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A funny anecdote to this portion of the thread, …. My friend havning a several 100 acre ranch here in San Antonio taught his little boy to "pee" in the great out doors telling him "pee on that bush, get it.!!" Of course he thought it was a wonderful game and he learned very quickly. Then one night the young man came down in the wee hours (pun intended 
and "wanted out" with the cat, dog and other critters. It took a while to teach him that if inside the potty would do if there wasn’t a bush handy. > My friend’s son refused to use the toilet also – she ended up tearing up > bits of paper, rolling them into balls and dropping them into the toilet > bowl. This encouraged her son to try and sink the ships by weeing on them. > Sounds kinda weird but it worked! > Jackie > Mum to Zac and Alix
– Bruce T. Wilson Christian / AANR Frame-Up Photography San Antonio, TX http://frameup.home.texas.net (2 Tim 1:7 KJV) For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
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>Brenda – I have a suggestion for you since your daughter is 22 months old >you may want to try to teach her to use the potty and see if your son >just follows… just a thought….. It might take some of the pressure >off of your son. >Karla
That’s what I’ve been thinking as well. So far, I can get Kelly to sit on it for about 30 seconds, but when she gets up, I always ask Robert if he’d like to try..I still get the "uh uh" and vigorous head shaking. Maybe once I get Kelly to DO something and make a big deal out of it, he’ll want to try. I think he knows what hes supposed to do, but he’s either afraid of it, or afraid of a loss of attention or something. I’ll keep trying though.
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My friend’s son refused to use the toilet also – she ended up tearing up bits of paper, rolling them into balls and dropping them into the toilet bowl. This encouraged her son to try and sink the ships by weeing on them. Sounds kinda weird but it worked! Jackie Mum to Zac and Alix
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You can also use Cheerios. I had a friend that did that. But I would be afraid my kid would try to eat them out of the toilet! lol If you really want to go high end on the "sinkables" some of the children’s catalogs carry paper targets that you can put in the toilet. Just more info. Not saying run out and buy some. But with this stuff you can’t get too many suggestions! Sharon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >My friend’s son refused to use the toilet also – she ended up tearing up >bits of paper, rolling them into balls and dropping them into the toilet >bowl. This encouraged her son to try and sink the ships by weeing on them. >Sounds kinda weird but it worked! >Jackie >Mum to Zac and Alix
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says… > I can relate to this. My son is 3.5, and I still can’t get him potty > trained. We’ve even tried the cloth training pants..he wets them and > just doesn’t care. I’ve tried the ‘big boy’ approach, and every other > idea I’ve come across except for the going naked thing. That’s not > real practical right now, as we are in winter AND I have a 22 month > old daughter. The biggest problem? He cries like he’s being punished > or something if I put him on the potty (we’ve tried 2 training pottys > and the big potty,.. same reaction. A lot of it is that he just > doesn’t want to have to stop what he’s doing to go sit on the potty. > We think SOME of it may be due to his baby sister, and the fear that > he won’t be the ‘baby’ anymore if he’s out of diapers.
Brenda – I have a suggestion for you since your daughter is 22 months old you may want to try to teach her to use the potty and see if your son just follows… just a thought….. It might take some of the pressure off of your son. Karla
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>In response to realmom’s general tone that a child who isn’t potty trained >by a certain age has slipshod parenting – this is being VERY judgmental. >There are many children, especially highly active boys, who aren’t trained >until they are 4 years old or even a little older.
I can relate to this. My son is 3.5, and I still can’t get him potty trained. We’ve even tried the cloth training pants..he wets them and just doesn’t care. I’ve tried the ‘big boy’ approach, and every other idea I’ve come across except for the going naked thing. That’s not real practical right now, as we are in winter AND I have a 22 month old daughter. The biggest problem? He cries like he’s being punished or something if I put him on the potty (we’ve tried 2 training pottys and the big potty,.. same reaction. A lot of it is that he just doesn’t want to have to stop what he’s doing to go sit on the potty. We think SOME of it may be due to his baby sister, and the fear that he won’t be the ‘baby’ anymore if he’s out of diapers. >I think you need to learn that you cannot judge all children and parents by >your own situation – girls are different than boys, and all children mature >and develop in different ways. >Heidi
Quite true…I’ve read many articles and heard from several parents whos boys weren’t trained till they were nearly 4.
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I would think so too. However, I only have experience with one who was "trained" at 2. I would love to see the studies on this and if the effect of later training is insignificant or deleterious. I am guessing that things would come out on the side of the former, but who knows. Not that I believe that Psychology has all the answers for us anyway. C. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I would think a 3.5 year old should already be potty trained. > Mom of 2
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In response to realmom’s general tone that a child who isn’t potty trained by a certain age has slipshod parenting – this is being VERY judgmental. There are many children, especially highly active boys, who aren’t trained until they are 4 years old or even a little older. My own kid (3.5 yo boy) can physically use the potty, but he’s having trouble giving up the security of diapers. He has, from birth, been a very high needs child, slow to adapt to changes and it’s very difficult for him to make transitions of any kind. (sleep to wake, wake to sleep, pajamas to clothes, crib to bed etc…). I think you need to learn that you cannot judge all children and parents by your own situation – girls are different than boys, and all children mature and develop in different ways. Heidi
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That’s helpful. –Janet – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I would think a 3.5 year old should already be potty trained. >Mom of 2
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>That’s helpful. >–Janet >I would think a 3.5 year old should already be potty trained. >Mom of 2
Quote from the real Mel Brooks having to do with potty training. For Kathy and Janet. Latrine: My family changed its name to Latrine over 14 generations ago. It was a good change. Prince John: That’s a good change? Latrine: It USED to be SHITHOUSE! [Before riding the bicycle] Etta: Do you know what you’re doing? Butch: Theoretically.
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Angel here, dreading doing it all again with #3 My daughter trained in 3 days. She wore panties, wet once, pooped on the floor once, held it for 3 days and then went and was trained. (we did have the occasional accident when asleep) My son took 6 months. He wasn’t interested but I wouldn’t do 2 in diapers. he just went in his underwear. bare-tail was fine (embarrassed the preacher on the home visit), but he wouldn’t go. After Jon came, he figured it out (after a brief regression). My advice, carry lots of clean clothes, plus plastic bags for storage. Angel
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>I have discovered that as long as my 3.5 yo son’s bottom is naked, he does >all his stuff in the potty by himself. As soon as he has a pull-up or >underwear on, back he goes to wetting or soiling himself. What do I do about >this? Do I keep him naked as much as possible? Does this mean that >eventually he will learn not to wet himself? >Thank you. >Heidi
I did this. In the beginning I would let him wander around the house without pullups or underwear. It did seem to make it a little easier. He eventually decided he didn’t like not wearing something and after a few accidents it was underwear all the time. What it did do was get him used to going and sitting on his little potty by himself. I think that made a big difference. Kendra — http://members.aol.com/klussery (New Links!) — "If a man speaks in a forest, and there isn’t a woman around to hear him: Is he still wrong?" —
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When my daughter got trained {2.5 years of age} She was trained in less than a week. This is how I did it. I started at the age of two she was terribly disagreeable and did not want to do it at all. Worried that she would hurt her insides by holding it in and never going I let it go. Then when she was 2.5 I gave it another go. I didn’t go anywhere {shopping etc} and concentrated only on her training. It was summer so it was very easy to just let her run around in panties and a t-shirt. She hated the feeling of soiled panties and after two days of doing it like this she went into the bathroom while me and hubby were lighting the barbequer and she came out and said "I did it I did it" Sure enough, she did. And after that she didn’t have any accidents and loved the fact that we went out and shopped for her very own panties. That was one of the things I told her "when you go all by yourself we’ll go out and you can pick out the kind of panties you like" She loved that idea and now at 4 years of age still loves underwear shopping. She had one accident after her training, she went #1 in her pants because I was stuck on the freeway and couldnt find a restroom in time. But other than that incident that was the only one. Rewards and praise work wonders. So does the "nonfettered" approach of panties and t shirt. We are expecting our second {a boy} and hopefully it will be just as easy if not easier second time around. Good luck! Laura {24} Wife to John,Mother to Melyssa{4} and Alexander {due March1999} Poet,Legend, priestess of nothing
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>We are expecting our second {a boy} and > hopefully it will be just as easy if not > easier second time around.
Jan responds: HEE HEE HEE… you’ll find out soon enough!!! ~Jan (mother of Samantha, Sarah, and Alexander, who is finally potty trained, but on his OWN terms and in his OWN time)
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I would think a 3.5 year old should already be potty trained. Mom of 2
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> I have discovered that as long as my 3.5 yo son’s bottom is naked, he does > all his stuff in the potty by himself. As soon as he has a pull-up or > underwear on, back he goes to wetting or soiling himself. What do I do about > this? Do I keep him naked as much as possible? Does this mean that > eventually he will learn not to wet himself? > Thank you. > Heidi
My middle daughter was a little bit slower to get interested in potty training. It didn’t seem to bother her if she was wet and if I put on training pants, it still didn’t seem to bother her much. But I discovered that she hated it to run down her leg. So for a day or so, I just let her run around the house that way. She did the same as your son. It didn’t take her long to train though so I didn’t have to stay in much. If your son doesn’t seem to be making any progress after a couple of days in and out of pull-ups or pants, you might want to take a week and not go anywhere. Then let him run around naked and my guess is that by the end of the week, he will be trained. If during that time he asks to go somewhere, tell him that you can only go if he tells you when he has to go potty and he stays dry. If he does, you’re set. If he doesn’t, you could either leave where you are when he wets OR just start over with him naked at home.
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I have discovered that as long as my 3.5 yo son’s bottom is naked, he does all his stuff in the potty by himself. As soon as he has a pull-up or underwear on, back he goes to wetting or soiling himself. What do I do about this? Do I keep him naked as much as possible? Does this mean that eventually he will learn not to wet himself? Thank you. Heidi
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Many of the new diapers don’t give enough "feedback" for the toddler to learn. Our oldest was in this same situation, so we went out and got some good old fashioned cloth training pants. Much more work in the washing department, but she clicked shortly there after. There must be something to this as the diaper companies came out with a "nearly dry" training pant, I guess so they can answer to the issue and still maintain a grip on our dollars. > I have discovered that as long as my 3.5 yo son’s bottom is naked, he does > all his stuff in the potty by himself. As soon as he has a pull-up or > underwear on, back he goes to wetting or soiling himself. What do I do about > this? Do I keep him naked as much as possible? Does this mean that > eventually he will learn not to wet himself? > Thank you. > Heidi
– Bruce T. Wilson Christian / AANR Frame-Up Photography San Antonio, TX http://frameup.home.texas.net (2 Tim 1:7 KJV) For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
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