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> Not THIS loser Troll again.
Actually new research which supports this was just released. See below: Steve 07/28/00 By Paul Recer ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON — For years, doctors operated on premature babies without anesthesia in the belief that even if the infants felt the pain, they would not remember it. New research with rats suggests that the body does remember the pain and is forever changed. A study using newborn rats at the National Institutes of Health found that painful trauma that mimics medical procedures commonly performed on premature infants caused the rats to become much more sensitive to pain as they grew older. The reason is that pain causes the developing nervous system of the very young to grow more nerve cells that carry the sensation of pain to the brain, NIH researcher M.A. Ruda said. ”We found that there are more nerve endings that fire and transmit the (pain) information," said Ruda, the first author of a study appearing today in the journal Science. "These animals later were more sensitive and had a greater response to pain." Ruda said the study only suggests what may happen in premature infants. ”This is animal research so one has to be cautious in extrapolating to humans," she said. "But we use these animals as models of pain and they have been very valid for predicting the responses that one sees in humans." The study is part of a continuing effort by medical science to understand how and when the nervous system develops and how the growth of nerve tissue is affected by stimulation, such as pain. Such research has a direct bearing on efforts to save and improve the lives of infants born prematurely, before the normal 40-week gestation. Survival of babies born up to 15 weeks premature is now not unusual, but it takes a major medical effort and many painful procedures, including countless needle sticks, breathing tubes and even surgery. Just how much pain such babies feel has been uncertain, said Patricia A. McGrath, a pain researcher and professor of pediatrics at the University of Western Ontario, who was not a member of the Ruda research team. Ten years ago, she said, "there was a real belief that the pain system in premature babies was not developed and these infants would really not feel as much pain." More important, McGrath said, doctors had concerns that premature infants given powerful anesthetics "would not be able to clear the drug as well as older infants." The choice sometimes was between skipping anesthesia during lifesaving surgery or passing on any therapy. Most doctors chose life and hoped that the pain caused no lasting effect. But Ruda said that the study in rats suggests there is a lasting effect, a change in the nervous system caused by the trauma. If this conclusion is the same in humans, she said, it could mean that premature infants who endured pain of major medical therapies may have a sharpened sensitivity to pain all their lives. In the study, Ruda and her colleagues injected an irritant that causes pain into the left rear paw of day-old rats. Lab rats at that age are in the same development stage as human babies born at 25 weeks of gestation. The paws were sore for several days before healing. Later, when the rats were grown, the researchers tested their perception of pain by exposing the treated paw to heat. In effect, the test was to see how fast the animals would withdraw from a hot surface. Their reaction time was compared with that of control rats that had not been treated. Ruda said the treated rats reacted to the heat about twice as fast as the control rats. When the heat test was administered on the right, or untreated paw, of the test rats, they reacted just as did the control rats. This suggested that the painful trauma early in life had made the treated paw much more sensitive to pain. Microscopic examination of nerves in the animals showed why, Ruda said. Nerves leading from the treated paw were much more dense than were the nerves in the untreated paw or in control animals, she said. The increased density means there were more nerve circuits to carry pain stimuli to the brain, Ruda said. Ruda said other studies have shown that premature babies tend to report more pain in their childhood years and their parents report that these children’s pain response is greater than their siblings’. Jonelle C. Rowe, an NIH doctor who specializes in treating premature babies, said surgery without anesthesia was rare. Even now, procedure such as insertion of a breathing tube, which require painkillers in adults, are done without anesthesia in premature babies. ”We use anesthesia as well as we can in these babies," Rowe said. A major research effort is under way to find the best way to safely relieve medical procedure pain in the very young, she said.
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Not THIS loser Troll again.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Neurological Disorders and Circumcision > Research information is now available that shows that the development of complex > and intricate neural pathways in the brain of the baby is one of the keys to > intelligence (see Chakras – http://www.universalway.org/chakras.html and Brain > Research Summary – http://www.parentinginformation.org/brain.htm and Brain – > http://www.ecsd.com/~rhhedgz1/brain.html ). These neural pathways are the > highways that the chemical transmitters follow in the brain as it searches for > information on a specific subject to return back to the main memory section of > the brain for processing. The more complex and intricate these neural pathways, > the easier and faster it is for a brain to process information. > Conversely, it has also been discovered that traumatic stress that occurs to a > baby while in the womb, or to a newborn baby, can be correspondingly destructive > to the development of neural pathways, and destructive to the neural pathways > that have already been developed, potentially resulting in the development of > many different types of neurological disorders. In fact, a general pattern can > be discerned from this area of research, that being that love and beauty > tendered to a baby while in the womb or newly born, can result in the > development of complex and intricate neural pathways in the brain of the baby, > which is a key to the potential intelligence of the baby as it grows into a > child; conversely, hate and pain inflicted upon a baby while in the womb or when > newly born, can result in the destruction of already existing neural pathways, > which is a key to the development of different types of neurological disorders. > In early March of 1999, the American Academy of Pediatrics announced that they > had concluded that there is no weight of medical evidence in favor of routine > neonatal male infant circumcision and that babies being circumcised actually DO > feel the pain ( http://www.aap.org/advocacy/archives/marcircum.htm – AAP > Circumcision Policy Statement (RE9850) –
http://www.aap.org/policy/re9850.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ). Because of this, the AAP claimed, they would no longer recommend circumcision > as a routine neonatal operation, and have now stated that circumcision should be > an "ethical" choice. > "The Jews are more subject to diseases of the nervous system than the other > races and peoples among which they dwell. Hysteria and neurasthenia appear to be > most frequent. Some physicians of large experience among the Jews have even gone > so far as to state that most of them are neurasthenic and hysterical." (The > Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. IX, (1905), p. 225). > "Idiocy and imbecility are found comparatively more often among Jews than among > non-Jews…The Mongolian type of idiocy is also very frequently observed among > Jews…Among the Jews the proportion of insane has been observed to be very > large…Jews are more liable to acute psychoses of early age than are non-Jews." > (The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. VI, (1904), p. 556, 603-04. > By using simple logic in analyzing the matter, it can be suspected that autism > could be related to the imposition of the practice of infant circumcision, and > such an observation could be made if a pattern was found which indicated a > substantially greater number of circumcised boys in the United States of America > are victims of autism than are little girls. If this is true, then autism is > apparently the response of a baby to the terrible pain which has been inflicted > upon them during the early days of life in this world by the people around them > whom they identify as the perpetrators of the act, thus causing a separation and > a withdrawal away from those people and that world which inflicted the terrible > pain on the baby. > Autism Society of America – > http://www.autism-society.org/ – > "What is Autism? Autism is a complex developmental disability that typically > appears during the first three years of life. The result of a neurological > disorder that affects the functioning of the brain, autism and its associated > behaviors have been estimated to occur in as many as 1 in 500 individuals > (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 1997). Autism is four times more > prevalent in boys than girls and knows no racial, ethnic, or social boundaries. > Family income, lifestyle, and educational levels do not affect the chance of > autism’s occurrence." > "Autism impacts the normal development of the brain in the areas of social > interaction and communication skills. Children and adults with autism typically > have difficulties in verbal and non-verbal communication, social interactions, > and leisure or play activities. The disorder makes it hard for them to > communicate with others and relate to the outside world. In some cases, > aggressive and/or self-injurious behavior may be present. Persons with autism > may exhibit repeated body movements (hand flapping, rocking), unusual responses > to people or attachments to objects and resistance to changes in routines. > Individuals may also experience sensitivities in the five senses of sight, > hearing, touch, smell, and taste." > "Over one half million people in the U.S. today have autism or some form of > pervasive developmental disorder. Its prevalence rate makes autism one of the > most common developmental disabilities. Yet most of the public, including many > professionals in the medical, educational, and vocational fields, are still > unaware of how autism affects people and how they can effectively work with > individuals with autism." > **Ooops . . . Wrong Planet! Syndrome – > http://www.isn.net/~jypsy/ > While perusing some of the above materials, a correlation to male infant > circumcision can initially be made when it is discovered that Autism is four > times more prevalent in boys than girls, and such a corollary might be valuable > to modern-day unbiased research which could begin with the question; "In the > womb and after birth, how are autistic children being treated mentally, > physically, and spiritually, what types of experiences are they receiving since > their conception, and what is being done to them that could cause them any sort > of neurological disease?" Claims by some people that such links to the origin of > autism have in the past been disproven by medical science, cannot be accepted as > valid when the related research has been performed by the same individuals and > organizations that have been long-time supporters of infant circumcision. > Furthermore, recent concerns about corrupted vaccinations being the root cause > of autism seems to be misleading information perhaps designed to direct > researchers away from certain areas of research (are four times more baby boys > vaccinated than are baby girls?). And while it is not wise to assert that > circumcision is the root cause of autism, it is just as wise to suspect that the > evidence points in the direction of one of the true physical, mental, and > spiritual causes. > On page 214 of "The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia" (Universal Jewish > Encyclopedia, Inc., 1939), the following is found; > "The circumcision rite consists of the following: 1. milah, cutting off the end > of the upper prepuce; 2. periah, baring the glans by tearing or cutting the > tender lower prepuce and pushing it behind the glans; 3. metzitzah, the sucking > of the wound, to staunch the blood, by means of the mouth, as practiced in > earlier times, or by means of a suction cylinder or other modern methods in more > recent times." > On page/column 572 in Volume V of "Encyclopedia Judaica" (Keter Publishing > House, 1971), the following is found; > "The next stage is the performance of mezizah (’suction’). This has led to much > controversy in recent years. Throughout the ages this was done by suction by the > mouth in order, according to Maimonides, to remove the blood from the distant > parts of the wound (Maim. Yad, Milah, 2:2). It was the recognized method of > disinfection at the time. A mohel who refrained from performing it was > considered to be endangering the life of the child, and had to be debarred from > practice. Toward the middle of the 19th and the beginning of the 20th century > cases of syphilis, tuberculosis, and diphtheria occurring in infants were > ascribed to infection from mohalim using this method of suction. This has been > contested by a few Jewish doctors, and some communities still follow the > original practice. The Paris Consistoire abolished mezizah in 1843." > On page 167 of "Encyclopedia of Judaism" (Jerusalem Publishing House, Ltd., > 1989), the following is found; > "The circumcision itself takes only a few seconds, and is performed by a > circumciser (mohel). Formerly the blood was drawn orally by the mohel but now an > instrument is used." > An interesting addition is found on page/column 570-571 in Volume V of the > aforementioned "Encyclopedia Judaica"; > "In 1843 the clerical leaders of the reform movement in Frankfort sought to > abolish circumcision among their adherents; the controversy concerning its > necessity in Judaism lasted for 20 years and eventually spread to America. They > based their objections to circumcision on five reasons: (1) It was commanded to > Abraham and not to Moses. It is not distinctive of Israel since it is also > practiced by descendants of Ishmael; (2) It is mentioned only once in the Mosaic > law; it is not repeated in Deuteronomy; (3) Moses did not circumcise his own > son; (4) The generation of the desert was not circumcised; (5) There is no > initiation of daughters into Judaism. All these were answered by Orthodox > rabbinical authorities. To counter this agitation, Leopold Zunz wrote his essay > on circumcision (Gutachten ueber die Beschneidung,
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Neurological Disorders and Circumcision Research information is now available that shows that the development of complex and intricate neural pathways in the brain of the baby is one of the keys to intelligence (see Chakras – http://www.universalway.org/chakras.html and Brain Research Summary – http://www.parentinginformation.org/brain.htm and Brain – http://www.ecsd.com/~rhhedgz1/brain.html ). These neural pathways are the highways that the chemical transmitters follow in the brain as it searches for information on a specific subject to return back to the main memory section of the brain for processing. The more complex and intricate these neural pathways, the easier and faster it is for a brain to process information. Conversely, it has also been discovered that traumatic stress that occurs to a baby while in the womb, or to a newborn baby, can be correspondingly destructive to the development of neural pathways, and destructive to the neural pathways that have already been developed, potentially resulting in the development of many different types of neurological disorders. In fact, a general pattern can be discerned from this area of research, that being that love and beauty tendered to a baby while in the womb or newly born, can result in the development of complex and intricate neural pathways in the brain of the baby, which is a key to the potential intelligence of the baby as it grows into a child; conversely, hate and pain inflicted upon a baby while in the womb or when newly born, can result in the destruction of already existing neural pathways, which is a key to the development of different types of neurological disorders. In early March of 1999, the American Academy of Pediatrics announced that they had concluded that there is no weight of medical evidence in favor of routine neonatal male infant circumcision and that babies being circumcised actually DO feel the pain ( http://www.aap.org/advocacy/archives/marcircum.htm – AAP Circumcision Policy Statement (RE9850) – http://www.aap.org/policy/re9850.html ). Because of this, the AAP claimed, they would no longer recommend circumcision as a routine neonatal operation, and have now stated that circumcision should be an "ethical" choice. "The Jews are more subject to diseases of the nervous system than the other races and peoples among which they dwell. Hysteria and neurasthenia appear to be most frequent. Some physicians of large experience among the Jews have even gone so far as to state that most of them are neurasthenic and hysterical." (The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. IX, (1905), p. 225). "Idiocy and imbecility are found comparatively more often among Jews than among non-Jews…The Mongolian type of idiocy is also very frequently observed among Jews…Among the Jews the proportion of insane has been observed to be very large…Jews are more liable to acute psychoses of early age than are non-Jews." (The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. VI, (1904), p. 556, 603-04. By using simple logic in analyzing the matter, it can be suspected that autism could be related to the imposition of the practice of infant circumcision, and such an observation could be made if a pattern was found which indicated a substantially greater number of circumcised boys in the United States of America are victims of autism than are little girls. If this is true, then autism is apparently the response of a baby to the terrible pain which has been inflicted upon them during the early days of life in this world by the people around them whom they identify as the perpetrators of the act, thus causing a separation and a withdrawal away from those people and that world which inflicted the terrible pain on the baby. Autism Society of America – http://www.autism-society.org/ – "What is Autism? Autism is a complex developmental disability that typically appears during the first three years of life. The result of a neurological disorder that affects the functioning of the brain, autism and its associated behaviors have been estimated to occur in as many as 1 in 500 individuals (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 1997). Autism is four times more prevalent in boys than girls and knows no racial, ethnic, or social boundaries. Family income, lifestyle, and educational levels do not affect the chance of autism’s occurrence." "Autism impacts the normal development of the brain in the areas of social interaction and communication skills. Children and adults with autism typically have difficulties in verbal and non-verbal communication, social interactions, and leisure or play activities. The disorder makes it hard for them to communicate with others and relate to the outside world. In some cases, aggressive and/or self-injurious behavior may be present. Persons with autism may exhibit repeated body movements (hand flapping, rocking), unusual responses to people or attachments to objects and resistance to changes in routines. Individuals may also experience sensitivities in the five senses of sight, hearing, touch, smell, and taste." "Over one half million people in the U.S. today have autism or some form of pervasive developmental disorder. Its prevalence rate makes autism one of the most common developmental disabilities. Yet most of the public, including many professionals in the medical, educational, and vocational fields, are still unaware of how autism affects people and how they can effectively work with individuals with autism." **Ooops . . . Wrong Planet! Syndrome – http://www.isn.net/~jypsy/ While perusing some of the above materials, a correlation to male infant circumcision can initially be made when it is discovered that Autism is four times more prevalent in boys than girls, and such a corollary might be valuable to modern-day unbiased research which could begin with the question; "In the womb and after birth, how are autistic children being treated mentally, physically, and spiritually, what types of experiences are they receiving since their conception, and what is being done to them that could cause them any sort of neurological disease?" Claims by some people that such links to the origin of autism have in the past been disproven by medical science, cannot be accepted as valid when the related research has been performed by the same individuals and organizations that have been long-time supporters of infant circumcision. Furthermore, recent concerns about corrupted vaccinations being the root cause of autism seems to be misleading information perhaps designed to direct researchers away from certain areas of research (are four times more baby boys vaccinated than are baby girls?). And while it is not wise to assert that circumcision is the root cause of autism, it is just as wise to suspect that the evidence points in the direction of one of the true physical, mental, and spiritual causes. On page 214 of "The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia" (Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Inc., 1939), the following is found; "The circumcision rite consists of the following: 1. milah, cutting off the end of the upper prepuce; 2. periah, baring the glans by tearing or cutting the tender lower prepuce and pushing it behind the glans; 3. metzitzah, the sucking of the wound, to staunch the blood, by means of the mouth, as practiced in earlier times, or by means of a suction cylinder or other modern methods in more recent times." On page/column 572 in Volume V of "Encyclopedia Judaica" (Keter Publishing House, 1971), the following is found; "The next stage is the performance of mezizah (’suction’). This has led to much controversy in recent years. Throughout the ages this was done by suction by the mouth in order, according to Maimonides, to remove the blood from the distant parts of the wound (Maim. Yad, Milah, 2:2). It was the recognized method of disinfection at the time. A mohel who refrained from performing it was considered to be endangering the life of the child, and had to be debarred from practice. Toward the middle of the 19th and the beginning of the 20th century cases of syphilis, tuberculosis, and diphtheria occurring in infants were ascribed to infection from mohalim using this method of suction. This has been contested by a few Jewish doctors, and some communities still follow the original practice. The Paris Consistoire abolished mezizah in 1843." On page 167 of "Encyclopedia of Judaism" (Jerusalem Publishing House, Ltd., 1989), the following is found; "The circumcision itself takes only a few seconds, and is performed by a circumciser (mohel). Formerly the blood was drawn orally by the mohel but now an instrument is used." An interesting addition is found on page/column 570-571 in Volume V of the aforementioned "Encyclopedia Judaica"; "In 1843 the clerical leaders of the reform movement in Frankfort sought to abolish circumcision among their adherents; the controversy concerning its necessity in Judaism lasted for 20 years and eventually spread to America. They based their objections to circumcision on five reasons: (1) It was commanded to Abraham and not to Moses. It is not distinctive of Israel since it is also practiced by descendants of Ishmael; (2) It is mentioned only once in the Mosaic law; it is not repeated in Deuteronomy; (3) Moses did not circumcise his own son; (4) The generation of the desert was not circumcised; (5) There is no initiation of daughters into Judaism. All these were answered by Orthodox rabbinical authorities. To counter this agitation, Leopold Zunz wrote his essay on circumcision (Gutachten ueber die Beschneidung, Frankfort, 1844). Today, most Reform Jews have their children circumcised." It is noted here that in the "New Standard Encyclopedia of Judaism" (Facts on File, Inc., 1992), no mention at all is made of the mezizah, and it will be observed that the more modern the reference edition used, the less that is disclosed about the practice of the mezizah. However, all of the above information is easily found in the reference … read more »
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