Pure Parents

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> > That is all well and good Steve  but… > have you seen my boobs? > Loev, > Big Poopa Pump > No, but I’ve seen a lot of them. Why would yours be so notable? > Steve

Poopie’s a hotty…  (o)(o) ~Bethany

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > (snipped most for brevity) > Ask your husbands ladies, that is the >nature of it!!! > Actually…..Sarah…. I *did* ask my husband. He said that the men you speak > of are not representative of the ones *he’s* known and worked along side of. He > said that yes, women who dress like a whore will stop a board meeting flat, > alright, but only because everyone is stunned, uncomfortable or just plain > eye-balling her. He also said EXACTLY what Liz said (I think it was filthy > trash about her. They do not respect a woman who dresses like this > anywhere…….and he said that they respect a woman even less who’d show up at > work like this.

hehe….I am still waiting for someone to produce *The Guide to Dressing Like A Whore*.  Are we talking a $50 whore or a $5000 whore?  One outfit owned by a high class call girl probably costs more than what most of us make in a year. Your arcaic language and attitude was already addressed in my previous post. I am so sorry that your feminitity frightens you so much …..even more sorry that sensual dressing frightens you even more…. Hiding behind your husband is a little arcaic too, doncha think?….and if you a’int your husband’s sex Goddess and his personal representative of all things Woman, then thats pretty fucking sad (but then again, who could possibly compete with the Blessed Virgin)…..nice try on the snipping Josie. Your husband forgets that respect in the workplace comes from doing a job well done in a compentant fashion and is earned.  All of the men I have known in the workplace had jobs that kept them working, not flapping their gums….most of the *idle* gossip came from overweight, self conscience and jealous little biddies with nothing more to do with there time.  Then again, I worked with property managers, engineers, architects and programmers…..so my scope of experience might be limited. Sarah > I know that when I was waitressing……I saw a *clear* difference in the way > that the men customers treated the less modestly dressed waitresses. They > talked down to them….were condescending….much more likely to touch > them…..harrass them…..call them honey and baby and whatnot. As I was nearby > working my own tables….I also heard the sickening remarks they’d make after > these girls left. Those girls were *not* treated with

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> the ones who dressed decently were treated with much, much more respect. > Your points about rape however….I agree with. I believe (so does dh) that > rape is about power, control and intimidation though, not about sex……so how > one dresses has nothing to do with rape. > I do disagree with most of the rest of your post though….as does dh. How one > dresses in their own home, with their own husband has no bearing whatsoever on > how one dresses when one is in public though. Nor does someone else’s > *supposed* show of respect to someone dressed in such an inappropriate manner > necessarily mean that that person really respects her. Might just mean that the > person is too polite to say or show what he really thinks to her > face……which would explain why so many trash these women when they aren’t > around. > And one can and should teach their daughters about safety, love and confidence > in *all* things woman……while still teaching them to dress decently and > appropriately for different situations and settings. Celebrating womanhood is > great……but one can be a helluva sexy woman while remaining a lady as well. > JMO. > Josie

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>> Hey, Sarah, doncha find that the Steve hat binds a bit? >naaah, he and I might agree alot about sexuality but we differ alot as well. >I wouldn’t, for instance, be thrilled if my 11 year old was having sex.

Ya know, I would neither be thrilled nor pleased.  I figure that it is their decision, as long as it is not forced or coerced. > Actually, I liked your post, too. > Tall redhead, huh? >Compliments of Loreal hair color…*S*

DARN! The problem that I have with most bottled hair colors is that (unless the color is selected so that it works well with the natural color) it looks like spray paint.  One solid color and totally lacking the differences in natural color. Well, one has to take what is available, I guess. >  6-5 in heels? > Be my friend? >I’ll be your friend, but got plenty of stuff to stare at on the net that far >better qualifies for fantasy material than I do.

As an OldGai ™, most of that stuff would kill me. The unobtainable is better for my health. — Do not underestimate your abilities.  That is your boss’s job. It is your job to find ways around your boss’s roadblocks.

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> (snipped most for brevity) > Ask your husbands ladies, that is the >nature of it!!! > Actually…..Sarah…. I *did* ask my husband. He said that the men you speak > of are not representative of the ones *he’s* known and worked along side of.

Nonsense. Men say that to women like you to placate them, and they never actually respect little prudish cunts who whine about morality. Many men have heard this crap from some women enough that they decide they are not even worth talking to!! They have NO compunction about lying with perfect justification, because to them such prudes are just cows. Steve

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I liked your post too Sarah. You brought up some really good points. Women should not be judged simply by what they wear. Women who dress sexy are not sluts. Rape is not caused by what a woman wears, that is such an outdated idea. Rapists look for women who are easy victims. You have a much higher risk of attack walking around in your own little world and not paying attention, than wearing a short skirt or revealing blouse. I liked your story about the purse snatcher too. He wasn’t expecting that was he?! I am sure you were targeted because you were pregnant. He thought he could snatch and run and you being pregnant, wouldn’t be able to catch him. He would have suffered the same fate at my hands trying that while I was pregnant and even worse if I wasn’t. continue below

> naaah, he and I might agree alot about sexuality but we differ alot as well. > I wouldn’t, for instance, be thrilled if my 11 year old was having sex. > And if he agrees that clothes are not the issue and that a positive body > image and safety from sexual predators is the issue, then good for him!

I also agree that a positive body image is important. I also want her to be safe from predators, on that I think is where you and Steve divide. He thinks all children are sexual and to deny them their freedom to express that, even with an adult, is wrong. This is where I strongly divide from Steve too. Of course, Steve will be in here telling us exactly what he thinks, he can more accurately state his position than I can. I perhaps would like to know from you Sarah, how do I let my daughter be free about her dress and still keep her from being a target as a young girl with older men? I matured quickly as a teen and had older men hit on me too, all the time. I luckily never got into any trouble with that and I was honest about my age. Half the time they wouldn’t believe me until I showed them a school ID. I had a friend of mine with a young daughter, 12 yrs. old who told an older man she was 16 and began sexual relations with him. She looks 16 too. I agree that dress had little to do with this girl being approached. She just plain looked older than she is.  It had alot to do with her lying about her age and willingness to be sexually active. So this is where I concentrate my parenting. I think I just answered my own question above. <g> Sometimes writing things out really helps you think it out. I need to concentrate on teaching her to make good decisions and safe decisions. I am sure she may get hit on by older men, but she needs to be taught how to handle that, rather than worry so much about what she wears. I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s and the popular clothing was somewhat revealing. Remember the skin tight jeans that we used to lie down in to get them on? The tube tops, the halter tops, daisy dukes shorts, mini skirts weren’t back yet, but by the mid 80’s they were. So while I got comments from mom on how tacky I looked, she never accused me of being slutty or promiscuous. Something I never want to do with my daughter is make her feel like she is a *bad* person because of what she wears. Thanks for your insight Sarah. I feel better now. Deanna

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Probably because if you aren’t perfect body wise and dress revealing >> your will get enough stares from prudish women and laughs and rude >> comments from men to make you never go out in public again. People are >> mean. >I’ve seen men stare at someone who looked sexy, but never laugh or say >things derisive after 9th grade about anybody. I think this is all in >your head, but ALSO those of many others! >It would be enough that this society IMPLIES that people should hide >themselves, actually most of the vicious messages of this society are >NEVER explicitly stated, they are only believed because they are not >directly contradicted!! >Well *I’m* contradicting them, and a lot of folks pretend I’m crazy to >say those things just because they have never heard these vicious things >stated explicitly, but both they and I seem to all know them anyway!!! >Steve > That is all well and good Steve  but… > have you seen my boobs? > Loev, > Big Poopa Pump

No, but I’ve seen a lot of them. Why would yours be so notable? Steve

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(snipped most for brevity) > Ask your husbands ladies, that is the >nature of it!!!

Actually…..Sarah…. I *did* ask my husband. He said that the men you speak of are not representative of the ones *he’s* known and worked along side of. He said that yes, women who dress like a whore will stop a board meeting flat, alright, but only because everyone is stunned, uncomfortable or just plain eye-balling her. He also said EXACTLY what Liz said (I think it was trash about her. They do not respect a woman who dresses like this anywhere…….and he said that they respect a woman even less who’d show up at work like this. I know that when I was waitressing……I saw a *clear* difference in the way that the men customers treated the less modestly dressed waitresses. They talked down to them….were condescending….much more likely to touch them…..harrass them…..call them honey and baby and whatnot. As I was nearby working my own tables….I also heard the sickening remarks they’d make after the ones who dressed decently were treated with much, much more respect. Your points about rape however….I agree with. I believe (so does dh) that rape is about power, control and intimidation though, not about sex……so how one dresses has nothing to do with rape. I do disagree with most of the rest of your post though….as does dh. How one dresses in their own home, with their own husband has no bearing whatsoever on how one dresses when one is in public though. Nor does someone else’s *supposed* show of respect to someone dressed in such an inappropriate manner necessarily mean that that person really respects her. Might just mean that the person is too polite to say or show what he really thinks to her face……which would explain why so many trash these women when they aren’t around. And one can and should teach their daughters about safety, love and confidence in *all* things woman……while still teaching them to dress decently and appropriately for different situations and settings. Celebrating womanhood is great……but one can be a helluva sexy woman while remaining a lady as well. JMO. Josie

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>> I was following this thread and ultimately decided a serious rant was in >> order. >Nice!! > Ah, so that really *was* Sarah and not Steve. > Hey, Sarah, doncha find that the Steve hat binds a bit?

naaah, he and I might agree alot about sexuality but we differ alot as well. I wouldn’t, for instance, be thrilled if my 11 year old was having sex. And if he agrees that clothes are not the issue and that a positive body image and safety from sexual predators is the issue, then good for him! > Actually, I liked your post, too. > Tall redhead, huh?

Compliments of Loreal hair color…*S*   6-5 in heels? > Be my friend?

I’ll be your friend, but got plenty of stuff to stare at on the net that far better qualifies for fantasy material than I do. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Glen (… or even my fantasy?) Appleby > — > Do not underestimate your abilities.  That is your boss’s job. > It is your job to find ways around your boss’s roadblocks.

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Poopies Boobs have been quite the controversy lately – LOL Nique

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->That is all well and good Steve  but… >have you seen my boobs? > Two mentions in one day! > Are we on a quest, here? > — > Do not underestimate your abilities.  That is your boss’s job. > It is your job to find ways around your boss’s roadblocks.

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>If we work for someone else, we our selling ourselves.

<psst> Ya forgot to mention yer boobs. — Do not underestimate your abilities.  That is your boss’s job. It is your job to find ways around your boss’s roadblocks.

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>> I was following this thread and ultimately decided a serious rant was in > order. >Nice!!

Ah, so that really *was* Sarah and not Steve. Hey, Sarah, doncha find that the Steve hat binds a bit? Actually, I liked your post, too. Tall redhead, huh?  6-5 in heels? Be my friend? Glen (… or even my fantasy?) Appleby — Do not underestimate your abilities.  That is your boss’s job. It is your job to find ways around your boss’s roadblocks.

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>That is all well and good Steve  but… >have you seen my boobs?

Two mentions in one day! Are we on a quest, here? — Do not underestimate your abilities.  That is your boss’s job. It is your job to find ways around your boss’s roadblocks.

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>Being six foot tall is like wearing a neon sign anyway regardless of >clothes.  

Agreed! Being 6-5 *without* heels makes me feel like I am living in a world of midgets.  Were I not afraid of heights, I might try adding heels to that, just to see the difference. I find that my heigth can be a serious detriment as well. I was told, at work, that I yelled at the secretary.  I never yelled at anybody, so I realized that there was a problem and I pretty much knew how to resolve it. I went into her office and got down on my knees so that I would not be intimidating in appearance.  I asked her what *our* problem was. We talked it out and everything was fine after that. Of course, when it was time for me to go back to work, I had been on my knees for so long that I had to ask for help getting up. Glen (getting old is Hell) Appleby — Do not underestimate your abilities.  That is your boss’s job. It is your job to find ways around your boss’s roadblocks.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Probably because if you aren’t perfect body wise and dress revealing > your will get enough stares from prudish women and laughs and rude > comments from men to make you never go out in public again. People are > mean. >I’ve seen men stare at someone who looked sexy, but never laugh or say >things derisive after 9th grade about anybody. I think this is all in >your head, but ALSO those of many others! >It would be enough that this society IMPLIES that people should hide >themselves, actually most of the vicious messages of this society are >NEVER explicitly stated, they are only believed because they are not >directly contradicted!! >Well *I’m* contradicting them, and a lot of folks pretend I’m crazy to >say those things just because they have never heard these vicious things >stated explicitly, but both they and I seem to all know them anyway!!! >Steve

That is all well and good Steve  but… have you seen my boobs? Loev, Big Poopa Pump

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In 15 years I have never had a male business associate behave > inappropriately, I have never had to deal with any kind of deviant > attention.  ITS ALL A MYTH.  In fact, when I was working as a secretary, the > six men that I worked for LOVED me!  They loved me because I embraced my > womanhood and went with it – the natural effect of that is that those men > were made to feel like MEN.  It had nothing to do with sex.  But I tell you > I received gifts and forebearance on every single imporant day of the year > including my own wedding anniversary!!! >You didn’t find that a little disturbing?  I guess Axl Rose was right. >You got to make a living with what you bring yourself to sell.

If we work for someone else, we our selling ourselves. Loev, Big Poopa Pump

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In 15 years I have never had a male business associate behave > inappropriately, I have never had to deal with any kind of deviant > attention.  ITS ALL A MYTH.  In fact, when I was working as a secretary, the > six men that I worked for LOVED me!  They loved me because I embraced my > womanhood and went with it – the natural effect of that is that those men > were made to feel like MEN.  It had nothing to do with sex.  But I tell you > I received gifts and forebearance on every single imporant day of the year > including my own wedding anniversary!!! > You didn’t find that a little disturbing?  I guess Axl Rose was right. > You got to make a living with what you bring yourself to sell.

Yeah and my clothes made me competant at my job?  There is nothing disturbing about having a great relationship with your office peers nor is there anything disturbing about being rewarded for a job well done. Sarah

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OK, Here is my comment on the whole thing. I think that Sarah is absolutely correct in that you have to learn to find what is comfortable for you personally.  I think that teens have a hard time doing that because of peer pressure.  So, my role as a parent is not to tell her she looks like trash, but to encourage her to dress for herself and not because it is what everybody is wearing.  If that happens to be one in the same, fine.  But I have to instill confidence and self-esteem in my child in order for her to make those decisions. My experience as a teen was pitiful.  I was the mousy tiny petite little girl that was flat chested and a fashion nightmare. I was so small, that my mother had to make most of my clothes, because the clothes that actually fit me were young girl clothes that made me look like a second grader in the 9th and 10th grade. When I was a senior, I was able to find ways to feel good about myself.  I dressed as sexy as they came.  My mom even bought me the padded bras to wear so that I would feel a little more feminine.  Dressing that way finally made me feel special about myself.  I still feel good every time I put on the heels and the mini’s (and yes I still go the padded bra route – seems even pregnancy was only a temporary fix for that problem).  My mom was supportive, and helped me get to a place where I could feel good about myself.  I don’t feel the need to dress that way to have self cesteem any more, but it does still give me a boost when I am down to dress up and look sexy, and Hubby LOVES it! Nique

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I was following this thread and ultimately decided a serious rant was in > order. > For the life of me, I can’t possibly understand why this country still > continues to perpetuate the myth that sensual dressing is harmful or morally > wrong.  Perhaps its because we are the most morbidly obese country in the > planet or perhaps women still believe that unless your body looks exactly > like the models in Cosmo, that you are excluded from sensual dressing.  NO > OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WESTERN WORLD FALLS FOR THAT BULLSHIT ANY MORE!!! > Folks, when we are home watching "Who wants to be a Millionaire", Germans > are home watching "Who Wants to be a Stripper".  Western Europe has a lower > age of consent, a lower unwanted pregnancy rate, a lower divorce rate and a > 3X’s lower abortion rate.  Ask yourself why?????? > The one’s that keep using the phrases like "your dressed like trash, etc > etc" are the key people in this country that can’t even stand to look at > their naked bodies in a mirror!  Its YOUR SHAME, why the fuck would you want > to instill that in your children?????? > I have somewhat of a unique perspective about this (experiential knowledge > here folks, not conjecture) for a variety of reasons. > I have gone from being a life long skinny person, to an overweight person (I > was bedridden for part of my second pregnancy and gained aLOT of weight) > back to a slender person.  I know about being uncomfortable with your body > perception because I have been there!!!! > I am six foot tall, have a 38-inch inseam and regardless if I am dressed in > rags or a ‘fuck me mini-skirt’, I get noticed anyway.  THANK GOD I was > raised by european parents who did not hold onto any silly notions about > dressing or showing off the wonderous gifts I was blessed with.  My father > always told me that long legs look best in heels and a short skirt and HE IS > RIGHT.  My mom was a model in London in the 50’s and taught me the > importance of grace, confidence and pursuing my own sence of style.  I never > ever heard my parents say, "You aren’t going out wearing that, are you?" > I’ll tell you something, in business I dress to the 9’s.  I wear the sensual > business suits that enhance my god given features and I wear the highest > heels that are made. (A 6′5" redhead can stop a Board meeting flat!)  The > only people threatened by that are men with Napolean complexes and almost > ALL women.  What is there to be threatened about?  Is it my fault that other > women have chosen not to dress themselves that best enhance the fact that > they are WOMEN?  Do you think that because you dress that way you aren’t > going to be taken seriously?  Do you think that dressing that way undermines > the feminatzi movement? > In 15 years I have never had a male business associate behave > inappropriately, I have never had to deal with any kind of deviant > attention.  ITS ALL A MYTH.  In fact, when I was working as a secretary, the > six men that I worked for LOVED me!  They loved me because I embraced my > womanhood and went with it – the natural effect of that is that those men > were made to feel like MEN.  It had nothing to do with sex.  But I tell you > I received gifts and forebearance on every single imporant day of the year > including my own wedding anniversary!!!  I have male friends that wish I had > a sister, but the don’t EVER come on to me, because I know who I am! > As far as younger girls experimenting with clothes and finding their own > personal style, LET THEM!  They will be better women for it!!  If you think > that if they cover everything up, they are safer than girls who don’t? > Think again!  Men have just as many prim and proper school girl fantasies > than anything else. > Instead of worrying about their clothes, worry about the REAL issues of > their safety.  You need to protect your daughters from predators who don’t > think THEY NEED TO ASK PERMISSION FOR SEXUAL CONDUCT.  That is the real > danger, not the clothes.  The real danger is girls that are not given the > necessary tools to conduct themselves in a safety minded way when they are > out of the house.  Young girls NEED to travel in groups, Young girls NEED to > be taught to be aware of their surroundings at all times, Young girls NEED > to be taught not to go into situations that are unfamiliar or uncomfortable, > Young girls NEED to be taught to rely on their intuition if they think a > potentially bad situation is at hand, Young girls NEED to be taught that it > is safe to call home and get the hell out of a situation EVEN if the > situation they are in is not one you approve of. > If you use the old arguement, "if they dress like that, they are asking for > it".  By that same logic when I am naked and in my marriage bed, then my > husband has every right to take sex without asking.  Hell, I was naked and > in bed wasn’t I?  I was asking for it!  IT DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY. > Walking home from work, 7 months pregnant with my son, I had a man attempt > to steal my purse and cop a few cheaps feels in the process.  I was aware > that he was behind me and I was aware of my surroundings.  You know what > happened?  He got a beer bottle bashed up the side of his face and got > kicked by my size 10 sneakers until I felt ribs crack and then he went to > jail!  And ladies, I was wearing a god damn maternity smock at the time. > Him targeting me had nothing to do with what I was wearing but the fact that > I was a female walking alone. > Don’t perpetuate the myths any longer.  Being a woman is the GREATEST thing > in the world.  Dress like you LOVE being a woman, that is what it is all > about.  We have breasts and beautiful legs and curves that are unmatched in > their beauty by anything else. > What does my hubby think of all this when it comes to me and our daughter? > HE LOVES IT!!!  He wants his daughter to be a happy, safe, confident WOMAN > who loves herself and her body.  He loves it with me regardless if I wear a > mini-dress or sweats because I am HIS goddess!!!  I am who he choose above > all others as his idea of WOMANHOOD.  Ask your husbands ladies, that is the > nature of it!!! > Teach your daugther’s safety, Teach your daughters love and confidence about > all things WOMAN!! > *okay, done now* > Sarah > Mom to Kalen (9) and Victoria (11 months)

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> In 15 years I have never had a male business associate behave > inappropriately, I have never had to deal with any kind of deviant > attention.  ITS ALL A MYTH.  In fact, when I was working as a secretary, the > six men that I worked for LOVED me!  They loved me because I embraced my > womanhood and went with it – the natural effect of that is that those men > were made to feel like MEN.  It had nothing to do with sex.  But I tell you > I received gifts and forebearance on every single imporant day of the year > including my own wedding anniversary!!!

You didn’t find that a little disturbing?  I guess Axl Rose was right. You got to make a living with what you bring yourself to sell.

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> Probably because if you aren’t perfect body wise and dress revealing > your will get enough stares from prudish women and laughs and rude > comments from men to make you never go out in public again. People are > mean.

I’ve seen men stare at someone who looked sexy, but never laugh or say things derisive after 9th grade about anybody. I think this is all in your head, but ALSO those of many others! It would be enough that this society IMPLIES that people should hide themselves, actually most of the vicious messages of this society are NEVER explicitly stated, they are only believed because they are not directly contradicted!! Well *I’m* contradicting them, and a lot of folks pretend I’m crazy to say those things just because they have never heard these vicious things stated explicitly, but both they and I seem to all know them anyway!!! Steve

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I was following this thread and ultimately decided a serious rant was in >order. >For the life of me, I can’t possibly understand why this country still >continues to perpetuate the myth that sensual dressing is harmful or morally >wrong.  Perhaps its because we are the most morbidly obese country in the >planet or perhaps women still believe that unless your body looks exactly >like the models in Cosmo, that you are excluded from sensual dressing. > Probably because if you aren’t perfect body wise and dress revealing > your will get enough stares from prudish women and laughs and rude > comments from men to make you never go out in public again. People are > mean.

I know people are mean, Poopie.  But being happy with your body is an inside job and when you are truely happy with it, then outside influence is irrelevant. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> NO >OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WESTERN WORLD FALLS FOR THAT BULLSHIT ANY MORE!!! >Folks, when we are home watching "Who wants to be a Millionaire", Germans >are home watching "Who Wants to be a Stripper".  Western Europe has a lower >age of consent, a lower unwanted pregnancy rate, a lower divorce rate and a >3X’s lower abortion rate.  Ask yourself why?????? >The one’s that keep using the phrases like "your dressed like trash, etc >etc" are the key people in this country that can’t even stand to look at >their naked bodies in a mirror!  Its YOUR SHAME, why the fuck would you want >to instill that in your children?????? > Well hell I wouldn’t what to look at Janet Reno’s or GW Bush nekkid > body either!  Scary!!!

Who knows what Janet Reno would look like if she choose to dress herself to look like a man?  IF we have to dress like males in drag in order to *appear* authoratative, then we aren’t on an *equal* playing field in the workforce yet, are we? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I have somewhat of a unique perspective about this (experiential knowledge >here folks, not conjecture) for a variety of reasons. >I have gone from being a life long skinny person, to an overweight person (I >was bedridden for part of my second pregnancy and gained aLOT of weight) >back to a slender person.  I know about being uncomfortable with your body >perception because I have been there!!!! >I am six foot tall, have a 38-inch inseam and regardless if I am dressed in >rags or a ‘fuck me mini-skirt’, I get noticed anyway.  THANK GOD I was >raised by european parents who did not hold onto any silly notions about >dressing or showing off the wonderous gifts I was blessed with.  My father >always told me that long legs look best in heels and a short skirt and HE IS >RIGHT.  My mom was a model in London in the 50’s and taught me the >importance of grace, confidence and pursuing my own sence of style.  I never >ever heard my parents say, "You aren’t going out wearing that, are you?" >I’ll tell you something, in business I dress to the 9’s.  I wear the sensual >business suits that enhance my god given features and I wear the highest >heels that are made. (A 6′5" redhead can stop a Board meeting flat!)  The >only people threatened by that are men with Napolean complexes and almost >ALL women. > I wonder why that is?

Because women have be taught to override their natural sence of self with outside media influence or even more damaging, the *male* interpretation of GOD’s word…ie. the Bible.  Until we teach our daughters that line of bullshit is pure bullshit, things will never change. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What is there to be threatened about?  Is it my fault that other >women have chosen not to dress themselves that best enhance the fact that >they are WOMEN?  Do you think that because you dress that way you aren’t >going to be taken seriously?  Do you think that dressing that way undermines >the feminatzi movement? >In 15 years I have never had a male business associate behave >inappropriately, I have never had to deal with any kind of deviant >attention.  ITS ALL A MYTH.  In fact, when I was working as a secretary, the >six men that I worked for LOVED me!  They loved me because I embraced my >womanhood and went with it – the natural effect of that is that those men >were made to feel like MEN.  It had nothing to do with sex.  But I tell you >I received gifts and forebearance on every single imporant day of the year >including my own wedding anniversary!!!  I have male friends that wish I had >a sister, but the don’t EVER come on to me, because I know who I am! > But if you had been a 300 pounds woman with a face like a mack truck > in those 6.5 inch heels and short skirts, those men would have been > laughing at you behind your back.

Yeah, they sure would.  However, I have several overweight girlfriends that have chosen to embrace their bodies as volumptious (very Victorian) versus fat and ugly.  The dress to best accentuate their assets and they look wonderful!!! If a woman can’t find an asset of her own because she is overweight, then she needs to ask herself why she gets her good feelings from food and get over whatever that is.  That is what I have found to be the key to losing weight….not a diet, not the gym, but a love of myself…that sheds pounds better than Fen Fen ever could. > I know.  I have seen it in the corp world.  This one gal wore low cut > blouses and she would lean over the conference table showin her wares > to the men and they hung on every word.  Another woman who was thing > but just not attractive attempted several times to get her point > accross and she was ignored.  One day the sexy gals boss got promoted > and this very competent but fat woman took his place.  I noticed after > that the sexy gal didn’t get the special projects or preferential > treatment any more.

No one should get preferntial treatment because of their breasts.  No one should be excluded from showing their competence at their jobs because they have a nice rack.  While I know first hand, that is not the way it is right now, there is no reason why our daughters can’t be taught that this kind of stuff a’int right. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->As far as younger girls experimenting with clothes and finding their own >personal style, LET THEM!  They will be better women for it!!  If you think >that if they cover everything up, they are safer than girls who don’t? >Think again!  Men have just as many prim and proper school girl fantasies >than anything else. >Instead of worrying about their clothes, worry about the REAL issues of >their safety.  You need to protect your daughters from predators who don’t >think THEY NEED TO ASK PERMISSION FOR SEXUAL CONDUCT.  That is the real >danger, not the clothes.  The real danger is girls that are not given the >necessary tools to conduct themselves in a safety minded way when they are >out of the house.  Young girls NEED to travel in groups, Young girls NEED to >be taught to be aware of their surroundings at all times, Young girls NEED >to be taught not to go into situations that are unfamiliar or uncomfortable, >Young girls NEED to be taught to rely on their intuition if they think a >potentially bad situation is at hand, Young girls NEED to be taught that it >is safe to call home and get the hell out of a situation EVEN if the >situation they are in is not one you approve of. >If you use the old arguement, "if they dress like that, they are asking for >it".  By that same logic when I am naked and in my marriage bed, then my >husband has every right to take sex without asking.  Hell, I was naked and >in bed wasn’t I?  I was asking for it!  IT DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY. >Walking home from work, 7 months pregnant with my son, I had a man attempt >to steal my purse and cop a few cheaps feels in the process.  I was aware >that he was behind me and I was aware of my surroundings.  You know what >happened?  He got a beer bottle bashed up the side of his face and got >kicked by my size 10 sneakers until I felt ribs crack and then he went to >jail!  And ladies, I was wearing a god damn maternity smock at the time. >Him targeting me had nothing to do with what I was wearing but the fact that >I was a female walking alone. >Don’t perpetuate the myths any longer.  Being a woman is the GREATEST thing >in the world.  Dress like you LOVE being a woman, that is what it is all >about.  We have breasts and beautiful legs and curves that are unmatched in >their beauty by anything else. >What does my hubby think of all this when it comes to me and our daughter? >HE LOVES IT!!!  He wants his daughter to be a happy, safe, confident WOMAN >who loves herself and her body.  He loves it with me regardless if I wear a >mini-dress or sweats because I am HIS goddess!!!  I am who he choose above >all others as his idea of WOMANHOOD.  Ask your husbands ladies, that is the >nature of it!!! >Teach your daugther’s safety, Teach your daughters love and confidence about >all things WOMAN!! >*okay, done now* >Sarah >Mom to Kalen (9) and Victoria (11 months) > And I like showing off my Big Boobs. > Loev, > Big Poopa PUmp

I know you do Poop, I seen your website.  You are AB FAB hon!!! Sarah

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Stephanie S (formerly Stephanie, formerly Stephanie 6217)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I was following this thread and ultimately decided a serious rant was in > order. > For the life of me, I can’t possibly understand why this country still > continues to perpetuate the myth that sensual dressing is harmful or > morally > wrong.  Perhaps its because we are the most morbidly obese country in the > planet or perhaps women still believe that unless your body looks exactly > like the models in Cosmo, that you are excluded from sensual dressing. NO > OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WESTERN WORLD FALLS FOR THAT BULLSHIT ANY MORE!!! > Folks, when we are home watching "Who wants to be a Millionaire", Germans > are home watching "Who Wants to be a Stripper".  Western Europe has a > lower > age of consent, a lower unwanted pregnancy rate, a lower divorce rate and > a > 3X’s lower abortion rate.  Ask yourself why?????? > The one’s that keep using the phrases like "your dressed like trash, etc > etc" are the key people in this country that can’t even stand to look at > their naked bodies in a mirror!  Its YOUR SHAME, why the fuck would you > want > to instill that in your children?????? > I have somewhat of a unique perspective about this (experiential knowledge > here folks, not conjecture) for a variety of reasons. > I have gone from being a life long skinny person, to an overweight person > (I > was bedridden for part of my second pregnancy and gained aLOT of weight) > back to a slender person.  I know about being uncomfortable with your body > perception because I have been there!!!! > I am six foot tall, have a 38-inch inseam and regardless if I am dressed > in > rags or a ‘fuck me mini-skirt’, I get noticed anyway.  THANK GOD I was > raised by european parents who did not hold onto any silly notions about > dressing or showing off the wonderous gifts I was blessed with.  My father > always told me that long legs look best in heels and a short skirt and HE > IS > RIGHT. > They are terribly uncomfortable. I "embrace my womanhood" by wearing clogs > and not shaving my legs. But then I live in Vermont. The only person who > needs to approve of how I look is ME. Well, I like the fact that my husband > thinks I am beatiful. I used to do the dressed to the nines thing. Yeah, > people looked. Now I, happiliy, could not care less. Anyway, that is a > little off point. But I think the important thing is not that people dress > "sexy" or whatever, but that they are comfortable with their own desires. > My mom was a model in London in the 50’s and taught me the > importance of grace, confidence and pursuing my own sence of style.  I > never > ever heard my parents say, "You aren’t going out wearing that, are you?" > I’ll tell you something, in business I dress to the 9’s.  I wear the > sensual > business suits that enhance my god given features and I wear the highest > heels that are made. (A 6′5" redhead can stop a Board meeting flat!) > I am not super sure why you would want to stop a board meeting flat with > something other than your brilliant mind… But whatever floats your boat. > <SNIP>

Being six foot tall is like wearing a neon sign anyway regardless of clothes.  What I had to decide was whether or not to embrace what I had. Wearing flats or heels regardless has excluded me from getting jobs (primarily with woman bosses) simply because my stature is so imposing.  So rather than hide it, I choose to flaunt it.  I don’t want to work for anyone that can’t hold their own anyway, who would want to?  Obviously, in the businessworld, without any substance and without any intelligence or competance, you are not going to get very far, even if you look like Pamela Lee (which I DO NOT). But you snipped the most important part!  You have found that your own personal sence of style tends more towards the ‘earth mother’ concept than anything else.  But the question still remains whether or not you are going to stop your daughter from finding her own sence of style by herself or are you going to tell her that clogs and unshaven legs are the only way to go? Are you going to tell her that she is free to express her feminity (or lack thereof) in any way she chooses to or are you going to shame her into an unhealthy body perception? Sarah

Response:

>I was following this thread and ultimately decided a serious rant was in >order. >For the life of me, I can’t possibly understand why this country still >continues to perpetuate the myth that sensual dressing is harmful or morally >wrong.  Perhaps its because we are the most morbidly obese country in the >planet or perhaps women still believe that unless your body looks exactly >like the models in Cosmo, that you are excluded from sensual dressing.

Probably because if you aren’t perfect body wise and dress revealing your will get enough stares from prudish women and laughs and rude comments from men to make you never go out in public again. People are mean. > NO >OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WESTERN WORLD FALLS FOR THAT BULLSHIT ANY MORE!!! >Folks, when we are home watching "Who wants to be a Millionaire", Germans >are home watching "Who Wants to be a Stripper".  Western Europe has a lower >age of consent, a lower unwanted pregnancy rate, a lower divorce rate and a >3X’s lower abortion rate.  Ask yourself why?????? >The one’s that keep using the phrases like "your dressed like trash, etc >etc" are the key people in this country that can’t even stand to look at >their naked bodies in a mirror!  Its YOUR SHAME, why the fuck would you want >to instill that in your children??????

Well hell I wouldn’t what to look at Janet Reno’s or GW Bush nekkid body either!  Scary!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I have somewhat of a unique perspective about this (experiential knowledge >here folks, not conjecture) for a variety of reasons. >I have gone from being a life long skinny person, to an overweight person (I >was bedridden for part of my second pregnancy and gained aLOT of weight) >back to a slender person.  I know about being uncomfortable with your body >perception because I have been there!!!! >I am six foot tall, have a 38-inch inseam and regardless if I am dressed in >rags or a ‘fuck me mini-skirt’, I get noticed anyway.  THANK GOD I was >raised by european parents who did not hold onto any silly notions about >dressing or showing off the wonderous gifts I was blessed with.  My father >always told me that long legs look best in heels and a short skirt and HE IS >RIGHT.  My mom was a model in London in the 50’s and taught me the >importance of grace, confidence and pursuing my own sence of style.  I never >ever heard my parents say, "You aren’t going out wearing that, are you?" >I’ll tell you something, in business I dress to the 9’s.  I wear the sensual >business suits that enhance my god given features and I wear the highest >heels that are made. (A 6′5" redhead can stop a Board meeting flat!)  The >only people threatened by that are men with Napolean complexes and almost >ALL women.

I wonder why that is? > What is there to be threatened about?  Is it my fault that other >women have chosen not to dress themselves that best enhance the fact that >they are WOMEN?  Do you think that because you dress that way you aren’t >going to be taken seriously?  Do you think that dressing that way undermines >the feminatzi movement? >In 15 years I have never had a male business associate behave >inappropriately, I have never had to deal with any kind of deviant >attention.  ITS ALL A MYTH.  In fact, when I was working as a secretary, the >six men that I worked for LOVED me!  They loved me because I embraced my >womanhood and went with it – the natural effect of that is that those men >were made to feel like MEN.  It had nothing to do with sex.  But I tell you >I received gifts and forebearance on every single imporant day of the year >including my own wedding anniversary!!!  I have male friends that wish I had >a sister, but the don’t EVER come on to me, because I know who I am!

But if you had been a 300 pounds woman with a face like a mack truck in those 6.5 inch heels and short skirts, those men would have been laughing at you behind your back. I know.  I have seen it in the corp world.  This one gal wore low cut blouses and she would lean over the conference table showin her wares to the men and they hung on every word.  Another woman who was thing but just not attractive attempted several times to get her point accross and she was ignored.  One day the sexy gals boss got promoted and this very competent but fat woman took his place.  I noticed after that the sexy gal didn’t get the special projects or preferential treatment any more. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->As far as younger girls experimenting with clothes and finding their own >personal style, LET THEM!  They will be better women for it!!  If you think >that if they cover everything up, they are safer than girls who don’t? >Think again!  Men have just as many prim and proper school girl fantasies >than anything else. >Instead of worrying about their clothes, worry about the REAL issues of >their safety.  You need to protect your daughters from predators who don’t >think THEY NEED TO ASK PERMISSION FOR SEXUAL CONDUCT.  That is the real >danger, not the clothes.  The real danger is girls that are not given the >necessary tools to conduct themselves in a safety minded way when they are >out of the house.  Young girls NEED to travel in groups, Young girls NEED to >be taught to be aware of their surroundings at all times, Young girls NEED >to be taught not to go into situations that are unfamiliar or uncomfortable, >Young girls NEED to be taught to rely on their intuition if they think a >potentially bad situation is at hand, Young girls NEED to be taught that it >is safe to call home and get the hell out of a situation EVEN if the >situation they are in is not one you approve of. >If you use the old arguement, "if they dress like that, they are asking for >it".  By that same logic when I am naked and in my marriage bed, then my >husband has every right to take sex without asking.  Hell, I was naked and >in bed wasn’t I?  I was asking for it!  IT DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY. >Walking home from work, 7 months pregnant with my son, I had a man attempt >to steal my purse and cop a few cheaps feels in the process.  I was aware >that he was behind me and I was aware of my surroundings.  You know what >happened?  He got a beer bottle bashed up the side of his face and got >kicked by my size 10 sneakers until I felt ribs crack and then he went to >jail!  And ladies, I was wearing a god damn maternity smock at the time. >Him targeting me had nothing to do with what I was wearing but the fact that >I was a female walking alone. >Don’t perpetuate the myths any longer.  Being a woman is the GREATEST thing >in the world.  Dress like you LOVE being a woman, that is what it is all >about.  We have breasts and beautiful legs and curves that are unmatched in >their beauty by anything else. >What does my hubby think of all this when it comes to me and our daughter? >HE LOVES IT!!!  He wants his daughter to be a happy, safe, confident WOMAN >who loves herself and her body.  He loves it with me regardless if I wear a >mini-dress or sweats because I am HIS goddess!!!  I am who he choose above >all others as his idea of WOMANHOOD.  Ask your husbands ladies, that is the >nature of it!!! >Teach your daugther’s safety, Teach your daughters love and confidence about >all things WOMAN!! >*okay, done now* >Sarah >Mom to Kalen (9) and Victoria (11 months)

And I like showing off my Big Boobs. Loev, Big Poopa PUmp

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I was following this thread and ultimately decided a serious rant was in > order. > For the life of me, I can’t possibly understand why this country still > continues to perpetuate the myth that sensual dressing is harmful or morally > wrong.  Perhaps its because we are the most morbidly obese country in the > planet or perhaps women still believe that unless your body looks exactly > like the models in Cosmo, that you are excluded from sensual dressing.  NO > OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WESTERN WORLD FALLS FOR THAT BULLSHIT ANY MORE!!! > Folks, when we are home watching "Who wants to be a Millionaire", Germans > are home watching "Who Wants to be a Stripper".  Western Europe has a lower > age of consent, a lower unwanted pregnancy rate, a lower divorce rate and a > 3X’s lower abortion rate.  Ask yourself why?????? > The one’s that keep using the phrases like "your dressed like trash, etc > etc" are the key people in this country that can’t even stand to look at > their naked bodies in a mirror!  Its YOUR SHAME, why the fuck would you want > to instill that in your children?????? > I have somewhat of a unique perspective about this (experiential knowledge > here folks, not conjecture) for a variety of reasons. > I have gone from being a life long skinny person, to an overweight person (I > was bedridden for part of my second pregnancy and gained aLOT of weight) > back to a slender person.  I know about being uncomfortable with your body > perception because I have been there!!!! > I am six foot tall, have a 38-inch inseam and regardless if I am dressed in > rags or a ‘fuck me mini-skirt’, I get noticed anyway.  THANK GOD I was > raised by european parents who did not hold onto any silly notions about > dressing or showing off the wonderous gifts I was blessed with.  My father > always told me that long legs look best in heels and a short skirt and HE IS > RIGHT.

They are terribly uncomfortable. I "embrace my womanhood" by wearing clogs and not shaving my legs. But then I live in Vermont. The only person who needs to approve of how I look is ME. Well, I like the fact that my husband thinks I am beatiful. I used to do the dressed to the nines thing. Yeah, people looked. Now I, happiliy, could not care less. Anyway, that is a little off point. But I think the important thing is not that people dress "sexy" or whatever, but that they are comfortable with their own desires. > My mom was a model in London in the 50’s and taught me the > importance of grace, confidence and pursuing my own sence of style.  I never > ever heard my parents say, "You aren’t going out wearing that, are you?" > I’ll tell you something, in business I dress to the 9’s.  I wear the sensual > business suits that enhance my god given features and I wear the highest > heels that are made. (A 6′5" redhead can stop a Board meeting flat!)

I am not super sure why you would want to stop a board meeting flat with something other than your brilliant mind… But whatever floats your boat. <SNIP>

Response:

> I was following this thread and ultimately decided a serious rant was in > order.

Nice!! Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> For the life of me, I can’t possibly understand why this country still > continues to perpetuate the myth that sensual dressing is harmful or morally > wrong.  Perhaps its because we are the most morbidly obese country in the > planet or perhaps women still believe that unless your body looks exactly > like the models in Cosmo, that you are excluded from sensual dressing.  NO > OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WESTERN WORLD FALLS FOR THAT BULLSHIT ANY MORE!!! > Folks, when we are home watching "Who wants to be a Millionaire", Germans > are home watching "Who Wants to be a Stripper".  Western Europe has a lower > age of consent, a lower unwanted pregnancy rate, a lower divorce rate and a > 3X’s lower abortion rate.  Ask yourself why?????? > The one’s that keep using the phrases like "your dressed like trash, etc > etc" are the key people in this country that can’t even stand to look at > their naked bodies in a mirror!  Its YOUR SHAME, why the fuck would you want > to instill that in your children?????? > I have somewhat of a unique perspective about this (experiential knowledge > here folks, not conjecture) for a variety of reasons. > I have gone from being a life long skinny person, to an overweight person (I > was bedridden for part of my second pregnancy and gained aLOT of weight) > back to a slender person.  I know about being uncomfortable with your body > perception because I have been there!!!! > I am six foot tall, have a 38-inch inseam and regardless if I am dressed in > rags or a ‘fuck me mini-skirt’, I get noticed anyway.  THANK GOD I was > raised by european parents who did not hold onto any silly notions about > dressing or showing off the wonderous gifts I was blessed with.  My father > always told me that long legs look best in heels and a short skirt and HE IS > RIGHT.  My mom was a model in London in the 50’s and taught me the > importance of grace, confidence and pursuing my own sence of style.  I never > ever heard my parents say, "You aren’t going out wearing that, are you?" > I’ll tell you something, in business I dress to the 9’s.  I wear the sensual > business suits that enhance my god given features and I wear the highest > heels that are made. (A 6′5" redhead can stop a Board meeting flat!)  The > only people threatened by that are men with Napolean complexes and almost > ALL women.  What is there to be threatened about?  Is it my fault that other > women have chosen not to dress themselves that best enhance the fact that > they are WOMEN?  Do you think that because you dress that way you aren’t > going to be taken seriously?  Do you think that dressing that way undermines > the feminatzi movement? > In 15 years I have never had a male business associate behave > inappropriately, I have never had to deal with any kind of deviant > attention.  ITS ALL A MYTH.  In fact, when I was working as a secretary, the > six men that I worked for LOVED me!  They loved me because I embraced my > womanhood and went with it – the natural effect of that is that those men > were made to feel like MEN.  It had nothing to do with sex.  But I tell you > I received gifts and forebearance on every single imporant day of the year > including my own wedding anniversary!!!  I have male friends that wish I had > a sister, but the don’t EVER come on to me, because I know who I am! > As far as younger girls experimenting with clothes and finding their own > personal style, LET THEM!  They will be better women for it!!  If you think > that if they cover everything up, they are safer than girls who don’t? > Think again!  Men have just as many prim and proper school girl fantasies > than anything else. > Instead of worrying about their clothes, worry about the REAL issues of > their safety.  You need to protect your daughters from predators who don’t > think THEY NEED TO ASK PERMISSION FOR SEXUAL CONDUCT.  That is the real > danger, not the clothes.  The real danger is girls that are not given the > necessary tools to conduct themselves in a safety minded way when they are > out of the house.  Young girls NEED to travel in groups, Young girls NEED to > be taught to be aware of their surroundings at all times, Young girls NEED > to be taught not to go into situations that are unfamiliar or uncomfortable, > Young girls NEED to be taught to rely on their intuition if they think a > potentially bad situation is at hand, Young girls NEED to be taught that it > is safe to call home and get the hell out of a situation EVEN if the > situation they are in is not one you approve of. > If you use the old arguement, "if they dress like that, they are asking for > it".  By that same logic when I am naked and in my marriage bed, then my > husband has every right to take sex without asking.  Hell, I was naked and > in bed wasn’t I?  I was asking for it!  IT DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY. > Walking home from work, 7 months pregnant with my son, I had a man attempt > to steal my purse and cop a few cheaps feels in the process.  I was aware > that he was behind me and I was aware of my surroundings.  You know what > happened?  He got a beer bottle bashed up the side of his face and got > kicked by my size 10 sneakers until I felt ribs crack and then he went to > jail!  And ladies, I was wearing a god damn maternity smock at the time. > Him targeting me had nothing to do with what I was wearing but the fact that > I was a female walking alone. > Don’t perpetuate the myths any longer.  Being a woman is the GREATEST thing > in the world.  Dress like you LOVE being a woman, that is what it is all > about.  We have breasts and beautiful legs and curves that are unmatched in > their beauty by anything else. > What does my hubby think of all this when it comes to me and our daughter? > HE LOVES IT!!!  He wants his daughter to be a happy, safe, confident WOMAN > who loves herself and her body.  He loves it with me regardless if I wear a > mini-dress or sweats because I am HIS goddess!!!  I am who he choose above > all others as his idea of WOMANHOOD.  Ask your husbands ladies, that is the > nature of it!!! > Teach your daugther’s safety, Teach your daughters love and confidence about > all things WOMAN!! > *okay, done now* > Sarah > Mom to Kalen (9) and Victoria (11 months)

Response:

I was following this thread and ultimately decided a serious rant was in order. For the life of me, I can’t possibly understand why this country still continues to perpetuate the myth that sensual dressing is harmful or morally wrong.  Perhaps its because we are the most morbidly obese country in the planet or perhaps women still believe that unless your body looks exactly like the models in Cosmo, that you are excluded from sensual dressing.  NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WESTERN WORLD FALLS FOR THAT BULLSHIT ANY MORE!!! Folks, when we are home watching "Who wants to be a Millionaire", Germans are home watching "Who Wants to be a Stripper".  Western Europe has a lower age of consent, a lower unwanted pregnancy rate, a lower divorce rate and a 3X’s lower abortion rate.  Ask yourself why?????? The one’s that keep using the phrases like "your dressed like trash, etc etc" are the key people in this country that can’t even stand to look at their naked bodies in a mirror!  Its YOUR SHAME, why the fuck would you want to instill that in your children?????? I have somewhat of a unique perspective about this (experiential knowledge here folks, not conjecture) for a variety of reasons. I have gone from being a life long skinny person, to an overweight person (I was bedridden for part of my second pregnancy and gained aLOT of weight) back to a slender person.  I know about being uncomfortable with your body perception because I have been there!!!! I am six foot tall, have a 38-inch inseam and regardless if I am dressed in rags or a ‘fuck me mini-skirt’, I get noticed anyway.  THANK GOD I was raised by european parents who did not hold onto any silly notions about dressing or showing off the wonderous gifts I was blessed with.  My father always told me that long legs look best in heels and a short skirt and HE IS RIGHT.  My mom was a model in London in the 50’s and taught me the importance of grace, confidence and pursuing my own sence of style.  I never ever heard my parents say, "You aren’t going out wearing that, are you?" I’ll tell you something, in business I dress to the 9’s.  I wear the sensual business suits that enhance my god given features and I wear the highest heels that are made. (A 6′5" redhead can stop a Board meeting flat!)  The only people threatened by that are men with Napolean complexes and almost ALL women.  What is there to be threatened about?  Is it my fault that other women have chosen not to dress themselves that best enhance the fact that they are WOMEN?  Do you think that because you dress that way you aren’t going to be taken seriously?  Do you think that dressing that way undermines the feminatzi movement? In 15 years I have never had a male business associate behave inappropriately, I have never had to deal with any kind of deviant attention.  ITS ALL A MYTH.  In fact, when I was working as a secretary, the six men that I worked for LOVED me!  They loved me because I embraced my womanhood and went with it – the natural effect of that is that those men were made to feel like MEN.  It had nothing to do with sex.  But I tell you I received gifts and forebearance on every single imporant day of the year including my own wedding anniversary!!!  I have male friends that wish I had a sister, but the don’t EVER come on to me, because I know who I am! As far as younger girls experimenting with clothes and finding their own personal style, LET THEM!  They will be better women for it!!  If you think that if they cover everything up, they are safer than girls who don’t? Think again!  Men have just as many prim and proper school girl fantasies than anything else. Instead of worrying about their clothes, worry about the REAL issues of their safety.  You need to protect your daughters from predators who don’t think THEY NEED TO ASK PERMISSION FOR SEXUAL CONDUCT.  That is the real danger, not the clothes.  The real danger is girls that are not given the necessary tools to conduct themselves in a safety minded way when they are out of the house.  Young girls NEED to travel in groups, Young girls NEED to be taught to be aware of their surroundings at all times, Young girls NEED to be taught not to go into situations that are unfamiliar or uncomfortable, Young girls NEED to be taught to rely on their intuition if they think a potentially bad situation is at hand, Young girls NEED to be taught that it is safe to call home and get the hell out of a situation EVEN if the situation they are in is not one you approve of. If you use the old arguement, "if they dress like that, they are asking for it".  By that same logic when I am naked and in my marriage bed, then my husband has every right to take sex without asking.  Hell, I was naked and in bed wasn’t I?  I was asking for it!  IT DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY. Walking home from work, 7 months pregnant with my son, I had a man attempt to steal my purse and cop a few cheaps feels in the process.  I was aware that he was behind me and I was aware of my surroundings.  You know what happened?  He got a beer bottle bashed up the side of his face and got kicked by my size 10 sneakers until I felt ribs crack and then he went to jail!  And ladies, I was wearing a god damn maternity smock at the time. Him targeting me had nothing to do with what I was wearing but the fact that I was a female walking alone. Don’t perpetuate the myths any longer.  Being a woman is the GREATEST thing in the world.  Dress like you LOVE being a woman, that is what it is all about.  We have breasts and beautiful legs and curves that are unmatched in their beauty by anything else. What does my hubby think of all this when it comes to me and our daughter? HE LOVES IT!!!  He wants his daughter to be a happy, safe, confident WOMAN who loves herself and her body.  He loves it with me regardless if I wear a mini-dress or sweats because I am HIS goddess!!!  I am who he choose above all others as his idea of WOMANHOOD.  Ask your husbands ladies, that is the nature of it!!! Teach your daugther’s safety, Teach your daughters love and confidence about all things WOMAN!! *okay, done now* Sarah Mom to Kalen (9) and Victoria (11 months)

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