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news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Elaine Gallant" >BUSTED. Look how similar these addresses are……
Well, Neesa’s in Canada and I live in Atlanta (Texas, that is!). Next time, please post OT and don’t waste the time of this ng trying to sully the usenet reputations of Neesa and I. You come off looking moronic and mean. Ben * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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what a stupid cunt. why not speak on topic for a change? you must have small tits like the rest of the frustrated cunts here. cheers, jeroen 
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ^. Neesa >BUSTED. Look how similar these addresses are, and this note following so >closely after the first. This is one person, apparently a spanking freak, >trying to make other methods of discipline, like the time-out, seem invalid.
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Thank you charlene and Ben for "saving" my rep. And yes I agree, it is obvious that Elaine has a lack of parental experience. Tonight I think we are going to go for a huge talk about behaviour and consequences. I know he will understand what he is being and told and hopefully he will give me some insight as to what is triggering these irrational outbursts. However, I guess I’d better tackle his confusion over what happen at school today. His prinicipal just died last night and Quinn wants to know why don’t someone just buy him new batteries!!?? lol…Does it ever end??? Thank you so much all of you for your input and expereinces. Everyone that is, except Elaine. Neesa * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Go get em’ young lady. Ben * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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>Neesa, Elaine is a veteran of nearly fifty newsgroups where she >pulls the same act. Ignore the troll.
Hmmm, the pot calls the kettle black. For the record, Elaine does not (as far as I know) spend her time spoofing other people’s posts in an attempt to get them into trouble. (Hey, did I just defend Elaine? Egads, what’s the world coming to?) We know your act, Mr. Malone. We’ve seen your posting history. So take your gambit somewhere else. It lost its amusement value a long time ago, if it ever had one. — Be well, Barbara (Julian [7/22/97] and Aurora’s [7/19/99] mom) * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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>We know your act, Mr. Malone. We’ve seen your posting history. So >take your gambit somewhere else. It lost its amusement value a >long time ago, if it ever had one.
we have seen your posting history as well. no amusement at all, nothing of importance said, lots of self righteous preaching and the usual know-it-all american attitude. try spending more time raising your litter than wasting our time with your bogus research you stupid bitch. cheers, jeroen * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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I’m not so much interested in who is spoofing who here. Nor do I really care. I do hate unfounded accusations however. We talked last night, starting with explaining why we could not just buy his prinicipal new batteries, and then with the behaviour problems. He didn’t give me any explaination, but understood what I was saying and why I was upset. He apologized quite a few times actually. It kinda made ME feel bad. But anyway, long story short, He was much better today, and has had only one time-out (so far). We’ll see. I have also told him that after so many time-out’s he will lose one weeks allowance. If he wants to earn it back he will have to go 2 days with NO time-outs. I’m not sure that this will work, but today alone has seen a change, and I’m hoping that I have done this the right way. Thanks again everyone, and Ericka too for emailing me. Neesa * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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ooops sorry Elaine, but I live in Oshawa Ontario and God knows where he lives, and if you had have read the post I DO NOT spank. I DO USE time-out’s. So guess what?? Your wrong. But thanks for nothing. Neesa * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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> Boy, do I know what you mean > Let me tell you my experience on this and maybe it will help you.
Hi! That is so wonderful! Thank you for sharing that with us. Well done to you all!!! I couldn’t agree more. Love Kay
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Neesa, Elaine is a veteran of nearly fifty newsgroups where she pulls the same act. Ignore the troll. Ben * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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I see absolutely no similarity in those two addresses, except that they have NOneSPAM in them, and they both end in .invalid. there are hundreds of other addresses similar to this. Charlene
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ^. > BUSTED. Look how similar these addresses are, and this note following so > closely after the first. This is one person, apparently a spanking freak, > trying to make other methods of discipline, like the time-out, seem invalid.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is something bogus about this post. > I’m not even sure I’m using the correct term, but I do know I am > ready to pull my hair out strand by strand. My near 5 year old > seems to think he knows everything and I know nothing. I tell > him that he cannot do something, and give him the reason why he > cannot, and he tells me that he can do whatever he wants. He > demands that I do or get him certain things (which I never give > into) > If you never gave into his screams and demands, he would not continue acting > that way. There’s just something too slick about this post.
Sorry Elaine, but you obviously must not have kids. That just simply isn’t true. Sometimes they act out NOT just to get the result that they want and think they will get, but as a reaction to something internal that they probably don’t even understand. This child might not be trying to manipulate his mother so much as to try to sort out his own feelings, whatever those might be. He shouldn’t be taught to think that treating others this way is OK, however, and I completely agree with Rebecca’s post about how mom should deal with him. I think sometimes it helps though to take a step back and try to understand the child’s behaviour, what might be causing it, before any kind of action is taken to correct it. It just helps to know how to approach the problem. Charlene
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BUSTED. Look how similar these addresses are, and this note following so closely after the first. This is one person, apparently a spanking freak, trying to make other methods of discipline, like the time-out, seem invalid.
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There is something bogus about this post.
> I’m not even sure I’m using the correct term, but I do know I am > ready to pull my hair out strand by strand. My near 5 year old > seems to think he knows everything and I know nothing. I tell > him that he cannot do something, and give him the reason why he > cannot, and he tells me that he can do whatever he wants. He > demands that I do or get him certain things (which I never give > into)
If you never gave into his screams and demands, he would not continue acting that way. There’s just something too slick about this post. and seems to have developed a real nasty, sutbborn mean – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> streak. When he is put in time-out he SCREAMS forever, then > comes out, and tells me he hates me and no longer wishes to live > with me. Keep in mind that this is a new thing for him. As a > general rule, he is a loving and calm child. I have tried > everything I can think of to stop this behaviour (he is not like > this at school or out in public or other people’s homes). > These outbursts are becoming more and more frequent. When I ask > him why he is acting out like this and what is it that he hopes > to accomplish all I get is a dirty look and a HMPH!! When he is > calmer and I am calmer we talk about why that behaviour is mean > and hurtful to me, and what is it that is bothering him to make > him act that way, and I basically get told it’s none of my > business and he doesn’t want to talk about it. > I hate this, and I am at my wits end. One minute he is a > loving, helpful easy go lucky kid, and the next he is a > nightmare waiting to happen. I don’t know what else to do, my > eyes are bleary from reading articles and web pages. Nothing > seems to work. I want to figure this out and get him to talk to > me, but to no avail. Is this a stage??? Is there ANYTHING else > I can try?? > It is disrupting our lives, especially my younger son who is > confused as to why his brother is helping and calling > him "buddy" one minute and playing away, and the next is lashing > out at him, telling him he hates his brother and to go away and > leave him alone. I admit to being at my wits end, confused and > very worried about him. Mostly confused at how a sweet and > nurturing boy can have such a mean streak at times. Any ideas?? > Thanks > Neesa > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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>I’m not even sure I’m using the correct term, but I do know I am >ready to pull my hair out strand by strand. My near 5 year old >seems to think he knows everything and I know nothing……
Neesa, you have yet to establish the simple but necessary relationship boundaries…..who is the parent and who is the child. Talk to him, nurture him, love him….and when that fails, bend that little sonofabi.. over your knee. There is only one boss. Don’t be influenced by the philosophy of "new parenting". Don’t negotiate with Baby over his future. Ben * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Boy, do I know what you mean Let me tell you my experience on this and maybe it will help you. My son used to do the same thing. And he would do it in school as well! Because his dad and I divorced after which we (me and kids) moved back to Holland I felt sorry for this child. Whenever I would ask him about his behaviour he would give me the standard answer. : "I miss my daddy" So I felt bad for him. Loved him lots, let him get away with lots. I treated him like a delicate flower. His behaviour got worse. When he didn’t get his way he would yell, scream and even trow stuff at me. I was close to a nervous break down. We went for help. The counselor spoke with my son, and with me and my boyfriend several times. we found that yes, he is sad about the divorce and all that, but he is also taking advantage of my pity. I was adviced to be understanding but strict. So one evening we sat him down and had a serious talk with him. We told him that this behaviour was no longer acceptable. No matter how sad you feel, it’s no excuse for bad behaviour. We took away all his priviledges. (tv, play dates, gymnastics) and he could earn them back with good behaviour. We gave him chores to do in the house every day, and told him the consequenses of bad behaviour. (if he acted out in school, he could kiss his gymnastics class and scouting goodbye for example) He can come and talk to us at any time when he feels sad, and we love him very much. Too much to let him behave that way. The difference is stunning! The next day I picked him up from school and the teacher beamed at me saying: "Wow! what did you guys do?" We are now two weeks into this and had not one single bout of his temper yet. We tell him at the end of a good day how proud we are of him. He is much happier, much calmer. He seems to be even relieved. He knows where the rules stand, and this seems to give him peace of mind. It is hard for me to be strict with him at times. I melt away at those big brown eyes of his. I want him to be happy, so I used to try too hard to keep him happy. And it didn’t work. Now that I have taken charge, he is much happier! And I am much happier. Maybe you do need to just take charge. Tell your child that you will not be treated like that. Sit him down and explain your plans to him and be prepared to follow through with any consequence you have ‘threatened" him with. He will test you to see if you are serious! I don’t know what brought on the change in him. It might be an "age"thing where he wants to test you and see if he can get away with it. I am not a spanker myself, but a swift swat on the back side might ‘jump’ him out of a fit. You could pick him up and put him in his room. Don’t let him treat you like this. You are worth more then that! You owe it to yourself and to him to stop this kind of thing. You can be firm but loving at the same time. hope this helps. sorry this got so long Becca
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Thank You and Yes it does help to know I am not the only one!! I know you are right and that I need to take charge, and last night while tossing and turning, I thought of what may have set him off. I am due to go for MAJOR usrgery, 10-12 hours on the table, and 12-18mnths recovery. I have been struggling with this for a little while, because I would like to put it off. Admittedly I have been a little distracted and unsettled, and he no doubtly is picking up on this. I have been taking things away for bad behaviour (ie he hasn’t seen his bike in over two weeks) and it might work for a day, but we are right back at it. He does spend a lot of time in the corner though. I too, hate to spank. (I firmly believe it hurts me more then him) My mother also told me the same thing. If he needs it, he needs it. I’m unsure. However I totally agree that I have some where along the line I lost control. Last night with him was a nightmare, and got VERY little sleep even after he had been long gone to bed wrestling with. Thanks to both of you for a different and maybe even a keener eye on the situation, and for letting me know that my child is not the only power hungry little gaffer out there!! Neesa * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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I’m not even sure I’m using the correct term, but I do know I am ready to pull my hair out strand by strand. My near 5 year old seems to think he knows everything and I know nothing. I tell him that he cannot do something, and give him the reason why he cannot, and he tells me that he can do whatever he wants. He demands that I do or get him certain things (which I never give into) and seems to have developed a real nasty, sutbborn mean streak. When he is put in time-out he SCREAMS forever, then comes out, and tells me he hates me and no longer wishes to live with me. Keep in mind that this is a new thing for him. As a general rule, he is a loving and calm child. I have tried everything I can think of to stop this behaviour (he is not like this at school or out in public or other people’s homes). These outbursts are becoming more and more frequent. When I ask him why he is acting out like this and what is it that he hopes to accomplish all I get is a dirty look and a HMPH!! When he is calmer and I am calmer we talk about why that behaviour is mean and hurtful to me, and what is it that is bothering him to make him act that way, and I basically get told it’s none of my business and he doesn’t want to talk about it. I hate this, and I am at my wits end. One minute he is a loving, helpful easy go lucky kid, and the next he is a nightmare waiting to happen. I don’t know what else to do, my eyes are bleary from reading articles and web pages. Nothing seems to work. I want to figure this out and get him to talk to me, but to no avail. Is this a stage??? Is there ANYTHING else I can try?? It is disrupting our lives, especially my younger son who is confused as to why his brother is helping and calling him "buddy" one minute and playing away, and the next is lashing out at him, telling him he hates his brother and to go away and leave him alone. I admit to being at my wits end, confused and very worried about him. Mostly confused at how a sweet and nurturing boy can have such a mean streak at times. Any ideas?? Thanks Neesa * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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