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> I stand corrected, and offer expensive chocolate as my show of respect. > Doug  :-)

Where are you when I need you to misquote me?  I could use some chocolate. AJPDLA, off to the freezer for some Reese’s Peanut Butter cups.  Great frozen.

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Mona, I have three boys who are now ages 7, 5 and 4.  Let me go to tell you how totally different they were and still are, as with my approach to parenting each of them.  With my first son I personally didnt know what the heck I was doing most of the time, but if it made him and me happy then I knew it was right.  He was 9lbs 14 oz. at birth and weighed under 20lbs at one year.  He has always been a very skinny child and I do get a lot of comments about not feeding him enough.  Well he has always ate when he was hungry so I never forced him.  I only provided him with very good nutritional choices to help him from becoming nutrient deficient.  He also was on cow’s milk at age 1 and still used his bottle on a regular basis.  A few months after his first birthday I started to wean him down to a 4oz bottle and only at nap and bedtime.  Or if he was having a difficult day I would let him have it just in the house.  (He also still used a pacifier, and was already in a toddler bed).  With him thought I really believe I let him have the bottle (and pacifier) becuase I didnt want to deal with the whining and crying..  He gave up the pacifier when he was about 18 months and the bottle at about 26 months (two months after baby brother came along).  My second child was 11lbs 1oz at birth and was still under 20lbs at a year.  He was a very healthy eater and was always eating something.  He also had his bottle till he was about 18 months.  My third son was 8lbs 1oz at birth and yet still under 20lbs at a year.  He was never really that into the bottle and gave it up for a cup at around 8 months.  He loved food and thought those non-spill sippy cups were really cool, and wanted to be like his big brothers.  So needless to say we didnt worry to much with him.  I guess what I’m getting at is that you can see how different all three of my boys were at birth as far as weight and yet none of them were over 20lbs at a year old.  This was not due to lack of nutrition it was due to their activity level, genetics, and appetite.  Also I believe they give up the bottle when they and you are ready for it.  Please don’t take the advice of others so much as listen to what your child is telling you by his actions and words. Good luck Deanne

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello to all, > Ok, Please give me some tips on taking the bottle away.  My DD is one and I > think it is time.  However, she doesn’t eat well, she weighs 17lbs so I really > don’t know what to do.  She is on cow’s milk now and since she doesn’t eat > well, she is getting most of her nutrition from milk.  I just read a post that > someone suggested to take the bottle away because that would get them to eat > more.  I have already taken it away from her during the day but that doesn’t > seem to get her to eat more.  She only gets it at nap time and bed time. Now, > how do I take it away from her?  I have always given her the bottle and when > she falls asleep, I put her in her crib. Do I lay down with her or just put her > in her bed to cry it out or what? Help needed!  That is another story.  I think > I also need to "sleep train" her as they say.  She still wakes up in the middle > of the night wanting a bottle and lately, she wants me to pat her butt to help > her go to sleep.  She can’t go to sleep by herself unless she is taking the > bottle or I pat her on the butt.  Please, can someone shed some light on this > for me and thanks for letting me ramble! > TIA soooooo much > Mona  :-)

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To a certain age (I think, the first 2 years), it is, yes.  But not as a general "rule of thumb." AJPDLA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > And, of course, don’t use honey to sweeten squash – it’s bad for kids.

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> Actually, if you will look back at the start message, she said her > daughter was having 2-3 bottles a day and not eating "much" regular > food.

I stand corrected, and offer expensive chocolate as my show of respect. Doug  :-)

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Ok, 36 lbs for a 2 1/2 year old isn’t huge, but 30 lbs for a 1 year old is LARGE. Like I said, my almost 5 y.o. is only 35 lbs!  So your son is big compared to my daughter. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Um, I’m sorry, 30 lbs. is not HUGE. My DS is 36 lbs, and everyone says that he’s > "too skinny" Depends on the height I guess. > Oh, BTW, he barely weighed 6 lbs at birth and was very, very sick. (we almost lost > him the first week of his life). So birthweight has nothing to do with it either. > I do not agree with this at ALL!!  For starters, 17 lbs is not "extremely > underweight".  The average for a 1-year-old is 20 lbs.  To me, 30 lbs. is HUGE. > Also, you need to take into consideration how much she weighed at birth… if > she was a small baby at birth, she’s going to be a bit smaller than if she was > huge at birth.  My two girls are the extremes (for me anyway).  My first dd was > 6 lbs at birth.  She’s now almost 5yo and is only 35 lbs.  She was only 19 lbs > at a year.  My second dd is 11 months old and is over 22 lbs now.  She was over > 8 lbs at birth though.  Also, I wouldn’t automatically assume undernourishment > either.  Kids eat what they need.  Any pediatrician will tell you that.  At a > year, they slow down on their eating anyway, so they don’t turn into a "sumo > wrestler"!  Nature’s diet, it’s called.  As with anything, if you’re concerned > at all, ask your pediatrician.  They will set your mind at ease. > > I really, really, really think you need to go to your pediatrician.  17lbs > > at a year old sounds extremely underweight to me.  Your doctor can help set > > up a nutrition plan for her and a weight gain plan……. > > Honestly, I am not seeing the bottle as the problem……I am seeing, > > however, a child that sounds severly undernourished. > > My DD is 4 months and is 18 pds and DS at 1 year old weighed 30 pds. > > Sarah > > Mom to Kalen (8) and Victoria (4 months) > > > Hello to all, > > > Ok, Please give me some tips on taking the bottle away.  My DD is one and > > I > > > think it is time.  However, she doesn’t eat well, she weighs 17lbs so I > > really > > > don’t know what to do.  She is on cow’s milk now and since she doesn’t eat > > > well, she is getting most of her nutrition from milk.  I just read a post > > that > > > someone suggested to take the bottle away because that would get them to > > eat > > > more.  I have already taken it away from her during the day but that > > doesn’t > > > seem to get her to eat more.  She only gets it at nap time and bed time. > > Now, > > > how do I take it away from her?  I have always given her the bottle and > > when > > > she falls asleep, I put her in her crib. Do I lay down with her or just > > put her > > > in her bed to cry it out or what? Help needed!  That is another story.  I > > think > > > I also need to "sleep train" her as they say.  She still wakes up in the > > middle > > > of the night wanting a bottle and lately, she wants me to pat her butt to > > help > > > her go to sleep.  She can’t go to sleep by herself unless she is taking > > the > > > bottle or I pat her on the butt.  Please, can someone shed some light on > > this > > > for me and thanks for letting me ramble! > > > TIA soooooo much > > > Mona  :-)

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>>Georgia: >Isn’t the issue here one of nutrition, rather than weight?  Ideally, a baby >should be getting either mother’s milk, or formula.  It’s a documented fact >that cow’s milk does NOT contain all the nutrients humans need.  The lady said >her baby is currently eating nothing but cow’s milk.

I was responding to the person who assumed that a 30 lb 1 year old was a problem and also to the idea that being 17 lbs was magically bad.  Many parents freak unnecessarily about how big their babies are when they are either ‘too large’ or ‘too small’.  Certainly, no child should be "just" eating cows milk.  But the average 1 year old doesn’t eat much at all  and that can really throw a parent off.  A doctor will look at the growth over time and can alert a parent as to when to worry much better than a bunch of people in a newsgroup Actually, if you will look back at the start message, she said her daughter was having 2-3 bottles a day and not eating "much" regular food.  Since there is a natural growth decline, not much may be all the child needs.  In addition, one of her big concerns is wanting a bottle at night.  So to throw out a suggestion to the orginal message, try offering only water for that night time feeding.  If that puts the child back to sleep, then it probably is really the soothing sensation and you can offer only water in the bottle at nap times and move on to cups for meals.  I know my son was off bottles at 12 months but then ended up back on them (water only) when we made a move at 15 months.  He finally went off them again at about 19 months.  It was totally a soothing issue for him. Georgia

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> Actually, depending on the child, either could be just fine or a reason for > big concern.  My son weighed almost 30 lbs at 1 year and is a perfectly > healthy 11.5 year old weighing about 65 lbs now.  My daughter weighed > about 18 lbs at 1 year and weighs about 45 lbs at 7.5 years.  My son > was bigger at birth (9 lb 6 oz versus 8 lb 1 oz).  In neither case was > there any reason to be "concerned". > Georgia

Georgia: Isn’t the issue here one of nutrition, rather than weight?  Ideally, a baby should be getting either mother’s milk, or formula.  It’s a documented fact that cow’s milk does NOT contain all the nutrients humans need.  The lady said her baby is currently eating nothing but cow’s milk. Doug

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>That’s cool.  But at 1 yr., he was a pudge.  :)  Peace.

Not if he was TALL, like mine was.  Mine had lost that baby round face by 8 months and looked like a 2 year old toddler. He was in the 99% for both weight and height but if you looked at the average 2 year old, he was in the 70% for weight and the 90% for height.  It all depends on how the child is put together. Georgia

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> she is getting most of her nutrition from milk.

Out of the 8 zillion nutrients people need to grow in a healthy way, cow’s milk provides very few.  She sounds like she’s undernourished and you should see your doctor about it. One suggestion, if the dr suggests trying baby food:  When my son was ready for actual food, my wife found this great little crank-powered food mill (grinder/strainer).  It was about as big as the go-cups people use for coffee in the car, all plastic, except for the grinding surface, which was metal.  We bought this after tasting various types of "main course" baby foods, most of which tasted like crap.  Our doctor said there was no reason he couldn’t eat a lot of what we did, with exceptions made intelligently (no ground-up tacos!).   To make a long story short, we’re pretty good cooks, and he ate almost ANYTHING we tried, to the point of wrestling the spoon from our hands.  Needless to say, that the LAST time we saw him eat so much variety.  That ended when somebody gave him the idea that he could have an opinion about our menus. Find a copy of James Peterson’s "Vegetables" – great book!  I wish I’d had it when my son was little, because it’s got a good section on pureed vegetables, all of which would be great for babies if you back off a bit on some of the spices. And, of course, don’t use honey to sweeten squash – it’s bad for kids.  You’ll be amazed how many vegetables kids will eat, if they’re cooked right (which takes no more effort than cooking them wrong). Two other benefits of preparing your own baby food:  You’ll save money, and it’ll make you look more closely at the things YOU eat, since you’ll also be preparing them for your baby (in case you’re like my neighbor, who gets her kids to eat vegetables by putting Cheez Whiz in them).  And, grinding up the food only adds 5 minutes to prep time. I agree with the others who’ve said that there’s still a comfort factor at that age, and that you still have to work with that aspect.  But, it also sounds like solid foods are around the corner for your child, and I’m a stickler for not feeding kids things we wouldn’t eat ourselves. Have I mentioned that my son and his friends eat probably half of what grows in my vegetable garden before I even know it’s ready to pick?  Wait….I’d better stop! Doug

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You are right of course……I have a very large family who have large babies…… I’m the shrimp in the gene pool at 6′ tall. I know that every kid is different…..BUT I have personally never ever come across a one year old that tiny.  AND I stand by my statement that the PED. should be consulted – we are the experts of our own experiences, but not everyone elses. Another thing that struck me while reading this thread is how cautious people seem to be about over feeding their babies which is hard to understand considering how many obese children are come school age. I wonder why that is?  You would think it would be the other way around.  Let them feed themselves silly as babies and then make sure they eat a balanced diet (that doesn’t come from a box or bag) in their older years.  I knew based on the genetics of my family that my son NEEDED as much food as he would take.  While 30pds might sound ‘chubby’ at a year old, it was done on purpose. The reason being is that every male in his family have a very very hard time maintaining any fat as they grew up and I really didn’t want my son walking around with chicken legs.  Anywho, as a result, he ate his way through until 3 years of age and had the bulk he needed.  Now at 8, he is so tall and very slender, but the bulk from his small time has given him excellent muscle tone.

> I really, really, really think you need to go to your pediatrician. 17lbs > at a year old sounds extremely underweight to me.  Your doctor can help set > up a nutrition plan for her and a weight gain plan……. > Honestly, I am not seeing the bottle as the problem……I am seeing, > however, a child that sounds severly undernourished. > My DD is 4 months and is 18 pds and DS at 1 year old weighed 30 pds. > hmm I would be more concerned about a 30 pound one year old than a 17

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That’s cool.  But at 1 yr., he was a pudge.  :)  Peace. AJPDLA

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> He was 30lbs at 1 year and he is now 5′2" at 8 years old……gonna be > around 6′8" at full height….not an ounce of fat on his body…. > sarah

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He was 30lbs at 1 year and he is now 5′2" at 8 years old……gonna be around 6′8" at full height….not an ounce of fat on his body…. sarah

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> She said her child was 30lbs. at age 1?  That child’s a pudge, .  Our son > is two and is about 26 pounds and he is just fine.  He was born at 8lbs., 7 > oz., and was pretty heavy through most of his first year, a big chunk. Now > he’s sliming down and gaining his own "shape," if you will.  Kids grow in > spurts.  They grow out, then up or up, then out.  That’s what makes us > individuals.  :) > AJP > > I really, really, really think you need to go to your > > pediatrician.  17lbs > > at a year old sounds extremely underweight to me.  Your doctor can > > help set > > up a nutrition plan for her and a weight gain plan……. > > Honestly, I am not seeing the bottle as the problem……I am > > seeing, > > however, a child that sounds severly undernourished. > > My DD is 4 months and is 18 pds and DS at 1 year old weighed 30 > > pds. > > Sarah > > Mom to Kalen (8) and Victoria (4 months)

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Um, I’m sorry, 30 lbs. is not HUGE. My DS is 36 lbs, and everyone says that he’s "too skinny" Depends on the height I guess. Oh, BTW, he barely weighed 6 lbs at birth and was very, very sick. (we almost lost him the first week of his life). So birthweight has nothing to do with it either. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I do not agree with this at ALL!!  For starters, 17 lbs is not "extremely > underweight".  The average for a 1-year-old is 20 lbs.  To me, 30 lbs. is HUGE. > Also, you need to take into consideration how much she weighed at birth… if > she was a small baby at birth, she’s going to be a bit smaller than if she was > huge at birth.  My two girls are the extremes (for me anyway).  My first dd was > 6 lbs at birth.  She’s now almost 5yo and is only 35 lbs.  She was only 19 lbs > at a year.  My second dd is 11 months old and is over 22 lbs now.  She was over > 8 lbs at birth though.  Also, I wouldn’t automatically assume undernourishment > either.  Kids eat what they need.  Any pediatrician will tell you that.  At a > year, they slow down on their eating anyway, so they don’t turn into a "sumo > wrestler"!  Nature’s diet, it’s called.  As with anything, if you’re concerned > at all, ask your pediatrician.  They will set your mind at ease. > I really, really, really think you need to go to your pediatrician.  17lbs > at a year old sounds extremely underweight to me.  Your doctor can help set > up a nutrition plan for her and a weight gain plan……. > Honestly, I am not seeing the bottle as the problem……I am seeing, > however, a child that sounds severly undernourished. > My DD is 4 months and is 18 pds and DS at 1 year old weighed 30 pds. > Sarah > Mom to Kalen (8) and Victoria (4 months) > > Hello to all, > > Ok, Please give me some tips on taking the bottle away.  My DD is one and > I > > think it is time.  However, she doesn’t eat well, she weighs 17lbs so I > really > > don’t know what to do.  She is on cow’s milk now and since she doesn’t eat > > well, she is getting most of her nutrition from milk.  I just read a post > that > > someone suggested to take the bottle away because that would get them to > eat > > more.  I have already taken it away from her during the day but that > doesn’t > > seem to get her to eat more.  She only gets it at nap time and bed time. > Now, > > how do I take it away from her?  I have always given her the bottle and > when > > she falls asleep, I put her in her crib. Do I lay down with her or just > put her > > in her bed to cry it out or what? Help needed!  That is another story.  I > think > > I also need to "sleep train" her as they say.  She still wakes up in the > middle > > of the night wanting a bottle and lately, she wants me to pat her butt to > help > > her go to sleep.  She can’t go to sleep by herself unless she is taking > the > > bottle or I pat her on the butt.  Please, can someone shed some light on > this > > for me and thanks for letting me ramble! > > TIA soooooo much > > Mona  :-)

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I completly agree — I would keep her on the bottle now if that’s the only way she is getting some kind of nutrition. My DS is 2 1/2 and weighs 36 lbs. And my DD is 1 1/2 and weighs 38 lbs. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I really, really, really think you need to go to your pediatrician.  17lbs > at a year old sounds extremely underweight to me.  Your doctor can help set > up a nutrition plan for her and a weight gain plan……. > Honestly, I am not seeing the bottle as the problem……I am seeing, > however, a child that sounds severly undernourished. > My DD is 4 months and is 18 pds and DS at 1 year old weighed 30 pds. > Sarah > Mom to Kalen (8) and Victoria (4 months) > Hello to all, > Ok, Please give me some tips on taking the bottle away.  My DD is one and > I > think it is time.  However, she doesn’t eat well, she weighs 17lbs so I > really > don’t know what to do.  She is on cow’s milk now and since she doesn’t eat > well, she is getting most of her nutrition from milk.  I just read a post > that > someone suggested to take the bottle away because that would get them to > eat > more.  I have already taken it away from her during the day but that > doesn’t > seem to get her to eat more.  She only gets it at nap time and bed time. > Now, > how do I take it away from her?  I have always given her the bottle and > when > she falls asleep, I put her in her crib. Do I lay down with her or just > put her > in her bed to cry it out or what? Help needed!  That is another story.  I > think > I also need to "sleep train" her as they say.  She still wakes up in the > middle > of the night wanting a bottle and lately, she wants me to pat her butt to > help > her go to sleep.  She can’t go to sleep by herself unless she is taking > the > bottle or I pat her on the butt.  Please, can someone shed some light on > this > for me and thanks for letting me ramble! > TIA soooooo much > Mona  :-)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I really, really, really think you need to go to your pediatrician. 17lbs > at a year old sounds extremely underweight to me.  Your doctor can help set > up a nutrition plan for her and a weight gain plan……. > Honestly, I am not seeing the bottle as the problem……I am seeing, > however, a child that sounds severly undernourished. > My DD is 4 months and is 18 pds and DS at 1 year old weighed 30 pds. >hmm I would be more concerned about a 30 pound one year old than a 17

pounder. Actually, depending on the child, either could be just fine or a reason for big concern.  My son weighed almost 30 lbs at 1 year and is a perfectly healthy 11.5 year old weighing about 65 lbs now.  My daughter weighed about 18 lbs at 1 year and weighs about 45 lbs at 7.5 years.  My son was bigger at birth (9 lb 6 oz versus 8 lb 1 oz).  In neither case was there any reason to be "concerned". Georgia

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>She said her child was 30lbs. at age 1?  That child’s a >pudge, .  Our son is two and is about 26 pounds and he is >just fine.  He was born at 8lbs., 7 oz., and was pretty heavy >through most of his first year, a big chunk. Now he’s sliming >down and gaining his own "shape," if you will.  Kids grow in >spurts.  They grow out, then up or up, then out.  That’s what >makes us individuals.  :)

The thing to look at is the 1yo weight relative to the birthweight. A baby should triple his/her birthweight by age one. That means a 6 lber. should be about 18 lbs. by age one, an 8 lber. about 24 lbs., while a 10 lber. would end up around 30 lbs. These are all perfectly acceptable weights for newborns *and* for one yo’s, but they are obviously very different in size at both ends of the equation. — Be well, Barbara (Julian [7/22/97] and Aurora’s [7/19/99] mom) * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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> I really, really, really think you need to go to your pediatrician.  17lbs > at a year old sounds extremely underweight to me.  Your doctor can help set > up a nutrition plan for her and a weight gain plan……. > Honestly, I am not seeing the bottle as the problem……I am seeing, > however, a child that sounds severly undernourished. > My DD is 4 months and is 18 pds and DS at 1 year old weighed 30 pds.

hmm I would be more concerned about a 30 pound one year old than a 17 pounder.

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I do not agree with this at ALL!!  For starters, 17 lbs is not "extremely underweight".  The average for a 1-year-old is 20 lbs.  To me, 30 lbs. is HUGE. Also, you need to take into consideration how much she weighed at birth… if she was a small baby at birth, she’s going to be a bit smaller than if she was huge at birth.  My two girls are the extremes (for me anyway).  My first dd was 6 lbs at birth.  She’s now almost 5yo and is only 35 lbs.  She was only 19 lbs at a year.  My second dd is 11 months old and is over 22 lbs now.  She was over 8 lbs at birth though.  Also, I wouldn’t automatically assume undernourishment either.  Kids eat what they need.  Any pediatrician will tell you that.  At a year, they slow down on their eating anyway, so they don’t turn into a "sumo wrestler"!  Nature’s diet, it’s called.  As with anything, if you’re concerned at all, ask your pediatrician.  They will set your mind at ease. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I really, really, really think you need to go to your pediatrician.  17lbs > at a year old sounds extremely underweight to me.  Your doctor can help set > up a nutrition plan for her and a weight gain plan……. > Honestly, I am not seeing the bottle as the problem……I am seeing, > however, a child that sounds severly undernourished. > My DD is 4 months and is 18 pds and DS at 1 year old weighed 30 pds. > Sarah > Mom to Kalen (8) and Victoria (4 months) > Hello to all, > Ok, Please give me some tips on taking the bottle away.  My DD is one and > I > think it is time.  However, she doesn’t eat well, she weighs 17lbs so I > really > don’t know what to do.  She is on cow’s milk now and since she doesn’t eat > well, she is getting most of her nutrition from milk.  I just read a post > that > someone suggested to take the bottle away because that would get them to > eat > more.  I have already taken it away from her during the day but that > doesn’t > seem to get her to eat more.  She only gets it at nap time and bed time. > Now, > how do I take it away from her?  I have always given her the bottle and > when > she falls asleep, I put her in her crib. Do I lay down with her or just > put her > in her bed to cry it out or what? Help needed!  That is another story.  I > think > I also need to "sleep train" her as they say.  She still wakes up in the > middle > of the night wanting a bottle and lately, she wants me to pat her butt to > help > her go to sleep.  She can’t go to sleep by herself unless she is taking > the > bottle or I pat her on the butt.  Please, can someone shed some light on > this > for me and thanks for letting me ramble! > TIA soooooo much > Mona  :-)

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She said her child was 30lbs. at age 1?  That child’s a pudge, .  Our son is two and is about 26 pounds and he is just fine.  He was born at 8lbs., 7 oz., and was pretty heavy through most of his first year, a big chunk.  Now he’s sliming down and gaining his own "shape," if you will.  Kids grow in spurts.  They grow out, then up or up, then out.  That’s what makes us individuals.  :) AJP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I really, really, really think you need to go to your > pediatrician.  17lbs > at a year old sounds extremely underweight to me.  Your doctor can > help set > up a nutrition plan for her and a weight gain plan……. > Honestly, I am not seeing the bottle as the problem……I am > seeing, > however, a child that sounds severly undernourished. > My DD is 4 months and is 18 pds and DS at 1 year old weighed 30 > pds. > Sarah > Mom to Kalen (8) and Victoria (4 months)

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My five year old daughter stayed on the bottle til she was two. I have a seventeen month old now and I will keep her on it til she’s two. After the first year, I only gave them the bottle before naptime and bedtime. At two years of age, I brought my daughter to the store and let her pick out her own sippy cup and cookies and told her she could have a cookie with her own special cup before bedtime (the last five months of the first year, she only had the bottle at bedtime). It worked like a charm and she was very excited about having her own sippy cup she picked out. (I am hoping this works for my other daughter, too.) This is how I got my daughter off the bottle. As for not eating enough, does your daughter drink alot of juice during the day? I have known several women who had the same issue about the bottle, and they also gave their child juice during the day, which hampered their appetite. I do know of a child who was very finicky and didn’t eat alot. Her mother continued with milk in a bottle until she seemed to outgrow it at the age of three. But this child absolutely refused to eat anything else.  I know this won’t last forever for you. I wonder if you were to give her a half bottle of milk as opposed to a full bottle, she might be interested in having something to eat since her tummy won’t be full? Good luck. Susan

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> I really, really, really think you need to go to your > pediatrician.  17lbs > at a year old sounds extremely underweight to me.  Your doctor can > help set > up a nutrition plan for her and a weight gain plan……. > Honestly, I am not seeing the bottle as the problem……I am > seeing, > however, a child that sounds severly undernourished. > My DD is 4 months and is 18 pds and DS at 1 year old weighed 30 > pds. > Sarah > Mom to Kalen (8) and Victoria (4 months)

The child dosen’t sound undernourished to me.  Your kid could have been huge at birth therefore her hugeness NOW!!!  My child weighs 14lbs. 15oz. at 7 months old.  He weighed 6 lbs. 4 oz. at birth.  Her child could have also been small at birth.  If the child does eat don’t worry so much.  A child will eat when hungery.  Also a child that young eats smaller proportions, add one table spoon of food for every year of the childs age & this is the size proportion they should eat.  I got this from " The Baby Book " wrote by Dr. Sears. Comparing a childs weight at any age makes no sense because no two kids are alike!!!  They are not all robots that walk at the same time, sleep threw the night at the same time, talk at the same time, or all talk at the same time! Jennifer mommy of Matthew * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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I actually don’t think that it is necessary to wean her off the bottle, especially as this is just a rest time comfort thing.  I BF both mine, one weaned at about 10 mnths, but the other not until 2yrs.  That was partially because she had a dairy allergy and did not like the taste of soya milks, but also it was a comfort and  was only at bed time.  I really don’t think that giving up that bed time comfort is going to make her eat more. JMO Annemarie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello to all, > Ok, Please give me some tips on taking the bottle away.  My DD is one and I > think it is time.  However, she doesn’t eat well, she weighs 17lbs so I really > don’t know what to do.  She is on cow’s milk now and since she doesn’t eat > well, she is getting most of her nutrition from milk.  I just read a post that > someone suggested to take the bottle away because that would get them to eat > more.  I have already taken it away from her during the day but that doesn’t > seem to get her to eat more.  She only gets it at nap time and bed time. Now, > how do I take it away from her?  I have always given her the bottle and when > she falls asleep, I put her in her crib. Do I lay down with her or just put her > in her bed to cry it out or what? Help needed!  That is another story.  I think > I also need to "sleep train" her as they say.  She still wakes up in the middle > of the night wanting a bottle and lately, she wants me to pat her butt to help > her go to sleep.  She can’t go to sleep by herself unless she is taking the > bottle or I pat her on the butt.  Please, can someone shed some light on this > for me and thanks for letting me ramble! > TIA soooooo much > Mona  :-)

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I really, really, really think you need to go to your pediatrician.  17lbs at a year old sounds extremely underweight to me.  Your doctor can help set up a nutrition plan for her and a weight gain plan……. Honestly, I am not seeing the bottle as the problem……I am seeing, however, a child that sounds severly undernourished. My DD is 4 months and is 18 pds and DS at 1 year old weighed 30 pds. Sarah Mom to Kalen (8) and Victoria (4 months)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello to all, > Ok, Please give me some tips on taking the bottle away.  My DD is one and I > think it is time.  However, she doesn’t eat well, she weighs 17lbs so I really > don’t know what to do.  She is on cow’s milk now and since she doesn’t eat > well, she is getting most of her nutrition from milk.  I just read a post that > someone suggested to take the bottle away because that would get them to eat > more.  I have already taken it away from her during the day but that doesn’t > seem to get her to eat more.  She only gets it at nap time and bed time. Now, > how do I take it away from her?  I have always given her the bottle and when > she falls asleep, I put her in her crib. Do I lay down with her or just put her > in her bed to cry it out or what? Help needed!  That is another story.  I think > I also need to "sleep train" her as they say.  She still wakes up in the middle > of the night wanting a bottle and lately, she wants me to pat her butt to help > her go to sleep.  She can’t go to sleep by herself unless she is taking the > bottle or I pat her on the butt.  Please, can someone shed some light on this > for me and thanks for letting me ramble! > TIA soooooo much > Mona  :-)

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Hello to all, Ok, Please give me some tips on taking the bottle away.  My DD is one and I think it is time.  However, she doesn’t eat well, she weighs 17lbs so I really don’t know what to do.  She is on cow’s milk now and since she doesn’t eat well, she is getting most of her nutrition from milk.  I just read a post that someone suggested to take the bottle away because that would get them to eat more.  I have already taken it away from her during the day but that doesn’t seem to get her to eat more.  She only gets it at nap time and bed time.  Now, how do I take it away from her?  I have always given her the bottle and when she falls asleep, I put her in her crib. Do I lay down with her or just put her in her bed to cry it out or what? Help needed!  That is another story.  I think I also need to "sleep train" her as they say.  She still wakes up in the middle of the night wanting a bottle and lately, she wants me to pat her butt to help her go to sleep.  She can’t go to sleep by herself unless she is taking the bottle or I pat her on the butt.  Please, can someone shed some light on this for me and thanks for letting me ramble! TIA soooooo much Mona  :-)

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You want to take away the bottle as the primary source of nutrition or just graduate her to the next level, ie., a sipee cup.  I wouldn’t take her off milk. Our son, Noah, went for his follow-up  – Annmarie — visit today (he is fine, both ears are cleared and tested normal; diarrhea’s gone, too) and this was one of the questions I raised.  Because Noah likes to drink a lot of milk, and it’s whole milk, and I didn’t want to raise him on it. Anyway, the RN (nurse practitioner) said babies should have whole milk until they’re at least 2 years of age. So I wouldn’t wean her off the milk altogether, but graduating her to the next level, a sipee cup, and cutting back on the amount of milk in deference to more solid foods might work for you. Just some thoughts. AJPDLA

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello to all, > Ok, Please give me some tips on taking the bottle away.  My DD is one and I > think it is time.  However, she doesn’t eat well, she weighs 17lbs so I really > don’t know what to do.  She is on cow’s milk now and since she doesn’t eat > well, she is getting most of her nutrition from milk.  I just read a post that > someone suggested to take the bottle away because that would get them to eat > more.  I have already taken it away from her during the day but that doesn’t > seem to get her to eat more.  She only gets it at nap time and bed time. Now, > how do I take it away from her?  I have always given her the bottle and when > she falls asleep, I put her in her crib. Do I lay down with her or just put her > in her bed to cry it out or what? Help needed!  That is another story.  I think > I also need to "sleep train" her as they say.  She still wakes up in the middle > of the night wanting a bottle and lately, she wants me to pat her butt to help > her go to sleep.  She can’t go to sleep by herself unless she is taking the > bottle or I pat her on the butt.  Please, can someone shed some light on this > for me and thanks for letting me ramble! > TIA soooooo much > Mona  :-)

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