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For a naive child say 1 yr old it takes 2500-5000 times of saying and showing them for these children to remember. Remember that they are still forming synaspes in their brain.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I was just thinking about this today. My parents have a very unruly >dog (no puppy, around 2yo) schooled in non-discipline (a method they >learned *after* raising kids) and this afternoon I just got tired of >the loud barking and running around fits, accompanied by sporadic >yelling from the folks, so I went to quiet her down. Just a few >minutes of leading her away from the fence and having her sit quietly, >with three reminders, had her behaving quite well. >My parents were about to hire me out as a dog trainer, but I explained >that it is simple really, just like" training" kids- you lead them >away from obnoxious behaviour, show them what is acceptable and follow >up consistently every time. If only kids were as easy as dogs 
Dogs >definitely learn quicker too (since they don’t argue, talk back or ask >questions 
> Not true of our cat. > Once he discovers that we don’t want him to do something, that > something suddenly becomes part of his play. He seems to make a game > out of almost anything. > Now, there is one of his games that I have to admit to fostering … > cuz I kinda like it: > At night, when I have gotten underssed for bed and am finishing up the > few things that I have to do before getting in bed (like turning off > the heater), he hides in wait, lets me pass, then attacks me from > behind, grabbing my leg. > One of these days, he’s gonna take me "out … down, whatever it is > you do" (From "Independence Day". Kathy watches that movie so often > that I have it almost completely memorized). > — > "Who we are and who we become depends, in part, on who we love." > — _A_General_Theory_Of_Love_ Thanks, Mom
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Aula, Congratulations on the new puppy. Kat got her new kitty for Christmas after begging & pleading. We have the new baby nippy problem also (I’m looking for a file). Now, the new neighborhood girl just got a new puppy. Kat came home & said, "Gram, if our kitty ever dies or has to be put to sleep, can we get a puppy?". To explain that statement, her mom had a cat when she was born & he had to be put to sleep (after several operations) when she was two. She still remembers him. So when she said that, it surprised me & I had to laugh. She was probably hoping I’d say let’s get a puppy too. NOT! It’s better that you walk the puppy & I just keep squirting (spray bottle) the kitty off the table. Hugs, Judy
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We recently got a puppy. It’s a cute thing, growing faster than I could > have imagined. I’ve always had cats before, so this is quite the experience > [hubby is a dog person]. Puppy has been with us all of two weeks. I am > learning a great deal about parenting from Puppy, though. > Some long time ago in another life I remember participating in a > conversation where someone stated that training dogs and raising children is > pretty much the same: consistent, fair, firm limit setting. I agreed, in > theory, having never applied the same to raising a dog. > Now I have DS, age five, and Puppy, age about 11 or 12 weeks. We are doing > the consistent limit setting [etc] to do everything from teaching fetch > [he's getting real good on this one] to stopping the nippy behavior and > several points in between. It is very effective, although curbing the > instinctual behavior like the nippys is a somewhat slower response than the > stuff that is more people applied limits like "sit" and "stay". Anyway, now > I wonder if it is actually easier and faster to train a dog than a child. > The puppy can’t ask why so we circumvent that part of the process! > -Aula, learning to enjoy puppies while keeping the cat mollified
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Not true of our cat. >Once he discovers that we don’t want him to do something, that >something suddenly becomes part of his play. He seems to make a game >out of almost anything. >Now, there is one of his games that I have to admit to fostering … >cuz I kinda like it: >At night, when I have gotten underssed for bed and am finishing up the >few things that I have to do before getting in bed (like turning off >the heater), he hides in wait, lets me pass, then attacks me from >behind, grabbing my leg. >One of these days, he’s gonna take me "out … down, whatever it is >you do" (From "Independence Day". Kathy watches that movie so often >that I have it almost completely memorized).
I’ve always considered cats completely untrainable. They always do their own thing and never seem to care a fig what you want them to do. Perhaps they think they’re training us You’d better watch out if you have stairs! –Lisa Bell –Lisa Bell
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>I’ve always considered cats completely untrainable. They always do >their own thing and never seem to care a fig what you want them to do.
Our previous cat (of just over 20 years) was so well behaved. I "blame" that on Kathy. See, she and the cat were so close that I used to say that the two of them were co-dependant on eachother. It was like neither would do anything almost without the approval of the other. >Perhaps they think they’re training us
Works for me. Now I have 2 masters. >You’d better watch out if you have stairs!
The closest thing that we have (inside the house — the cat never goes outside) is a ladder to get upstairs. He has yet to figure out how to use them. I kinda like it like that. This way I get a little peace. Of course, when I’m upstairs on the computer and he is downstairs alone, he’ll simply find something to play with. Often something *very* large and noisey. He just bats it around until I yell "ALPO!" I can just imagine him slinking off, muttering "Yeah? Just weit until you go to bed tonight, sucka’!" — "Who we are and who we become depends, in part, on who we love." — _A_General_Theory_Of_Love_ Thanks, Mom
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acceptable and follow >up consistently every time. If only kids were as easy as dogs Dogs >definitely learn quicker too (since they don’t argue, talk back or ask >questions > Not true of our cat. > Once he discovers that we don’t want him to do something, that > something suddenly becomes part of his play. He seems to make a game > out of almost anything.
As long as we’re discussing cats and kids, I have to share this little story I got from a friend. Needless to say… our kids are just entering the teen years… and it is SO true! Shelly The cat years: I just realized that while children are dogs – loyal and affectionate – teenagers are cats. It’s so easy to be a dog owner. You feed it, train it, boss it around. It puts it’s head on your knee and gazes at you as if you were a Rembrandt painting. It bounds indoors with enthusiasm when you call it. Then, around age 13, your adoring little puppy turns into a big old cat. When you tell it to come inside, it looks amazed, as if wondering who died and made you emperor. Instead of dogging your doorsteps, it disappears. You won’t see it again until it gets hungry — then it pauses on its sprint through the kitchen long enough to turn its nose up at whatever you’re serving. When you reach out to ruffle its head, in that old affectionate gesture, it twists away from you, then gives you a blank stare, as if trying to remember where it has seen you before. You, not realizing that the dog is now a cat, think something must be desperately wrong with it. It seems so antisocial, so distant, sort of depressed. It won’t go on family outings. Since you’re the one who raised it, taught it to fetch and stay and sit on command, you assume that you did something wrong. Flooded with guilt and fear, you redouble your efforts to make your pet behave. Only now you’re dealing with a cat, so everything that worked before now produces the opposite of the desired result. Call it, and it runs away. Tell it to sit, and it jumps on the counter. The more you go toward it, wringing your hands, the more it moves away. Instead of continuing to act like a dog owner, you can learn to behave like a cat owner. Put a dish of food near the door, and let it come to you. But remember that a cat needs your help and your affection too. Sit still, and it will come, seeking that warm, comforting lap it has not entirely forgotten. Be there to open the door for it. One day your grown-up child will walk into the kitchen, give you a big kiss and say, "You’ve been on your feet all day. Let me get those dishes for you." Then you’ll realize your cat is a dog again.
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The only thing is that you can put a puppy outside and go out for the whole day without worrying about babysitters! lol! You don’t have to take them grocery shopping and they are pretty easily entertained!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We recently got a puppy. It’s a cute thing, growing faster than I could > have imagined. I’ve always had cats before, so this is quite the experience > [hubby is a dog person]. Puppy has been with us all of two weeks. I am > learning a great deal about parenting from Puppy, though. > Some long time ago in another life I remember participating in a > conversation where someone stated that training dogs and raising children is > pretty much the same: consistent, fair, firm limit setting. I agreed, in > theory, having never applied the same to raising a dog. > Now I have DS, age five, and Puppy, age about 11 or 12 weeks. We are doing > the consistent limit setting [etc] to do everything from teaching fetch > [he's getting real good on this one] to stopping the nippy behavior and > several points in between. It is very effective, although curbing the > instinctual behavior like the nippys is a somewhat slower response than the > stuff that is more people applied limits like "sit" and "stay". Anyway, now > I wonder if it is actually easier and faster to train a dog than a child. > The puppy can’t ask why so we circumvent that part of the process! > -Aula, learning to enjoy puppies while keeping the cat mollified
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>I was just thinking about this today. My parents have a very unruly >dog (no puppy, around 2yo) schooled in non-discipline (a method they >learned *after* raising kids) and this afternoon I just got tired of >the loud barking and running around fits, accompanied by sporadic >yelling from the folks, so I went to quiet her down. Just a few >minutes of leading her away from the fence and having her sit quietly, >with three reminders, had her behaving quite well. >My parents were about to hire me out as a dog trainer, but I explained >that it is simple really, just like" training" kids- you lead them >away from obnoxious behaviour, show them what is acceptable and follow >up consistently every time. If only kids were as easy as dogs Dogs >definitely learn quicker too (since they don’t argue, talk back or ask >questions
Not true of our cat. Once he discovers that we don’t want him to do something, that something suddenly becomes part of his play. He seems to make a game out of almost anything. Now, there is one of his games that I have to admit to fostering … cuz I kinda like it: At night, when I have gotten underssed for bed and am finishing up the few things that I have to do before getting in bed (like turning off the heater), he hides in wait, lets me pass, then attacks me from behind, grabbing my leg. One of these days, he’s gonna take me "out … down, whatever it is you do" (From "Independence Day". Kathy watches that movie so often that I have it almost completely memorized). — "Who we are and who we become depends, in part, on who we love." — _A_General_Theory_Of_Love_ Thanks, Mom
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Dogs fit in with human families because their social structure bears a lot of similarity.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We recently got a puppy. It’s a cute thing, growing faster than I could > have imagined. I’ve always had cats before, so this is quite the experience > [hubby is a dog person]. Puppy has been with us all of two weeks. I am > learning a great deal about parenting from Puppy, though. > Some long time ago in another life I remember participating in a > conversation where someone stated that training dogs and raising children is > pretty much the same: consistent, fair, firm limit setting. I agreed, in > theory, having never applied the same to raising a dog. > Now I have DS, age five, and Puppy, age about 11 or 12 weeks. We are doing > the consistent limit setting [etc] to do everything from teaching fetch > [he's getting real good on this one] to stopping the nippy behavior and > several points in between. It is very effective, although curbing the > instinctual behavior like the nippys is a somewhat slower response than the > stuff that is more people applied limits like "sit" and "stay". Anyway, now > I wonder if it is actually easier and faster to train a dog than a child. > The puppy can’t ask why so we circumvent that part of the process! > -Aula, learning to enjoy puppies while keeping the cat mollified
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True, Our dogs and Geran never had a problem, if Geran starts annoying McLeod he just sighs and moves out the way.. There are a lot of similarities in raising I reckon.. So long, and thanx for all the fish Visit my website at x-stream.fortunecity.com/elmst/41
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I was just thinking about this today. My parents have a very unruly dog (no puppy, around 2yo) schooled in non-discipline (a method they learned *after* raising kids) and this afternoon I just got tired of the loud barking and running around fits, accompanied by sporadic yelling from the folks, so I went to quiet her down. Just a few minutes of leading her away from the fence and having her sit quietly, with three reminders, had her behaving quite well. My parents were about to hire me out as a dog trainer, but I explained that it is simple really, just like" training" kids- you lead them away from obnoxious behaviour, show them what is acceptable and follow up consistently every time. If only kids were as easy as dogs Dogs definitely learn quicker too (since they don’t argue, talk back or ask questions –Lisa Bell – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->We recently got a puppy. It’s a cute thing, growing faster than I could >have imagined. I’ve always had cats before, so this is quite the experience >[hubby is a dog person]. Puppy has been with us all of two weeks. I am >learning a great deal about parenting from Puppy, though. >Some long time ago in another life I remember participating in a >conversation where someone stated that training dogs and raising children is >pretty much the same: consistent, fair, firm limit setting. I agreed, in >theory, having never applied the same to raising a dog. >Now I have DS, age five, and Puppy, age about 11 or 12 weeks. We are doing >the consistent limit setting [etc] to do everything from teaching fetch >[he's getting real good on this one] to stopping the nippy behavior and >several points in between. It is very effective, although curbing the >instinctual behavior like the nippys is a somewhat slower response than the >stuff that is more people applied limits like "sit" and "stay". Anyway, now >I wonder if it is actually easier and faster to train a dog than a child. >The puppy can’t ask why so we circumvent that part of the process! >-Aula, learning to enjoy puppies while keeping the cat mollified
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We recently got a puppy. It’s a cute thing, growing faster than I could have imagined. I’ve always had cats before, so this is quite the experience [hubby is a dog person]. Puppy has been with us all of two weeks. I am learning a great deal about parenting from Puppy, though. Some long time ago in another life I remember participating in a conversation where someone stated that training dogs and raising children is pretty much the same: consistent, fair, firm limit setting. I agreed, in theory, having never applied the same to raising a dog. Now I have DS, age five, and Puppy, age about 11 or 12 weeks. We are doing the consistent limit setting [etc] to do everything from teaching fetch [he's getting real good on this one] to stopping the nippy behavior and several points in between. It is very effective, although curbing the instinctual behavior like the nippys is a somewhat slower response than the stuff that is more people applied limits like "sit" and "stay". Anyway, now I wonder if it is actually easier and faster to train a dog than a child. The puppy can’t ask why so we circumvent that part of the process! -Aula, learning to enjoy puppies while keeping the cat mollified
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