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Son of Orenda ( was Re: I spank (Christopher)

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I wrote, and no anti-spankers must have gotten it, because I got no reply, so I’m reposting.  Sorry for the duplication, if there is any.  > > >  > > >         If you know the consequence is going to be a sore bottom, then it seems  > > > a real consequence to me.  > >  > > Yes, sadly enough, you do seem to think that hurting children is some  > > sort of a real consequence.  But then again, your proclivity for sore  > > bottoms as an adult, and your delight in sore bottom fantasy stories  > > involving both children and adults, does make one question your  > > understanding of pain, hitting, hurting, sore bottoms, and  > > consequencies when real life children are involved.          I quit writing here when I realized that my writing in defense of my  Mom just caused her more heartache from you people.          But this latest example from a woman who seems so concerned with my  welfare and my mom’s spanking me with a belt on two occasions one  minute, who then repeatedly attacks me for calling someone what I  thought was a relatively mild name  ( grin, I really could do much  better, but don’t neccesarily want my mom knowing I know words like  that.) Or embelishes a story about when I was a younger kid who made  some bad decisions concerning a BB gun.          The belt thing.  My mom has never hurt me.  She’s never called me  names…. only yelled at me when I was a block away.  She’s always been  the most supporting mom any of my friends ever had.  And the coolest.  The most hurt I ever felt had nothing to do with anything she could  control. She was hospitalized for over two months and then away from  home another three due to a drunk driver knocking her off a motorcycle,  and crushing her leg.  THAT hurt me.  No one will ever know what it was  like for me and Marilyn to not have our mom around.  I probably never  really appreciated exactly how much I needed her, or loved her until  then.  I’m ashamed now that I don’t do things to let her know now  exactly how great she is and how wonderful she has made my life.  Funny  how we take things for granted.  For reminding me of that, I thank this  Lavonne.          Now Lavonne talks about my mom’s fantasy life.   And now she talks  about fantasies involving kids and adults.  This is still twisting the  truth around.  Makes it sound like my mom likes spanking us kids to get  off on it. ( children and adults )  And this woman calls me insulting.  She’s insulted my mother forever on this group.  I guess it comes and  goes when she can’t think of anything else to say.          I’ve asked my mom a lot of questions about this.  Hey, I can talk to my  mom about anything.  And get straight answers.  Or just an ear if I need  someone to listen.  From what I understand my mother wanting to be  spanked, not SPANKING anyone, doesn’t have much to do with pain, or sore  bottoms.  It’s more of giving control to someone you can trust.          Maybe it does tie into parenting.  Aren’t you supposed to be able to  trust your parents to make the right choices for you ?  Even at 13, I  was truly horrified when I learned about the car accident that killed  that woman, who was about the age I am now and her infant child.  Did  that ever get the point across that my mom was right about these guys!  But I might have been indirectly responsible for those deaths, if not  dead myself, if she hadn’t made me listen the only way she felt was open  to her at the time.          I was just a young kid.  I was really flattered that these "cool" older  guys were willing to have me along.  They just wanted an awe struck kid  around to look up to them, I’m sure.  Now, I look at those types as  punks.  Guess we learn as we grow older.  Right now I’m trying to teach  you all something, if you aren’t too old to learn.  I wasn’t trying to  give my mom grief being with these guys.  I was just having a cool time  and really didn’t see how anyone was going to get hurt as long as I  didn’t partake of any of the bad stuff. Mostly beer, which I did try but  hated the taste of then and I did smoke cigarettes, but not the pot or  coke they had.  Nor did I mess with the handguns, so , see, the bbgun  spanking did work.  I don’t think there are many men who don’t like the  idea of racing in a car.  Hey, it was safe.  It was late at night, and  no one was on the streets. At least so I thought.  I figured that if I  wasn’t too tired to go to school, because she would have made me go  anyway, and I didn’t do the "bad" stuff, she was just being overly  protective and worrying too much, and this wasn’t going to hurt anyone.  I tried explaining this to her, and she refused to give in, even though  she did listen.  Too bad I didn’t.           I would like to remind the person who wrote the above that yes, my mom  does know a lot about hitting and pain.  First hand, from about the time  she should have been learning to ride a bike.   I’ve seen her agonize  over whether she’s a good mom or not, even while people are telling her  what a wonderful mother and person she is.  All because her own mother  made her feel worthless and unwanted as a kid, besides beating her to a  bloody pulp. .  My mom is a great artist, but she never believes her  work is any good, much less good enough.  She credits us with being such  wonderful kids, but what we are, we learned from her. To clarify, I have  never heard her call anyone a needle-dicked geek… that was my own  invention.          She has hurt my sister more combing her hair than spanking her.  And  she’s spent hours clearing out tangles so not to hurt her, my sister has  really long fine hair.  And I personally don’t think she’s ever spanked  her more than 3 or 4 times.  And by spank, I mean 1 or 2 swats.  My  sister certainly doesn’t feel she’s an abused child.  She doesn’t even  remember being spanked.  I only remember because now that I’m older I  realize how trying I must have been as a kid.  I only hope I have half  her patience and faith with my kids, not to mention her wisdom.  And I  pray my kids are like Marilyn and not me. (grin)          We live in Florida because my mom was so broken up as a kid that she  can’t take any colder climate than this, and she Hates Florida.  And now  that it rains and has gotten colder, she’s in pain all the time.  She has a higher pain tolerance than anyone I know.  She also has more  compassion for other people’s pain than you can ever imagine. Something  you keep claiming you feel for kids, but I find it hard to believe since  you have no compassion for any other human beings.  My mom was a kid  once, a really abused kid, and yet you have no compassion for that  either.  Instead, her pain becomes a sob-story, and her parents  alcoholics, and you paint me to be "machine gun Kelly" and her sexual  desires which are hers alone and not set upon us kids, are dredged up in  a very feeble and sick attempt to paint her to be something she’s  definately not.          The point is, you have no idea of the person you are attacking in such  a cruel and vindictive and totally uncalled for manner.  And I am ever  so grateful that she’s my mother, and not someone like you.  Christopher  proud and lucky to be the Son of Orenda

Response:

: I wrote, and no anti-spankers must have gotten it, because I got no : reply, so I’m reposting.  Sorry for the duplication, if there is any.  Hey Christopher, your Mom is lucky to have a some like you.  As a parent who constantly worries about the kind of job shes doing I thank you for your post.   Parenting is the hardest thing I’ve ever done and sometimes the stuff that gets said here getts me down.  Maybe someday my kids will be able to write about me, the way you write about your mom —                              Heather          Our Fantasies are the steping stones to our realities.

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> I wrote, and no anti-spankers must have gotten it, because I got no > reply, so I’m reposting.  Sorry for the duplication, if there is any. > <snip>

Christopher, Your post was very good, I didn’t see it before so it may not have posted. But I doubt that you will get much of a anti-spank response as you were as polite and rational as your first post which was ignored both the first time and the repost I posted here in the last few days. Orenda must have done something right along the way  ;-D Tammy — "Resistance is futile….."                 Locutus of Borg                         "Best of Both Worlds I & II"

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