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>What was so great about the 70’s? >Enid
Certainly not the clothes. Lol. (Sorry just had to throw something light-hearted in here). Later, Sophie mom to Charlotte (19 months) and Patrick (3 months)
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >We have had a generation of spineless parenting and > >we are paying the consequences for it. > I totally agree with this statement! > One has to wonder about the parenting styles of today vs. 20-30 > years ago. The kids back then did not have even close to the > amount of violence that they do today. Why have they learned to > be SO violent? I think alot of it has to do with parents not > being strict enough and not teaching every day morals and rules. >20-30 years ago I used to routinely get beat up and threatened after >school, I lived in fear to walk my neighborhood, our windows >had several bullet holes through them, and our apt. was burglerized >despite 3 locks on our door and a lock on the front door of the >building. What was so great about the 70’s? >Enid
Disco was great! Mz Pants
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I’ve seen similar behaviors from other children when I’ve taken my own to the playground. My kids will sometimes ask to be taken home because some of the kids there are too out of control. It’s sad. I’m not saying my kids are perfect, nor are all of my parenting techniques, but my kids do have manners and are considerate of other people — and when they forget, as children often do, I keep a close eye and remind them of such courtesies. — Jackie M. SAHM to three wonderful kids "Beginning today, treat everyone you meet as if he or she were going to them all the care, kindness, and understanding you can muster, and do so with no thought of any reward. Your life will never be the same again." http://www.geocities.com/jackiemulroy
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Notice how everyone thinks they are the most wonderful parents and > none of their kids are brats? > Why is it that I frequently see all these brats out in public? > Example: > Basketball game–This woman has 3 or 4 little kids. She sits there > and completely ignores them while they run wild all over the place. > Jumping up and down on the bleachers. They annoy other people who are > trying to watch the game. She does nothing to make them settle down. > Wait until one of them fall on the bleachers and cracks his head open > then maybe she will do something. > Department Store: I was standing in a line at a department store > waiting to check out. There was a woman in from of me in a wheel > chair and had her service dog was with her. > Behind her was a woman with a little girl of about 6 or 7 and her > little girl stood there and kicked the womans service dog. The little > brats mother did nothing. Ignored it. The brat kicked the dog again > and finally the handicapped woman said something to the mother and she > got huffy about it. The mother never did discipline the brat for > kicking the ladies dog > Mz Pants
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>violent kids from broken homes in poverty in the ghettos are
nothing new. Agreed. there has always been gangs and the like. >violent suburban kids have for the most part come from homes >that are hardto critize — look at the actual kids >involved in the most horrendous violent episodes.
Yes… >Most have been raised in church, some have been boy scouts, >several have had extensive psychiatric care
Yes… >and parents who were attentive
Questionable, what do you mean by attentive? >There are lots of things that contribute to growing >violence in our society — but most of them don’t seem >connected with the child rearing practices that drive >us nuts at the grocery store or on the airplane.
The key word here is *seem*. Every thing in this world comes from somewhere. When we raise our children we are giving them a foundation to become what they will. The rude kids that *do not* have any consequences for their actions will probably become the ones who committ the horrible act. The rude kids who *do* have consequences will probably learn that it’s wrong and not act that way in future situations. Example: If one could take 2 clones of a child and raise them in completely different ways don’t you think they would be totally different people by the time they grew up. One was taught rules and morals and was been held accoutable for their actions. and the other was let to do as they pleased. There would be a tremendous difference. >real question is why the mentally ill teens today use guns to
commit massacres — when mentally ill teens 30 years ago didn’t. Who *really* knows. Violence has become a norm in our society. So it is their option. They seem to take it maybe because they have not been taught the value of life and morals. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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>20-30 years ago I used to routinely get beat up and threatened after >school,
Many kids go through this. It’s quite normal. I went through times of being picked on ahd also being the one to do the picking. It is part of childhood unfortunatly. But I never I mean *never* once worried that I may be killed. The thought *never* crossed my mind to worry that "Oh maybe today MY school will be shot up?" > I lived in fear to walk my neighborhood, our windows >had several bullet holes through them, and our apt. was >burglerized despite 3 locks on our door and a lock on >the front door of the building.
Saddly not all neighborhoods are the safest. Maybe yours was one of those. > What was so great about the 70’s?
Nothing. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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> >We have had a generation of spineless parenting and >we are paying the consequences for it. > I totally agree with this statement! > One has to wonder about the parenting styles of today vs. 20-30 > years ago. The kids back then did not have even close to the > amount of violence that they do today. Why have they learned to > be SO violent? I think alot of it has to do with parents not > being strict enough and not teaching every day morals and rules.
violent kids from broken homes in poverty in the ghettos are nothing new. violent suburban kids have for the most part come from homes that are hard to critize — look at the actual kids involved in the most horrendous violent episodes. Most have been raised in church, some have been boy scouts, several have had extensive psychiatric care and parents who were attentive — There are lots of things that contribute to growing violence in our society — but most of them don’t seem connected with the child rearing practices that drive us nuts at the grocery store or on the airplane. The real question is why the mentally ill teens today use guns to commit massacres — when mentally ill teens 30 years ago didn’t.
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> >We have had a generation of spineless parenting and >we are paying the consequences for it. > I totally agree with this statement! > One has to wonder about the parenting styles of today vs. 20-30 > years ago. The kids back then did not have even close to the > amount of violence that they do today. Why have they learned to > be SO violent? I think alot of it has to do with parents not > being strict enough and not teaching every day morals and rules.
20-30 years ago I used to routinely get beat up and threatened after school, I lived in fear to walk my neighborhood, our windows had several bullet holes through them, and our apt. was burglerized despite 3 locks on our door and a lock on the front door of the building. What was so great about the 70’s? Enid
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>We have had a >generation of spineless parenting and we >are paying the consequences >for it. >Mz Pants
I couldn’t agree more. Well said. Later, Sophie mom to Charlotte (19 months) and Patrick (3 months)
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>We have had a generation of spineless parenting and >we are paying the consequences for it.
I totally agree with this statement! One has to wonder about the parenting styles of today vs. 20-30 years ago. The kids back then did not have even close to the amount of violence that they do today. Why have they learned to be SO violent? I think alot of it has to do with parents not being strict enough and not teaching every day morals and rules. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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>I definitely think there are the two extremes I agree.
kids learn what they live. The extreme is in the parenting style IMO. >constantly saying "hiya" to everybody she passes in the street and I would >say that 9 out of 10 adults ignore her.
That is wonderful(the friendliness of your dd). I’d encourage her to keep it up. This world has become entirely too unfriendly! >My view is that alot of the adults are the brats and > their children just follow suit.
I totally agree here. like a said, kids learn what they live! They see the way their parents deal in the world and do the same exact things as well. It is quite sad really… * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> LOL. Anytime I find myself questioning my parenting I seek solace at Chuck E > Cheeses. All it takes is an hour of watching other kids acting up, pushing > other kids, throwing ball pit balls around, climbing on the outside of any > structure, pushing smaller kids away from their games, and being bullies in the > ball pit as I watch my kids play nicely and have the manners they should have, > say excuse me , thank you and please – to realize that I’m doing it right after > all. > Kendra > ~*~ > Y2Kings!
I am amazed at the sheer violence that overcomes some children when they get into a ball pit!! Last time we were in chuck e cheese I was stunned to see the look of hatred on some of the childrens faces when they slammed balls at each other. Their parents weren’t even around. J Before you buy.
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>2 : the son or daughter of a career military >person
Uh oh. It seems I have brats too. My husband is a career Marine. Lol. Later, Sophie mom to Charlotte (19 months) and Patrick (3 months)
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> >Maybe you have brats. I have children. >Enid > HA HA HA with that repsone I bet your children are brats! > Mz Pants
Sounds right to me; can I get in on that bet?
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How true! I’ve been reprimanded by my oldest daughter to refrain from talking about her classwork and/or behavior to other moms…. sadly… she’s right. I mean it does help to get input from other parents on things that stump us, but not to the extent where we end up bashing our own kids. — Jackie M. SAHM to three wonderful kids "Beginning today, treat everyone you meet as if he or she were going to them all the care, kindness, and understanding you can muster, and do so with no thought of any reward. Your life will never be the same again." http://www.geocities.com/jackiemulroy
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi > My experience is the exact opposite. > Over and over again I listen to parents putting their children down, often > in their earshot. I wonder how a child can develop into a self-respecting > adult when they have been told over and over again how inadequate they are > as children. > Love > Kay > Notice how everyone thinks they are the most wonderful parents and > none of their kids are brats?
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>LOL. Anytime I find myself questioning my parenting
I seek solace at Chuck E >Cheeses. All it takes is an hour of watching other
kids acting up, pushing >other kids, throwing ball pit balls around, climbing
on the outside of any >structure, pushing smaller kids away from their games,
and being bullies in the >ball pit as I watch my kids play nicely and have the
manners they should have, >say excuse me , thank you and please – to realize that
I’m doing it right after >all.
My kids are those rare ones that have manners, also. It makes me feel sad for them when they are playing and everyone else pushes past them and gets in front of them and since they are taught not to push other kids, they can’t do anything. Some kids are really wild. Marie http://go.to/mommydowis – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Kendra >~*~ >Y2Kings!
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I definitely think there are the two extremes I agree. I’m lucky my children are brats at home but the minute they step over the front door they turn into little angels. They are smiley, kind and polite to everybody they meet. If they threw tantrums in the shops etc then plenty of people would comment or frown at you but my daughter is "Little Miss Friendly" and is constantly saying "hiya" to everybody she passes in the street and I would say that 9 out of 10 adults ignore her. My view is that alot of the adults are the brats and their children just follow suit. — Jaquie (working mom to Hollie 27 months and Harry 12 months) Birmingham UK – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Over and over again I listen to parents putting their children down, often > in their earshot. I wonder how a child can develop into a self-respecting > adult when they have been told over and over again how inadequate they are > as children. > Love > Kay > Notice how everyone thinks they are the most wonderful parents and > none of their kids are brats?
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>Maybe you have brats. I have children. >Enid
HA HA HA with that repsone I bet your children are brats! Mz Pants
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I was in a restaurant one day and these preteens – 3 of them – were >sitting with their mom in the next booth. They were goofing off and next >thing I knew, a milkshake landed on my head. I was wearing an expensive >suit. >The restaurant manager was very apologetic and offered to pay for the >drycleaning. The mother, however, did not say one word to her children. >Finally she came up to me, 15 minutes later, and offered a whimpy >apology. I was really upset by this point, and I snapped at her, "You >didn’t do it, your kids did. I want an apology from them." >She walked back to the table angrily, but said not one word to her >children, made not one move to have them come apologize directly to me. >I just don’t get it. Maybe everyone is afraid of being sued, and so we >teach our kids to dodge blame? >jen
Then you know exactly what I am talking about. We have had a generation of spineless parenting and we are paying the consequences for it. Mz Pants
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Personally..My children are adorable, energetic, loving, fun, precious, and they are the most treasured creatures in my life….but, each and every one of them are BRATS!! All children are brats! According to the merriam/webster dictionary. This is what it has to say: Main Entry: brat Pronunciation: ‘brat Function: noun Etymology: perhaps from English dialect brat (coarse garment) 1 a : CHILD; specifically : an ill-mannered annoying child b : an ill-mannered immature person 2 : the son or daughter of a career military person – brat
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