that this > will not happen again. > Sincerely, > Kimberly
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I still doubt it. No 8yr old kid wrote that note. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hello all, I need to make an apology to the group as a whole. Sometime >yesterday, my youngest daughter sent a post to this newsgroup. It was one that >I myself even responded to. (She posted her name as Amelia, her name is >actually Carly) She meant no harm, but I explained to her that this an adult >newsgroup and that it contains adult discussions (not to mention some vulgar >language). It never occurred to me that it was my daughter writing the post, >she created another screen name with the help of my other daughter. >Along with an apology, I want to thank everyone who replied to my daughter by >email, giving her some sound advice, along with some of the positive posts on >this thread. It is true that I have been somewhat withdrawn lately, but this >time of year is hard for me since my husband died during the month of April. >No, I am not in need of counseling, or medication, I just get down in the dumps >and it passes as quick as it came on. >I am glad that they noticed though. Makes me realize what special girls I >have. >As a regular and long time poster to this newsgroup, I assure you that this >will not happen again. >Sincerely, >Kimberly >You have two very special daughters to be so concerned about mom. >Sounds to me like you are doing a good job of raising empathetic >and polite children. And for Elaine and those who doubted that >this was a real child, I hope they are know well-chastened and >learn to look at things less cynically. >As for the adult discussions and vulgar language, it seems to me >that your daughter effectively filtered that out and would not be >harmed by it. She certainly got what she needed and did what >helped her. Smart kid. >Dorothy >There is no sound, no cry in all the world >that can be heard unless someone listens .. >source unknown
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Elaine, I am sorry that my daughter doesn’t meet the criteria of an 8 year old in your book. I sent an apology to the group and that is all I can do. You have the right to doubt anything you so chose. Hope you have a nice day. Kimberly
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>Hello all, I need to make an apology to the group as a whole. Sometime >yesterday, my youngest daughter sent a post to this newsgroup. It was one that >I myself even responded to. (She posted her name as Amelia, her name is >actually Carly) She meant no harm, but I explained to her that this an adult >newsgroup and that it contains adult discussions (not to mention some vulgar >language). It never occurred to me that it was my daughter writing the post, >she created another screen name with the help of my other daughter.
Why would you apologize for a kid posting to alt.parenting.solutions? It is predominately an adult newsgroup, but I would welcome hearing from kids as well. After all, isn’t this group *about* them and wouldn’t it be kinda kool to get their inputs as well? Sorry about your loss. — Do not underestimate your abilities. That is your boss’s job. It is your job to find ways around your boss’s roadblocks.
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> Sounds to me like you are doing a good job of raising empathetic > and polite children. And for Elaine and those who doubted that > this was a real child, I hope they are know well-chastened and > learn to look at things less cynically.
I didn’t really ever reply to the "from a kid" thread, except to say once that I did not believe it was a kid. I didn’t think that a kid could write so maturely. I was wrong. "Kimberly" has wonderful children, and they sure do love you in their showing of such a willingness to come to your "peers" here and discuss with them ("anonymously") heartfelt concerns. As for Elaine, she’d NEVER admit to that. AJPDLA
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I told you she’d never admit to it. Way too vain. > I still doubt it. No 8yr old kid wrote that note.
But an 8 year old kid wrote this ^^^^ one. AJPDLA
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hello all, I need to make an apology to the group as a whole. Sometime >yesterday, my youngest daughter sent a post to this newsgroup. It was one that >I myself even responded to. (She posted her name as Amelia, her name is >actually Carly) She meant no harm, but I explained to her that this an adult >newsgroup and that it contains adult discussions (not to mention some vulgar >language). It never occurred to me that it was my daughter writing the post, >she created another screen name with the help of my other daughter.
I am so sorry that this is your down time, but hope you are not angry with your daughters. They sound very sharp and very caring to have gone to all that trouble — and they did manage to tell you how much they love you, which is the most important thing. It is obvious that you have lost much but also have much. Hope you get to feeling better soon. Lynne * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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>>Sounds to me like you are doing a good job of raising empathetic >and polite children. And for Elaine and those who doubted that >this was a real child, I hope they are know well-chastened and >learn to look at things less cynically. >Josie here……always and ever the cynic
You’re not a cynic. You were right. I didn’t think Kimberly posted to deceive, but I’m sure she did post all the stuff from "Amelia". Additionally, I think she is fully aware of the nature of her difficulty. It sounded to me as if she had the abnormal psychology book open to "depression" and was typing things out as she was reading them. The classic markers were all there- crying all the time, sleeping too much. She even mentioned the inability to feel pleasure. There’s even a word for that…diskenesia. or something like that… oh, ask Kim. It’s in that book she’s been reading. Or who knows, maybe she looked up depression on the web. Depression can be real scary! I’ve heard people say it’s like sinking deeper and deeper into a morass. Plus she has small children. She was very careful to point out that she was still getting the "mom" stuff taken care of, even though it has been difficult this month. She’d pretty much have to add how she’s still taking care of the kids….otherwise, CPS might come knocking at her door! She mentioned also that her husband died. Who WOULDN’T get depressed ?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Kimberly, I read your daughters post, but was just not sure about it, so > did not reply. I am glad to have an answer to the mystery. Your daughter > sounds a wonderful caring girl, you are a lucky Mum. > I am so sorry to hear that your husband died, and it is understandable that > you feel down around his anniversary. Grief is something that doesn’t go > away suddenly. > I remember I was very close to my MIL, she died from cancer when she was > only 48, it was terrible, and naturally we all grieved. I thought I had > come to terms with it, until ten years after her death a friend phoned > asking me to talk to another friend who’s mother had been diagnosed with the > same inoperable cancer. It was amasing, it just brought it all back, and > collecting my thoughts, and thinking about what I would say to this friend, > just had me spiraling into grief again, but I think I came out of it better, > stronger. > Anyway my heart is with you. > Annemarie
Hi Kimberly, I, like Annemarie, read the kids post and wasn’t sure what to think, so after the first 4 posts, I skipped it with no response. I certainly know how we can be affected by losing someone special and extend my sincere sympathy to you & your girls. The two closest people to me are my Mom & my Husband. Their unconditional love is so powerful & special. I lost my Mom 8 years ago on the eve of my birthday. Instead thinking of that as a sad time, I’ve learned to think of it as a special time that she would pass over on a special date to me. Mom felt special to her Dad who ironically passed over on the eve of her birthday. I think of it as a compliment from her, a last was of saying I love you. I still miss her terribly as she was my best friend along with my sweetie pie of 34 years. I’m sure your darling husband is watching over you all from a special place, trying to encourage you to pick up and live a full life. Rest assured that time does heal all & it does get better. Big Hugs, Judy
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My deepest sympathies on your loss, Kimberly….I know how you feel. I lost my husband in ‘98. Feel free to write me if you need to comiserate. A day at a time babe….and sometimes a minute at a time. You are brave and so are your children. Sarah Mom to Kalen (8) and Victoria (4 months)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all, I need to make an apology to the group as a whole. Sometime > yesterday, my youngest daughter sent a post to this newsgroup. It was one that > I myself even responded to. (She posted her name as Amelia, her name is > actually Carly) She meant no harm, but I explained to her that this an adult > newsgroup and that it contains adult discussions (not to mention some vulgar > language). It never occurred to me that it was my daughter writing the post, > she created another screen name with the help of my other daughter. > Along with an apology, I want to thank everyone who replied to my daughter by > email, giving her some sound advice, along with some of the positive posts on > this thread. It is true that I have been somewhat withdrawn lately, but this > time of year is hard for me since my husband died during the month of April. > No, I am not in need of counseling, or medication, I just get down in the dumps > and it passes as quick as it came on. > I am glad that they noticed though. Makes me realize what special girls I > have. > As a regular and long time poster to this newsgroup, I assure you that this > will not happen again. > Sincerely, > Kimberly
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Jude, you are such a nice person. Annemarie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Kimberly, I read your daughters post, but was just not sure about > it, so > did not reply. I am glad to have an answer to the mystery. Your > daughter > sounds a wonderful caring girl, you are a lucky Mum. > I am so sorry to hear that your husband died, and it is > understandable that > you feel down around his anniversary. Grief is something that > doesn’t go > away suddenly. > I remember I was very close to my MIL, she died from cancer when she > was > only 48, it was terrible, and naturally we all grieved. I thought I > had > come to terms with it, until ten years after her death a friend > phoned > asking me to talk to another friend who’s mother had been diagnosed > with the > same inoperable cancer. It was amasing, it just brought it all > back, and > collecting my thoughts, and thinking about what I would say to this > friend, > just had me spiraling into grief again, but I think I came out of it > better, > stronger. > Anyway my heart is with you. > Annemarie > Hi Kimberly, > I, like Annemarie, read the kids post and wasn’t sure what to think, > so after the first 4 posts, I skipped it with no response. I > certainly know how we can be affected by losing someone special and > extend my sincere sympathy to you & your girls. The two closest > people to me are my Mom & my Husband. Their unconditional love is so > powerful & special. I lost my Mom 8 years ago on the eve of my > birthday. Instead thinking of that as a sad time, I’ve learned to > think of it as a special time that she would pass over on a special > date to me. Mom felt special to her Dad who ironically passed over > on the eve of her birthday. I think of it as a compliment from her, a > last was of saying I love you. I still miss her terribly as she was > my best friend along with my sweetie pie of 34 years. I’m sure your > darling husband is watching over you all from a special place, trying > to encourage you to pick up and live a full life. Rest assured that > time does heal all & it does get better. > Big Hugs, Judy
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