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>Maybe it’s just that Canadians have a more delicate sense of our public >personna. We are considered by world sociologists a more sensitive and >conservative bunch.
That’s true…being married to a Canadian and having lived in Canada for several years, I can attest to the conservative leanings of Canadians…like Mary Walsh doing the news in her underwear, and the official head of the minority party, Preston Manning allowing himself to be filmed singing in his underwear, and Jean Chretien (Canadian prime minister) putting a protester in a head lock on national tv…oh, yes, Canadian’s are much more conservative than Americans. Did I mention the provincially funded motorcycle gang (the wolverines)/police officers they have in Quebec? Anybody ever hear of the language police…very conservative bunch, they regulate what you can name your children…again, fully funded by the provincial government. Please don’t see this as a suggestion that Americans are more comfortable to live around…I don’t walk alone at night anymore. And I avoid irritating other drivers on the hyway much more than I did in Montreal but, delicate? Conservative? I believe these qualities are cross-cultural. Warm regards, Angela Where are we going? And what are we doing in this handbasket?
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>You didn’t see us putting up any memorials to >these feats. >Bob
Dear Bob, Well, granted the memorial messages in Quebec are all in French <g>, so I could only guess at the feats they glorified but, last time I checked there was a currently sitting judgde there who had spent a year in jail for the oh-so conservative action of kidnapping a provicial minister and an English diplomat and kept them in such conditions that the minister was killed. No memorial to be sure…but, a highly respected and well paid sinecure, nonetheless. I honestly think that sensitivity and the lifestyle choices of conservativism vs liberalism are everywhere. Warm regards, Angela Where are we going? And what are we doing in this handbasket?
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Hi Angelo, You forgot that our contestant for an international beauty pageant from Nfld. that lost her position when she knocked out a fellow barroom patron with one punch ! I don’t believe that any of these things make us any less sensitive or conservative (g), You didn’t see us putting up any memorials to these feats. Bob — Please delete (nospam) from my E-mail address if you wish to respond.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Maybe it’s just that Canadians have a more delicate sense of our public >personna. We are considered by world sociologists a more sensitive and >conservative bunch. >That’s true…being married to a Canadian and having lived in Canada for >several years, I can attest to the conservative leanings of Canadians…like >Mary Walsh doing the news in her underwear, and the official head of the >minority party, Preston Manning allowing himself to be filmed singing in his >underwear, and Jean Chretien (Canadian prime minister) putting a protester in a >head lock on national tv…oh, yes, Canadian’s are much more conservative than >Americans. Did I mention the provincially funded motorcycle gang (the >wolverines)/police officers they have in Quebec? Anybody ever hear of the >language police…very conservative bunch, they regulate what you can name your >children…again, fully funded by the provincial government. >Please don’t see this as a suggestion that Americans are more comfortable to >live around…I don’t walk alone at night anymore. And I avoid irritating >other drivers on the hyway much more than I did in Montreal but, delicate? >Conservative? I believe these qualities are cross-cultural. >Warm regards, >Angela >Where are we going? And what are we doing in this handbasket?
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>Sure, she likes a joke >now and then, but so what? We all have our "flaws"… >although I don’t feel humor is really one of them. If you >do, JUST IGNORE IT. >You’re welcome to >stay or leave… just stop with the histrionics. They don’t >help. >Best regards, >LadyAndy2
So well said LadyAndy and I so totally agree!!!!!! Lori
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Congratulations Candy! What an honor. (winning dogshow ofcourse, not the Sjogren’s syndrome deal) That’s just way too cool. I once took my dog (golden retriever) to obedience school. It was great fun, and she even won top honors at the final class, but this is piddly stuff compared to a national competition. Hearty congratulations to you and your dog, too. Barbara Joy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Gee whiz, Krissy (sorry….er.."The Goddess") I go away for a week and all H*** > breaks loose! > I am glad you came back before I did (and the other lost sheep as well), I > really need the jokes to keep me going. Especially now that the RD has > tentively added Sjogren Syndrome to my list of complaints. > I had a great week playing dog show at the poodle national in Maryland (flew > me, my son, and 5 dogs cross country from Washington state). This > arthritic-around-the-edges poodle breeder/handler got winner’s dog (best male > miniature poodle) over 46 other dogs. I also ran around the agility course, > twice, with my agility dog without getting lost or falling down! The wonders > of modern drugs!! > Candy > Candace A. Hume > Tanzen Poodles > For poodle information: > Poodle Club of America www.swdg.com/pca > Versitility in Poodles www.pageweb.com/vipoodle
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My ego ain’t the only thing swelling up<BEWG> ~~~Kenny~~~
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Waldo – A double blessing is a double grace! Occasion smiles upon a second leave. Translation: Gee, you’ve written me twice today! And I totally agree with you, but will throw out a feeble argument, just for practice. (When my son was nine, he bet me that he >could crack my lock-out code. It took him about two hours)
Believe me, I know how resourceful juvenile delinquents can be – I was one! And a friend once said about kids and locks, the lock won’t stop ‘em, but it will slow a down a good bit. Also, I’ve had a lot of experience with Dos, and have done all my own low-level formatting/partitioning, changing out of hard disks and controllers, etc. for years on several machines, but I couldn’t figure out how to disable CyberPatrol. I try not to let them have a "2 hour" go at trying to crack the access code. >You can’t be with >your kids all the time, and they will come across this stuff eventually.
Well, yes and no. I mean, of course they will, "eventually," but you gotta admit, Waldo, the net offers a level of "bad influence" to all kids with access heretofore unknown to children anywhere. They don’t even have to go face a store clerk to obtain it, either, as it flows right into their living room! >For me, honesty and openness has always been the best
approach: If we come >across something I feel is inappropriate, I tell them to keep away from it, >and more importantly, try to explain *why* I feel that way, and to encourage >discussion.
I couldn’t agree more, oh wisest one west of the Rockies, and I do the same thing. Doesn’t mean I think I’ve *convinced* them, though. <g> >Simply forbidding kids from something (whether it be porno, >drugs, sex, or what have you) seems only to increase their
curiosity. Maybe we should be over in alt.parenting.solutions with this, since it is not an XXX-rated joke, but I don’t "simply forbid" them. I forbid them and threaten them with dire consequences! <g> No, believe me, having learned the leason you speak of the hard way, when I was young and curious, I know you to be heart-breakingly correct. It’s just that I have also learned that the wise parent, in addition to explaining the reason "why not" (repeatedly), makes it as hard as reasonably possible for them to wander too far off the path of virtue. Cush.
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> face 1 too many times with your snotty & I don’t give a damn about your kids > attitude so READ MY LIPS – I don’t need any more stress in my life so I.m > out of here!!! The door won’t slam into my back but into your face!! > Goodbye everyone – I hope my posts have been supportive to those I’ve tried > to help & I’ll miss those who’ve also tried to help the others. > All I wanted was to "Talk Arthritis" like the NG title suggests!!!!!. > Regretfully Susan
Awwwwww Susan, lighten up!!! Life is not all doom and gloom!!! We have enough to cope with and a little humor helps the medicine go down! Flat out: your children shouldn’t be reading this newsgroup, they shouldn’t be surfing the Net without supervision, adults have needs that children don’t have and some of us like the jokes, as long as there’s arthritis information as a balance. There. That’s mine. Linda in NC — Linda’s Wisdom: Nothing is as easy as it looks. Researching Hahn/Hawn/Honn family: http://users.twave.net/lhsetzer/hahn.html
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> but just this morning I recieved an email from a member of the group >calling me a dirty whore.
Let me guess, it was from someone whining that we don’t spend enough time talking about arthritis and giving support. Sarah L
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>Finally, Krissy, I find your hypocrisy in this whole issue >amusing.
Good Cush! if you find it amusing, then I have made you smile. And that is what I aim to do. >you are going out of your way to >be foul-mouthed, as if you want to be as objectionable as >possible.
Honestly, I have tried to tone down my attitude and language since I have been back. How many X jokes have I posted in the last two days? How many "potty mouth" words have I typed? >You and your defenders can talk about all the support you’ve >given all you want.
Yes we can talk about and we do. But ya know Cush, I could be wrong, but I dont ever recall seeing you answer a post where someone is asking for support. IE: bad dr’s appt, general arthur stress or whatever.It’s pretty uncommon to see your good thoughts being sent the way of someone feeling down. Unless a post asks for advice on GS/CS or is something that you can start ranting about, you dont answer it. So Mr Cushman, dont go lecturing me about support. Still Smilin’ ~Krissy "The most thoroughly wasted of all days is that in which one has not laughed." Nicolas Chamfort
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>Alright! Let’s talk ARTHRITIS!(damn echo again!) >If we keep up this thread with my name at the top, my ego will swell to the >point where I may have to insist that I be referred to in all further posts >as >The Goddess KrissyJo.<G> And I know you dont want that to happen!!!!!!! >Keep Smilin’ >"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is that > in which one has not laughed." Nicolas Chamfort
Gee whiz, Krissy (sorry….er.."The Goddess") I go away for a week and all H*** breaks loose! I am glad you came back before I did (and the other lost sheep as well), I really need the jokes to keep me going. Especially now that the RD has tentively added Sjogren Syndrome to my list of complaints. I had a great week playing dog show at the poodle national in Maryland (flew me, my son, and 5 dogs cross country from Washington state). This arthritic-around-the-edges poodle breeder/handler got winner’s dog (best male miniature poodle) over 46 other dogs. I also ran around the agility course, twice, with my agility dog without getting lost or falling down! The wonders of modern drugs!! Candy Candace A. Hume Tanzen Poodles For poodle information: Poodle Club of America www.swdg.com/pca Versitility in Poodles www.pageweb.com/vipoodle
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> And that’s my two cents worth! > Barb
Worth more than 2 cents in my opinion. Heidi
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Hey Goddess! Glad you’re back, and in fine form too!! Jane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Alright! Let’s talk ARTHRITIS!(damn echo again!) >If we keep up this thread with my name at the top, my ego will swell to the >point where I may have to insist that I be referred to in all further posts as >The Goddess KrissyJo.<G> And I know you dont want that to happen!!!!!!! >Keep Smilin’ >"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is that > in which one has not laughed." Nicolas Chamfort
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Krissy, good to have you back. I agree with you wholeheartedly. I do all I can to see that my young children live in a G-rated world, as much as possible. I however, do NOT. I watch TV shows, read books and access internet sites (such as this) my children cannot, I have sex, my children do not. There are many legitimate sexual concerns some adults with arthritis face, loss of libido, hip involvement in women, lubrication problems, bra problems, etc. that we need to feel free to discuss as adults with other adults. I also do not *always* have a G-rated sense of humour. Heidi – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I know I’m stirring the pot but I just don’t understand your attitude & >complete lack of caring for minors. You nastily stated that if our children >saw some offensive jokes that they better run to let their Mummy know that >there is a nasty lady saying bad things. Why don’t you show some respect >for those that truly want to limit what comes into their homes. > Susan, > I have a great respect for those that want to limit what comes into their > homes. I limit what my children see and hear. But *I* limit that. I monitor > what they do. That is *my* responisiblity as a parent. As it it the > reponsiblity of all parents to monitor and control what their children do. > And if you would go back and read previous posts, you would see that I talk > about arthritis *alot* more than I tell jokes!!!! And I have helped alot of > people. >You have slapped me in the >face 1 too many times with your snotty & I don’t give a damn about your kids >attitude > I give a damn about kids, one look at the 6 children that are sitting at my > table eating breakfast right now would show you that. But when they are done > eating, these kids are not going to read newsgroups on the internet. >All I wanted was to "Talk Arthritis" like the NG title suggests!!!!! > There is plenty of that. You just have to overlook the things you dont like. > There are alot of things I dont like, and I came back and will overlook them > from now on. > Sorry you feel as though you must leave. It will be truly be your loss, as I > found out myself. I lost alot those few days I was gone. > I cant imagine letting one person upset me enough to make me leave. You dont > have to read my posts. You can continue to give support and learn, just ignore > me. I am one of many people here. > Sorry you feel you must leave. > ~Krissy > "The most thoroughly wasted of all days is that > in which one has not laughed." Nicolas Chamfort
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>Dear Diane and Susan, >I noticed that the two of you are pretty much of one mind when it comes to >this issue. I also noticed that both of your e-mail
addresses originate at >www.hwcn.org (Hamilton- Wentworth Community). Is this a coincidence, or are >you guys friends/ cousins/ siamese twins? Perhapse its a regional attitude?
Boy, Waldo, you have a lot of nerve talking about someone’s e-mail address. Harv’s educated us about you Hotmailers and what you’re up to. <g> >At any rate, if you allow your kids to surf the net, or even browse the >newsgroups unsupervised, I’m sorry to say that KrissJo, Porter, and the >others of this group are the LEAST of your problems. These are dangerous >waters. There are plenty of other NG’s (Which will go
unnamed, to save you >from temptation) that consist of pure filth, and are just as easily accesable >to your little angels.
Not true for me, oh normally incredibly wise one. I use CyberPatrol. I have it set so that, without my password the kids cannot get into any URL’s or NG’s except the ones I have approved and left unlocked. (My 12 year old would figure out how to turn off my browser’s filter ("kill-file") in about 7 seconds.) I would prefer to leave a.s.a. unlocked for my own convenience, but it’s not that big a deal to me. But just because I don’t have a particular problem doesn’t mean I cannot identify with those who do. Well, sometimes, anyway. <g> Cush.
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Alright! Let’s talk ARTHRITIS!(damn echo again!) If we keep up this thread with my name at the top, my ego will swell to the point where I may have to insist that I be referred to in all further posts as The Goddess KrissyJo.<G> And I know you dont want that to happen!!!!!!! Keep Smilin’ "The most thoroughly wasted of all days is that in which one has not laughed." Nicolas Chamfort
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> READ MY LIPS – I don’t need any more stress in my life so I.m >out of here!!! The door won’t slam into my back but into your face!! >Goodbye everyone – I hope my posts have been supportive to those I’ve tried >to help & I’ll miss those who’ve also tried to help the others. >All I wanted was to "Talk Arthritis" like the NG title suggests!!!!!. >Regretfully Susan
I’m sorry to hear that, Susan. When I first found out I had arthritis I was really angry. I wanted all the information in the world and I wanted it right now. Add to that all the pain, panic and my adorable personality anyway, I really didn’t believe that I had any time to *waste*. I was a woman with a mission. Add to that a lot of pain that just would not give me even a five minute break and I developed a dour perspective for a few months until I moved into another stage of the grieving process. Consider that we are all at different stages of our diseases, using different coping mechanisms. Everytime we respond to a person on this newsgroup, we are responding to a person in pain, facing an uncertain future. Sometimes I’ve had knee-jerk (accent on the *jerk*) to posts. It’s usually at 3:00AM when I’m rocking in pain. When I’m really suffering I may not take the time to stand back and remember that the offender may be in the same or worse shape, with the same lousy perspective. One of the gifts we give children and the elderly is usually to give them a lot of space to be themselves. It’s not too much to ask for that here. Try lightening up. P.S. This doesn’t mean we don’t love you anymore. : ) Carol Human beings are flawed individuals…the cosmic bakers took us out a little too early. That’s why we’re as crazy as we are—Jimmy Buffett
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>I know I’m stirring the pot but I just don’t understand your attitude & >complete lack of caring for minors. You nastily stated that if our children >saw some offensive jokes that they better run to let their Mummy know that >there is a nasty lady saying bad things. Why don’t you show some respect >for those that truly want to limit what comes into their homes.
Susan, I have a great respect for those that want to limit what comes into their homes. I limit what my children see and hear. But *I* limit that. I monitor what they do. That is *my* responisiblity as a parent. As it it the reponsiblity of all parents to monitor and control what their children do. And if you would go back and read previous posts, you would see that I talk about arthritis *alot* more than I tell jokes!!!! And I have helped alot of people. >You have slapped me in the >face 1 too many times with your snotty & I don’t give a damn about your kids >attitude
I give a damn about kids, one look at the 6 children that are sitting at my table eating breakfast right now would show you that. But when they are done eating, these kids are not going to read newsgroups on the internet. >All I wanted was to "Talk Arthritis" like the NG title suggests!!!!!
There is plenty of that. You just have to overlook the things you dont like. There are alot of things I dont like, and I came back and will overlook them from now on. Sorry you feel as though you must leave. It will be truly be your loss, as I found out myself. I lost alot those few days I was gone. I cant imagine letting one person upset me enough to make me leave. You dont have to read my posts. You can continue to give support and learn, just ignore me. I am one of many people here. Sorry you feel you must leave. ~Krissy "The most thoroughly wasted of all days is that in which one has not laughed." Nicolas Chamfort
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>You’ve done it again. Is there something pathological (or is it just >pathetic) about you that you can’t just talk ARTHRITIS on this NG?
I beleive it is a character defect. >I resent your attitude but I’m not leaving.
Good for you!!!! I’m am truly glad to hear that!!! Now if you can convince Susan to do the same. ~Krissy "The most thoroughly wasted of all days is that in which one has not laughed." Nicolas Chamfort
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>And if you would go back and read previous posts, you would see that I talk >about arthritis *alot* more than I tell jokes!!!! And I have helped alot of >people. >There is plenty of that. You just have to overlook the things you dont like. >There are alot of things I dont like, and I came back and will overlook them >from now on.
Very true… I can testify to YEARS of reading Krissy’s supportive and informative posts. Sure, she likes a joke now and then, but so what? We all have our "flaws"… although I don’t feel humor is really one of them. If you do, JUST IGNORE IT. The people around here who think they can control this newsgroup to make it *just* the way they want all the time are sorely mistaken. I’m sorry some of you think this is a place to draw a line in the sand, but I don’t. First, you’ll never win if see this as a contest of wills or a competition or a war. It simply is not set up that way, and that’s how usenet is. Relax and enjoy the parts you like… and stop trying to make the whole world the way you think it should be. Remember how many hundreds and hundreds of people come through here… many come for a few months and get the information they want, then leave without a comment or help for anyone else. They take and do not give… then remember all the times Krissy took time out to help someone with their questions, offer her help and support, and yes, an occasional joke or quip. She is willing to stay and to make this place a more comfortable resource for many… a valuable asset to the group, if you ask me. Given my druthers, I’ll take the dose of fun with my medicine, thank you. I laugh and joke with my rheumy all the time, and appreciate his little stories when I see him almost as much as the shots and prescriptions. That’s part of making me feel he sees me as a human being. Relax and join this human place… help someone if you can, laugh if you can (can you?), and let the rest of us find our support where we can. You’re welcome to stay or leave… just stop with the histrionics. They don’t help. Best regards, LadyAndy2
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I know I’m stirring the pot but I just don’t understand your attitude & complete lack of caring for minors. You nastily stated that if our children saw some offensive jokes that they better run to let their Mummy know that there is a nasty lady saying bad things. Why don’t you show some respect for those that truly want to limit what comes into their homes. You have several outlets for offensive jokes while there aren’t any other give & take outlets for arthritics. I actually have a very gross mind but don’t let it out where kids can get a hold of anything of the offensive nature! I’ve been up most of the night after your last post trying to figure out why you say what you did, I was very, very upset!!!!! You have slapped me in the face 1 too many times with your snotty & I don’t give a damn about your kids attitude so READ MY LIPS – I don’t need any more stress in my life so I.m out of here!!! The door won’t slam into my back but into your face!! Goodbye everyone – I hope my posts have been supportive to those I’ve tried to help & I’ll miss those who’ve also tried to help the others. All I wanted was to "Talk Arthritis" like the NG title suggests!!!!!. Regretfully Susan
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Well KrissyJo You’ve done it again. Is there something pathological (or is it just pathetic) about you that you can’t just talk ARTHRITIS on this NG? I resent your attitude but I’m not leaving. I’ll forward any onteresting ARTHRITIS articles to Susan. Let’s talk ARTHRITIS! Diane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know I’m stirring the pot but I just don’t understand your attitude & > complete lack of caring for minors. You nastily stated that if our children > saw some offensive jokes that they better run to let their Mummy know that > there is a nasty lady saying bad things. Why don’t you show some respect > for those that truly want to limit what comes into their homes. You have > several outlets for offensive jokes while there aren’t any other give & take > outlets for arthritics. I actually have a very gross mind but don’t let it > out where kids can get a hold of anything of the offensive nature! I’ve > been up most of the night after your last post trying to figure out why you > say what you did, I was very, very upset!!!!! You have slapped me in the > face 1 too many times with your snotty & I don’t give a damn about your kids > attitude so READ MY LIPS – I don’t need any more stress in my life so I.m > out of here!!! The door won’t slam into my back but into your face!! > Goodbye everyone – I hope my posts have been supportive to those I’ve tried > to help & I’ll miss those who’ve also tried to help the others. > All I wanted was to "Talk Arthritis" like the NG title suggests!!!!!. > Regretfully Susan
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Hi Susan, I am sorry that you are upset. You have a right to voice what is bothering you and I understand that you would like for the offensive things to not be placed in this NG. I personally do not chose to read anything that is labeled X, But I cannot tell anyone else how they should behave, except my children. We all are responsible for the things that we speak and I believe your own words said, " I actually have a very gross mind but don’t let it out where kids can get a hold of anything of the offensive nature!" Where do you let it out? I have always known that offences would come across my path sometime, but it is how I respond that speaks the loudest. Can we look for the good in each other? What you have to share with this group is all that should matter to you. Continue with the group and help the hurting. Offer twice as much good for what you see that offends you. You are valuable to us all. Please reconsider ok? The door that you closed is just as easily opened and just pass over the X stuff. End that stress right here. I do have to have some humor though. I love to laugh! I know you do too!! Sincerely, Shawn
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When I first began lurking here, I did come for information on RA but started to read some of the more humorous posts as well. Eventually they became the highlight of my visits here. Yes there is a lot of information and help and support here but I think the jokes helped me to see that one can still laugh through this disease even on bad days. There were days I felt so awful that nothing was going to pull me out of my black mood but signing on here and reading some of the quips and humour always brought a smile to my face. I wouldn’t change this group for anything. Although I don’t know the regulars here yet, I have seen many of their contributions and know they would be sorely missed if they were gone. I just didn’t read the X rated stuff because that is not my "flavour" of humour. I’ve always believed live and let live. If we all were so insistent on having things our own way, life would be one big battle. And that’s my two cents worth! Barb
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Quite so! Sarah B. 
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You guys have no right to determine the tone of this or any other usenet.. this is an *unmoderated* group and the only posts restricted by FAQs are commercial ones. Also, Krissy Jo has had a *lot* of support, something of which you seem unaware. Gwen — "Live as one already dead." –Japanese saying If one tells the truth one is sure, sooner or later, to be found out. –Oscar Wilde
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Beautifully said Andy. Ditto from me. Marlynn A day in which I haven’t learned something new is a day lost……
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Dear Diane and Susan, I noticed that the two of you are pretty much of one mind when it comes to this issue. I also noticed that both of your e-mail addresses originate at www.hwcn.org (Hamilton- Wentworth Community). Is this a coincidence, or are you guys friends/ cousins/ siamese twins? Perhapse its a regional attitude? At any rate, if you allow your kids to surf the net, or even browse the newsgroups unsupervised, I’m sorry to say that KrissJo, Porter, and the others of this group are the LEAST of your problems. These are dangerous waters. There are plenty of other NG’s (Which will go unnamed, to save you from temptation) that consist of pure filth, and are just as easily accesable to your little angels. If you’re cleaning up the world, and thought that ASA was a good place to start, good luck. Let me know if you need to borrow a broom. In the meantime, it may not be a bad idea to be frank with your children, and talk over the issues that each will have to confront at sometime. Or you can simply cover their eyes, and try to postpone their exposure for as long as possible. If that be the case, beware of the "Minister’s Daughter Syndrome". Regards, Waldo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well KrissyJo > You’ve done it again. Is there something pathological (or is it just > pathetic) about you that you can’t just talk ARTHRITIS on this NG? > I resent your attitude but I’m not leaving. I’ll forward any onteresting > ARTHRITIS articles to Susan. > Let’s talk ARTHRITIS! > Diane > I know I’m stirring the pot but I just don’t understand your attitude & > complete lack of caring for minors. You nastily stated that if our > children > saw some offensive jokes that they better run to let their Mummy know > that > there is a nasty lady saying bad things. Why don’t you show some respect > for those that truly want to limit what comes into their homes. You have > several outlets for offensive jokes while there aren’t any other give & > take > outlets for arthritics. I actually have a very gross mind but don’t let > it > out where kids can get a hold of anything of the offensive nature! I’ve > been up most of the night after your last post trying to figure out why > you > say what you did, I was very, very upset!!!!! You have slapped me in the > face 1 too many times with your snotty & I don’t give a damn about your > kids > attitude so READ MY LIPS – I don’t need any more stress in my life so I.m > out of here!!! The door won’t slam into my back but into your face!! > Goodbye everyone – I hope my posts have been supportive to those I’ve > tried > to help & I’ll miss those who’ve also tried to help the others. > All I wanted was to "Talk Arthritis" like the NG title suggests!!!!!. > Regretfully Susan
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