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I have an even different perspective on the TV question because we don’t have one. We have two daughters who will be 6 and 4 in May and have never had a TV. They are not perfect and we too hit the arsenic hour between 5:00 and 6:30 when my husband comes home and we have dinner. So what do I do? I ignore the mess and the screaming and let them find something else to do. Sometimes this means that the entire contents of their dress up box or closet make its way onto the floor, or that the living room is covered with bits of paper and markers. It also means that there can be a fair amount of screaming going on (by both me and the kids). I don’t know that this is the best solution and I am working on not screaming all the time. But I do think it is better than having a TV. My girls are quite good at amusing themselves or, better yet, helping with dinner and setting the table. It can be done. Lucinda, mother to Camille and Maia
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As a stay home mom with a husband who works 12 hours a day and travels two weeks a month (!), I can sympathize with both of you. I find myself at my wit’s end where I need my son to take some quiet time while I fix dinner, etc. and the TV seems the only way to do it. However, I also feel guilty if he watches too much TV. What I try to do is set a limit on TV in my head, from half an hour to an hour. If I break down and let him watch in the morning, that’s it! Usually what ends up happening is I "save" the TV time for when it’s really needed; i.e. the "unhappy hour" at around 6:00 or 7:00 when I’m trying to cook and Andrew is really wound up. Another thing I try to do is make sure I’m paying attention to the tube also so I can make comments and reinforce the things that may help him learn something, like letters, etc. Hope this helps,
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>My wife is a wonderful mother. I worry, however, about the amount of >television my 5 month old daughter is exposed to (and will continue to be >exposed to) as the television seems to be on more than I would like. Can >someone point me to studies or information that would either make me more >comfortable with the amount of TV she’s exposed to or provide information >to help me to convince my wife that the TV is bad for my daughter ? (I >worry even more when I can’t get my daughter’s attention because her eyes >are glued to the "flash" of the TV).
I have a little different perspective on this, as a stay at home mom. (I’m having to do a little guessing from your post, but my guess is that she stays home all day with the baby and you go out to a day job where adults say words you understand and you get to eat with both hands). I have a four year old and a one year old. My husband leaves for work before we get up and some nights he has to work until 7 or 8 pm. The kids hit their "crazy period" about 3:45 every day when I’m ready for him to come home. He’ll call and say he’ll be home "by six". (Now, where I come from, if you say you’ll meet someone at 6:00, you are getting out of your car in front of their house at 5:59 and walking up to ring the doorbell.) So, at 6:01, I’m looking out the window and thinking, okay, the fifth car I see will be him driving up. Then 6:30 comes and I think, "well, if he’s not going to be home soon, I’m going to let the kids watch a Winnie the Pooh tape while I find something for dinner". About that time, he walks in and, seeing the tv on, asks if it has been on all day and are the kids watching too much tv? My usual response to anything critical is "I guess when you’re the primary caregiver, that’ll be the first thing you change." I’m just saying that being the one at home is pretty stressful and your wife is probably very aware of trying to do what’s best for the baby. By the way: >(I worry even more when I can’t get my daughter’s attention because her >eyes are glued to the "flash" of the TV). sounds like my husband when
any sports are on.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Try watching a program as a family and during the commercial break imagine > that each family member is one of the characters in the program. How > would you feel about that? What value system does that character portray? > Do you accept or believe in that value system? > Some interesting and very valuable discussions can come out of this > approach. > .. > Dr. Lee Burnham > Rocky Mountain Center for Human Development > Web Site: http://www.ditell.com/~aspen > Free Web Page at: http://w3.servint.com/cognigen/f/fci.cgi?bu9542867.html
I absolutely agree with this and had a similar experience today! My two year old had just gotten up from his nap and my soap 
had only five minutes to go. At first I thought "what will it hurt if he sees five minutes?" but then I reconsidered: would I let people behave that way in my home? Would I want my son around people like that? Absolutely not! I flicked it off and felt better for it! Now if I can only convice myself to do this when he’s *not* awake!!!! -Jennifer
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As a Research Director at Children’s Television Workshop, makers of Sesame Street, I feel obligated to (a) endorse Nell Minnow’s basic comments; and (b) qualify them. The data on TV indicates that excessive viewing (more than, say, one hour a day) is harmful to children in a variety of ways. The data also show, however, that these effects are neutralized if parents "coview" with children, and process what they have seen by asking questions, etc. TV can be wonderful, when used in the right way! Erik (dad to Matt, 23 months)
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>I just read a wonderful book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of >Television" by Jerry Mander. You can guess by the title what his take on >the subject is. I read it because I never liked television (I grew up in a >home where it was always ON) and wanted to know just why I found it so >offensive. >My husband loves to watch, incidentally, so I’m trying to convince him of >the negative effects. He’s said he’ll read the above mentioned book soon. >Good luck keeping your daughter away from the surreal blue flicker. >Cheryl
Dear parents, I heard a great statement about how much TV you should allow and what kind of programs should be watched. Look at the characters, if you wouldn’t invite them into your home then don’t let them in through the TV. And only let them stay as long as a guest. Thanks, Terri ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
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Try watching a program as a family and during the commercial break imagine that each family member is one of the characters in the program. How would you feel about that? What value system does that character portray? Do you accept or believe in that value system? Some interesting and very valuable discussions can come out of this approach. . Dr. Lee Burnham Rocky Mountain Center for Human Development Web Site: http://www.ditell.com/~aspen Free Web Page at: http://w3.servint.com/cognigen/f/fci.cgi?bu9542867.html
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I just read a wonderful book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television" by Jerry Mander. You can guess by the title what his take on the subject is. I read it because I never liked television (I grew up in a home where it was always ON) and wanted to know just why I found it so offensive. My husband loves to watch, incidentally, so I’m trying to convince him of the negative effects. He’s said he’ll read the above mentioned book soon. Good luck keeping your daughter away from the surreal blue flicker. Cheryl
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>My wife is a wonderful mother. I worry, however, about the amount of >television my 5 month old daughter is exposed to (and will continue to be >exposed to) as the television seems to be on more than I would like. Can >someone point me to studies or information that would either make me more >comfortable with the amount of TV she’s exposed to or provide information >to help me to convince my wife that the TV is bad for my daughter ? (I >worry even more when I can’t get my daughter’s attention because her eyes >are glued to the "flash" of the TV).
Turn it off. There have been over 3000 studies of the impact of tv on children, and every one of them shows that most tv is damaging to kids. Not only that, but in studies of exceptional children, children who are unusually creative, children who are unusually aware of moral issues, there is a strong correlation with little or no tv in the home. Sure, "Sesame Street" and "Reading Rainbow" and "Mr. Rogers" are fine. And I let my kids watch movie classics a couple of times a month. But it is bad from a content perspective and bad from the perspective of teaching them attention skills to just have it going all the time. I turned it off when my kids were 3 and 5, seven years ago. The person it was hardest on was me, and I still watch when they are in bed. But they are polite, they read and listen to music, and they have none of that superficial but virulent precocity and they don’t nag me to get stuff advertised on tv.
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My wife is a wonderful mother. I worry, however, about the amount of television my 5 month old daughter is exposed to (and will continue to be exposed to) as the television seems to be on more than I would like. Can someone point me to studies or information that would either make me more comfortable with the amount of TV she’s exposed to or provide information to help me to convince my wife that the TV is bad for my daughter ? (I worry even more when I can’t get my daughter’s attention because her eyes are glued to the "flash" of the TV). And might I say that I’m so glad this resource exists. I’ve been reading previous appends – and as my experience grows I hope to be able to help … – Adrian
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We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next month. Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a conversion kit? — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Originally posted by Carolyn Lewis: > We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
I’ve heard that if a tely has PAL and SECAM you should be okay – Most new ones are. If not you may get only picture with no sound. I’m taking mine anyway and I’ll use it as a video-only TV if it doesn’t work… Watch out for DVD players though – they have to be "Chipped for multiregion" to get them working there. — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Hi Carolyn, I have a video recorder that came over recently from Germany. Power is no problem , but it wont quite "tune" all our channels. As for a conversion kit…as a technician told me about the video…a definite MAYBE. If it is not quite compatible with our standards, by the time you pay shipping and a conversion (if its possible), it may be cheaper and easier to get one here…..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > — > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems (with the sound, I believe). Daniel — Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My > understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems > (with the sound, I believe). > Daniel > — > Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia > See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
Aside from that, unless you have some monster of a telly or someone else is picking up the moving tab, it’s probably uneconomic to ship it a third of the way around the globe…..I’d say take the hit in selling it in the local bargain trader, pocket the few quid, and buy a new set when you hit Australia.
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ?
No, UK uses a different PAL version to NZ & OZ. You will get picture, but no sound.
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I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so who knows?? Hi there, Different countries have different Television standards. For example the USA uses NTSC which is basically the bandwidth at which the picture is scanned and NTSC runs at 525 lines per frame. The UK uses PAL which scans at 625 lines per frame and in theory offers a better quality picture. Different standards are not compatible and you will find that trying to use , say an NTSC video on a PAL TV will result in a black and white picture. Most newer TV’s these days offer switching for NTSC & PAL compatibility, I’m not 100% certain, but I would assume both of your TV’s fall into this category. But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of your televisions over there. G’day , Danny
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> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows??
[..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there.
The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ use VHF & UHF. A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows?? > [..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box which costs about $500 AU. Nick http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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I agree with the post that said sell your two tv’s and but new ones here – after all when you sell and pocket the few ppounds you will nearly triple that money in Aussie dollars plus the saving on the shipping and handlind, all this should go a fair way towards buring a new one — Gwen Kelly
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > > who knows?? > [..] > > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels. > To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing > to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard > PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box > which costs about $500 AU. > Nick > http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next month. Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a conversion kit? — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Originally posted by Carolyn Lewis: > We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
I’ve heard that if a tely has PAL and SECAM you should be okay – Most new ones are. If not you may get only picture with no sound. I’m taking mine anyway and I’ll use it as a video-only TV if it doesn’t work… Watch out for DVD players though – they have to be "Chipped for multiregion" to get them working there. — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Hi Carolyn, I have a video recorder that came over recently from Germany. Power is no problem , but it wont quite "tune" all our channels. As for a conversion kit…as a technician told me about the video…a definite MAYBE. If it is not quite compatible with our standards, by the time you pay shipping and a conversion (if its possible), it may be cheaper and easier to get one here…..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > — > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems (with the sound, I believe). Daniel — Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My > understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems > (with the sound, I believe). > Daniel > — > Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia > See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
Aside from that, unless you have some monster of a telly or someone else is picking up the moving tab, it’s probably uneconomic to ship it a third of the way around the globe…..I’d say take the hit in selling it in the local bargain trader, pocket the few quid, and buy a new set when you hit Australia.
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ?
No, UK uses a different PAL version to NZ & OZ. You will get picture, but no sound.
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I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so who knows?? Hi there, Different countries have different Television standards. For example the USA uses NTSC which is basically the bandwidth at which the picture is scanned and NTSC runs at 525 lines per frame. The UK uses PAL which scans at 625 lines per frame and in theory offers a better quality picture. Different standards are not compatible and you will find that trying to use , say an NTSC video on a PAL TV will result in a black and white picture. Most newer TV’s these days offer switching for NTSC & PAL compatibility, I’m not 100% certain, but I would assume both of your TV’s fall into this category. But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of your televisions over there. G’day , Danny
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> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows??
[..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there.
The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ use VHF & UHF. A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows?? > [..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box which costs about $500 AU. Nick http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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I agree with the post that said sell your two tv’s and but new ones here – after all when you sell and pocket the few ppounds you will nearly triple that money in Aussie dollars plus the saving on the shipping and handlind, all this should go a fair way towards buring a new one — Gwen Kelly
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > > who knows?? > [..] > > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels. > To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing > to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard > PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box > which costs about $500 AU. > Nick > http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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> Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle. > Gloria
You shouldn’t be putting undies on a parrot anyway 
— TA FAW "Hope is a feathered thing that perches in the soul" Emily Dickinson http://www2.netcom.com/~faw/Geobass/plot.html
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> YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal > Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle.
If I whistle really high pitched to my birds (not too loudly though) the girly bird is very annoyed by it. But Sapphire, the boydove gets all curious and tries to figure out what it’s all about. He stares intently at my mouth and tries to repeat it. Karsten
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YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s undies all in a bundle. Gloria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi there. > This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on > television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the > other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped > out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they > instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your > time.
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Hi there. This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your time.
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Sure they see what’s on the TV! My grey flipped out when a Stealth bomber was shown on TV. My cockatoo flipped out over the sinister-sounding music during a horror flick. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
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Birds have vision (in general) equal to or better than humans. And yes they do see in color. Yes they can see what’s on T.V.. I can’t answer the rest of your question as I am not sure. Gene >Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
Air Brusher Was here…
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We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next month. Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a conversion kit? — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Originally posted by Carolyn Lewis: > We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
I’ve heard that if a tely has PAL and SECAM you should be okay – Most new ones are. If not you may get only picture with no sound. I’m taking mine anyway and I’ll use it as a video-only TV if it doesn’t work… Watch out for DVD players though – they have to be "Chipped for multiregion" to get them working there. — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Hi Carolyn, I have a video recorder that came over recently from Germany. Power is no problem , but it wont quite "tune" all our channels. As for a conversion kit…as a technician told me about the video…a definite MAYBE. If it is not quite compatible with our standards, by the time you pay shipping and a conversion (if its possible), it may be cheaper and easier to get one here…..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > — > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems (with the sound, I believe). Daniel — Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My > understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems > (with the sound, I believe). > Daniel > — > Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia > See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
Aside from that, unless you have some monster of a telly or someone else is picking up the moving tab, it’s probably uneconomic to ship it a third of the way around the globe…..I’d say take the hit in selling it in the local bargain trader, pocket the few quid, and buy a new set when you hit Australia.
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ?
No, UK uses a different PAL version to NZ & OZ. You will get picture, but no sound.
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I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so who knows?? Hi there, Different countries have different Television standards. For example the USA uses NTSC which is basically the bandwidth at which the picture is scanned and NTSC runs at 525 lines per frame. The UK uses PAL which scans at 625 lines per frame and in theory offers a better quality picture. Different standards are not compatible and you will find that trying to use , say an NTSC video on a PAL TV will result in a black and white picture. Most newer TV’s these days offer switching for NTSC & PAL compatibility, I’m not 100% certain, but I would assume both of your TV’s fall into this category. But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of your televisions over there. G’day , Danny
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> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows??
[..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there.
The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ use VHF & UHF. A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows?? > [..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box which costs about $500 AU. Nick http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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I agree with the post that said sell your two tv’s and but new ones here – after all when you sell and pocket the few ppounds you will nearly triple that money in Aussie dollars plus the saving on the shipping and handlind, all this should go a fair way towards buring a new one — Gwen Kelly
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > > who knows?? > [..] > > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels. > To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing > to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard > PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box > which costs about $500 AU. > Nick > http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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> Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle. > Gloria
You shouldn’t be putting undies on a parrot anyway — TA FAW "Hope is a feathered thing that perches in the soul" Emily Dickinson http://www2.netcom.com/~faw/Geobass/plot.html
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> YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal > Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle.
If I whistle really high pitched to my birds (not too loudly though) the girly bird is very annoyed by it. But Sapphire, the boydove gets all curious and tries to figure out what it’s all about. He stares intently at my mouth and tries to repeat it. Karsten
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YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s undies all in a bundle. Gloria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi there. > This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on > television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the > other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped > out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they > instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your > time.
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Hi there. This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your time.
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Sure they see what’s on the TV! My grey flipped out when a Stealth bomber was shown on TV. My cockatoo flipped out over the sinister-sounding music during a horror flick. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
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Birds have vision (in general) equal to or better than humans. And yes they do see in color. Yes they can see what’s on T.V.. I can’t answer the rest of your question as I am not sure. Gene >Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
Air Brusher Was here…
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We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next month. Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a conversion kit? — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Originally posted by Carolyn Lewis: > We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
I’ve heard that if a tely has PAL and SECAM you should be okay – Most new ones are. If not you may get only picture with no sound. I’m taking mine anyway and I’ll use it as a video-only TV if it doesn’t work… Watch out for DVD players though – they have to be "Chipped for multiregion" to get them working there. — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Hi Carolyn, I have a video recorder that came over recently from Germany. Power is no problem , but it wont quite "tune" all our channels. As for a conversion kit…as a technician told me about the video…a definite MAYBE. If it is not quite compatible with our standards, by the time you pay shipping and a conversion (if its possible), it may be cheaper and easier to get one here…..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > — > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems (with the sound, I believe). Daniel — Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My > understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems > (with the sound, I believe). > Daniel > — > Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia > See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
Aside from that, unless you have some monster of a telly or someone else is picking up the moving tab, it’s probably uneconomic to ship it a third of the way around the globe…..I’d say take the hit in selling it in the local bargain trader, pocket the few quid, and buy a new set when you hit Australia.
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ?
No, UK uses a different PAL version to NZ & OZ. You will get picture, but no sound.
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I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so who knows?? Hi there, Different countries have different Television standards. For example the USA uses NTSC which is basically the bandwidth at which the picture is scanned and NTSC runs at 525 lines per frame. The UK uses PAL which scans at 625 lines per frame and in theory offers a better quality picture. Different standards are not compatible and you will find that trying to use , say an NTSC video on a PAL TV will result in a black and white picture. Most newer TV’s these days offer switching for NTSC & PAL compatibility, I’m not 100% certain, but I would assume both of your TV’s fall into this category. But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of your televisions over there. G’day , Danny
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> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows??
[..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there.
The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ use VHF & UHF. A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows?? > [..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box which costs about $500 AU. Nick http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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I agree with the post that said sell your two tv’s and but new ones here – after all when you sell and pocket the few ppounds you will nearly triple that money in Aussie dollars plus the saving on the shipping and handlind, all this should go a fair way towards buring a new one — Gwen Kelly
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > > who knows?? > [..] > > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels. > To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing > to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard > PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box > which costs about $500 AU. > Nick > http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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> Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle. > Gloria
You shouldn’t be putting undies on a parrot anyway — TA FAW "Hope is a feathered thing that perches in the soul" Emily Dickinson http://www2.netcom.com/~faw/Geobass/plot.html
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> YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal > Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle.
If I whistle really high pitched to my birds (not too loudly though) the girly bird is very annoyed by it. But Sapphire, the boydove gets all curious and tries to figure out what it’s all about. He stares intently at my mouth and tries to repeat it. Karsten
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YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s undies all in a bundle. Gloria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi there. > This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on > television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the > other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped > out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they > instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your > time.
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Hi there. This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your time.
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Sure they see what’s on the TV! My grey flipped out when a Stealth bomber was shown on TV. My cockatoo flipped out over the sinister-sounding music during a horror flick. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
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Birds have vision (in general) equal to or better than humans. And yes they do see in color. Yes they can see what’s on T.V.. I can’t answer the rest of your question as I am not sure. Gene >Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
Air Brusher Was here…
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We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next month. Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a conversion kit? — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Originally posted by Carolyn Lewis: > We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
I’ve heard that if a tely has PAL and SECAM you should be okay – Most new ones are. If not you may get only picture with no sound. I’m taking mine anyway and I’ll use it as a video-only TV if it doesn’t work… Watch out for DVD players though – they have to be "Chipped for multiregion" to get them working there. — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Hi Carolyn, I have a video recorder that came over recently from Germany. Power is no problem , but it wont quite "tune" all our channels. As for a conversion kit…as a technician told me about the video…a definite MAYBE. If it is not quite compatible with our standards, by the time you pay shipping and a conversion (if its possible), it may be cheaper and easier to get one here…..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > — > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems (with the sound, I believe). Daniel — Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My > understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems > (with the sound, I believe). > Daniel > — > Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia > See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
Aside from that, unless you have some monster of a telly or someone else is picking up the moving tab, it’s probably uneconomic to ship it a third of the way around the globe…..I’d say take the hit in selling it in the local bargain trader, pocket the few quid, and buy a new set when you hit Australia.
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ?
No, UK uses a different PAL version to NZ & OZ. You will get picture, but no sound.
Response:
I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so who knows?? Hi there, Different countries have different Television standards. For example the USA uses NTSC which is basically the bandwidth at which the picture is scanned and NTSC runs at 525 lines per frame. The UK uses PAL which scans at 625 lines per frame and in theory offers a better quality picture. Different standards are not compatible and you will find that trying to use , say an NTSC video on a PAL TV will result in a black and white picture. Most newer TV’s these days offer switching for NTSC & PAL compatibility, I’m not 100% certain, but I would assume both of your TV’s fall into this category. But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of your televisions over there. G’day , Danny
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> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows??
[..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there.
The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ use VHF & UHF. A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows?? > [..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box which costs about $500 AU. Nick http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
Response:
I agree with the post that said sell your two tv’s and but new ones here – after all when you sell and pocket the few ppounds you will nearly triple that money in Aussie dollars plus the saving on the shipping and handlind, all this should go a fair way towards buring a new one — Gwen Kelly
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > > who knows?? > [..] > > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels. > To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing > to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard > PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box > which costs about $500 AU. > Nick > http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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> Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle. > Gloria
You shouldn’t be putting undies on a parrot anyway — TA FAW "Hope is a feathered thing that perches in the soul" Emily Dickinson http://www2.netcom.com/~faw/Geobass/plot.html
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> YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal > Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle.
If I whistle really high pitched to my birds (not too loudly though) the girly bird is very annoyed by it. But Sapphire, the boydove gets all curious and tries to figure out what it’s all about. He stares intently at my mouth and tries to repeat it. Karsten
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YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s undies all in a bundle. Gloria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi there. > This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on > television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the > other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped > out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they > instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your > time.
Response:
Hi there. This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your time.
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Sure they see what’s on the TV! My grey flipped out when a Stealth bomber was shown on TV. My cockatoo flipped out over the sinister-sounding music during a horror flick. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
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Birds have vision (in general) equal to or better than humans. And yes they do see in color. Yes they can see what’s on T.V.. I can’t answer the rest of your question as I am not sure. Gene >Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
Air Brusher Was here…
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We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next month. Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a conversion kit? — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Originally posted by Carolyn Lewis: > We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
I’ve heard that if a tely has PAL and SECAM you should be okay – Most new ones are. If not you may get only picture with no sound. I’m taking mine anyway and I’ll use it as a video-only TV if it doesn’t work… Watch out for DVD players though – they have to be "Chipped for multiregion" to get them working there. — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Response:
Hi Carolyn, I have a video recorder that came over recently from Germany. Power is no problem , but it wont quite "tune" all our channels. As for a conversion kit…as a technician told me about the video…a definite MAYBE. If it is not quite compatible with our standards, by the time you pay shipping and a conversion (if its possible), it may be cheaper and easier to get one here…..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > — > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems (with the sound, I believe). Daniel — Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My > understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems > (with the sound, I believe). > Daniel > — > Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia > See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
Aside from that, unless you have some monster of a telly or someone else is picking up the moving tab, it’s probably uneconomic to ship it a third of the way around the globe…..I’d say take the hit in selling it in the local bargain trader, pocket the few quid, and buy a new set when you hit Australia.
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ?
No, UK uses a different PAL version to NZ & OZ. You will get picture, but no sound.
Response:
I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so who knows?? Hi there, Different countries have different Television standards. For example the USA uses NTSC which is basically the bandwidth at which the picture is scanned and NTSC runs at 525 lines per frame. The UK uses PAL which scans at 625 lines per frame and in theory offers a better quality picture. Different standards are not compatible and you will find that trying to use , say an NTSC video on a PAL TV will result in a black and white picture. Most newer TV’s these days offer switching for NTSC & PAL compatibility, I’m not 100% certain, but I would assume both of your TV’s fall into this category. But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of your televisions over there. G’day , Danny
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> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows??
[..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there.
The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ use VHF & UHF. A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows?? > [..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box which costs about $500 AU. Nick http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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I agree with the post that said sell your two tv’s and but new ones here – after all when you sell and pocket the few ppounds you will nearly triple that money in Aussie dollars plus the saving on the shipping and handlind, all this should go a fair way towards buring a new one — Gwen Kelly
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > > who knows?? > [..] > > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels. > To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing > to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard > PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box > which costs about $500 AU. > Nick > http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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> Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle. > Gloria
You shouldn’t be putting undies on a parrot anyway — TA FAW "Hope is a feathered thing that perches in the soul" Emily Dickinson http://www2.netcom.com/~faw/Geobass/plot.html
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> YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal > Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle.
If I whistle really high pitched to my birds (not too loudly though) the girly bird is very annoyed by it. But Sapphire, the boydove gets all curious and tries to figure out what it’s all about. He stares intently at my mouth and tries to repeat it. Karsten
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YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s undies all in a bundle. Gloria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi there. > This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on > television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the > other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped > out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they > instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your > time.
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Hi there. This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your time.
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Sure they see what’s on the TV! My grey flipped out when a Stealth bomber was shown on TV. My cockatoo flipped out over the sinister-sounding music during a horror flick. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
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Birds have vision (in general) equal to or better than humans. And yes they do see in color. Yes they can see what’s on T.V.. I can’t answer the rest of your question as I am not sure. Gene >Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
Air Brusher Was here…
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We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next month. Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a conversion kit? — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Originally posted by Carolyn Lewis: > We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
I’ve heard that if a tely has PAL and SECAM you should be okay – Most new ones are. If not you may get only picture with no sound. I’m taking mine anyway and I’ll use it as a video-only TV if it doesn’t work… Watch out for DVD players though – they have to be "Chipped for multiregion" to get them working there. — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Hi Carolyn, I have a video recorder that came over recently from Germany. Power is no problem , but it wont quite "tune" all our channels. As for a conversion kit…as a technician told me about the video…a definite MAYBE. If it is not quite compatible with our standards, by the time you pay shipping and a conversion (if its possible), it may be cheaper and easier to get one here…..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > — > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems (with the sound, I believe). Daniel — Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My > understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems > (with the sound, I believe). > Daniel > — > Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia > See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
Aside from that, unless you have some monster of a telly or someone else is picking up the moving tab, it’s probably uneconomic to ship it a third of the way around the globe…..I’d say take the hit in selling it in the local bargain trader, pocket the few quid, and buy a new set when you hit Australia.
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ?
No, UK uses a different PAL version to NZ & OZ. You will get picture, but no sound.
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I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so who knows?? Hi there, Different countries have different Television standards. For example the USA uses NTSC which is basically the bandwidth at which the picture is scanned and NTSC runs at 525 lines per frame. The UK uses PAL which scans at 625 lines per frame and in theory offers a better quality picture. Different standards are not compatible and you will find that trying to use , say an NTSC video on a PAL TV will result in a black and white picture. Most newer TV’s these days offer switching for NTSC & PAL compatibility, I’m not 100% certain, but I would assume both of your TV’s fall into this category. But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of your televisions over there. G’day , Danny
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> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows??
[..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there.
The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ use VHF & UHF. A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows?? > [..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box which costs about $500 AU. Nick http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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I agree with the post that said sell your two tv’s and but new ones here – after all when you sell and pocket the few ppounds you will nearly triple that money in Aussie dollars plus the saving on the shipping and handlind, all this should go a fair way towards buring a new one — Gwen Kelly
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > > who knows?? > [..] > > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels. > To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing > to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard > PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box > which costs about $500 AU. > Nick > http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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> Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle. > Gloria
You shouldn’t be putting undies on a parrot anyway — TA FAW "Hope is a feathered thing that perches in the soul" Emily Dickinson http://www2.netcom.com/~faw/Geobass/plot.html
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> YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal > Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle.
If I whistle really high pitched to my birds (not too loudly though) the girly bird is very annoyed by it. But Sapphire, the boydove gets all curious and tries to figure out what it’s all about. He stares intently at my mouth and tries to repeat it. Karsten
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YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s undies all in a bundle. Gloria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi there. > This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on > television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the > other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped > out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they > instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your > time.
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Hi there. This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your time.
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Sure they see what’s on the TV! My grey flipped out when a Stealth bomber was shown on TV. My cockatoo flipped out over the sinister-sounding music during a horror flick. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
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Birds have vision (in general) equal to or better than humans. And yes they do see in color. Yes they can see what’s on T.V.. I can’t answer the rest of your question as I am not sure. Gene >Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
Air Brusher Was here…
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We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next month. Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a conversion kit? — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Originally posted by Carolyn Lewis: > We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
I’ve heard that if a tely has PAL and SECAM you should be okay – Most new ones are. If not you may get only picture with no sound. I’m taking mine anyway and I’ll use it as a video-only TV if it doesn’t work… Watch out for DVD players though – they have to be "Chipped for multiregion" to get them working there. — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Hi Carolyn, I have a video recorder that came over recently from Germany. Power is no problem , but it wont quite "tune" all our channels. As for a conversion kit…as a technician told me about the video…a definite MAYBE. If it is not quite compatible with our standards, by the time you pay shipping and a conversion (if its possible), it may be cheaper and easier to get one here…..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > — > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems (with the sound, I believe). Daniel — Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My > understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems > (with the sound, I believe). > Daniel > — > Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia > See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
Aside from that, unless you have some monster of a telly or someone else is picking up the moving tab, it’s probably uneconomic to ship it a third of the way around the globe…..I’d say take the hit in selling it in the local bargain trader, pocket the few quid, and buy a new set when you hit Australia.
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ?
No, UK uses a different PAL version to NZ & OZ. You will get picture, but no sound.
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I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so who knows?? Hi there, Different countries have different Television standards. For example the USA uses NTSC which is basically the bandwidth at which the picture is scanned and NTSC runs at 525 lines per frame. The UK uses PAL which scans at 625 lines per frame and in theory offers a better quality picture. Different standards are not compatible and you will find that trying to use , say an NTSC video on a PAL TV will result in a black and white picture. Most newer TV’s these days offer switching for NTSC & PAL compatibility, I’m not 100% certain, but I would assume both of your TV’s fall into this category. But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of your televisions over there. G’day , Danny
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> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows??
[..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there.
The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ use VHF & UHF. A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows?? > [..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box which costs about $500 AU. Nick http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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I agree with the post that said sell your two tv’s and but new ones here – after all when you sell and pocket the few ppounds you will nearly triple that money in Aussie dollars plus the saving on the shipping and handlind, all this should go a fair way towards buring a new one — Gwen Kelly
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > > who knows?? > [..] > > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels. > To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing > to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard > PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box > which costs about $500 AU. > Nick > http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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> Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle. > Gloria
You shouldn’t be putting undies on a parrot anyway — TA FAW "Hope is a feathered thing that perches in the soul" Emily Dickinson http://www2.netcom.com/~faw/Geobass/plot.html
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> YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal > Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle.
If I whistle really high pitched to my birds (not too loudly though) the girly bird is very annoyed by it. But Sapphire, the boydove gets all curious and tries to figure out what it’s all about. He stares intently at my mouth and tries to repeat it. Karsten
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YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s undies all in a bundle. Gloria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi there. > This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on > television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the > other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped > out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they > instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your > time.
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Hi there. This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your time.
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Sure they see what’s on the TV! My grey flipped out when a Stealth bomber was shown on TV. My cockatoo flipped out over the sinister-sounding music during a horror flick. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
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Birds have vision (in general) equal to or better than humans. And yes they do see in color. Yes they can see what’s on T.V.. I can’t answer the rest of your question as I am not sure. Gene >Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
Air Brusher Was here…
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We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next month. Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a conversion kit? — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Originally posted by Carolyn Lewis: > We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
I’ve heard that if a tely has PAL and SECAM you should be okay – Most new ones are. If not you may get only picture with no sound. I’m taking mine anyway and I’ll use it as a video-only TV if it doesn’t work… Watch out for DVD players though – they have to be "Chipped for multiregion" to get them working there. — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Hi Carolyn, I have a video recorder that came over recently from Germany. Power is no problem , but it wont quite "tune" all our channels. As for a conversion kit…as a technician told me about the video…a definite MAYBE. If it is not quite compatible with our standards, by the time you pay shipping and a conversion (if its possible), it may be cheaper and easier to get one here…..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > — > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems (with the sound, I believe). Daniel — Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My > understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems > (with the sound, I believe). > Daniel > — > Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia > See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
Aside from that, unless you have some monster of a telly or someone else is picking up the moving tab, it’s probably uneconomic to ship it a third of the way around the globe…..I’d say take the hit in selling it in the local bargain trader, pocket the few quid, and buy a new set when you hit Australia.
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ?
No, UK uses a different PAL version to NZ & OZ. You will get picture, but no sound.
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I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so who knows?? Hi there, Different countries have different Television standards. For example the USA uses NTSC which is basically the bandwidth at which the picture is scanned and NTSC runs at 525 lines per frame. The UK uses PAL which scans at 625 lines per frame and in theory offers a better quality picture. Different standards are not compatible and you will find that trying to use , say an NTSC video on a PAL TV will result in a black and white picture. Most newer TV’s these days offer switching for NTSC & PAL compatibility, I’m not 100% certain, but I would assume both of your TV’s fall into this category. But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of your televisions over there. G’day , Danny
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> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows??
[..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there.
The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ use VHF & UHF. A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows?? > [..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box which costs about $500 AU. Nick http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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I agree with the post that said sell your two tv’s and but new ones here – after all when you sell and pocket the few ppounds you will nearly triple that money in Aussie dollars plus the saving on the shipping and handlind, all this should go a fair way towards buring a new one — Gwen Kelly
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > > who knows?? > [..] > > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels. > To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing > to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard > PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box > which costs about $500 AU. > Nick > http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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> Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle. > Gloria
You shouldn’t be putting undies on a parrot anyway — TA FAW "Hope is a feathered thing that perches in the soul" Emily Dickinson http://www2.netcom.com/~faw/Geobass/plot.html
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> YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal > Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle.
If I whistle really high pitched to my birds (not too loudly though) the girly bird is very annoyed by it. But Sapphire, the boydove gets all curious and tries to figure out what it’s all about. He stares intently at my mouth and tries to repeat it. Karsten
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YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s undies all in a bundle. Gloria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi there. > This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on > television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the > other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped > out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they > instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your > time.
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Hi there. This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your time.
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Sure they see what’s on the TV! My grey flipped out when a Stealth bomber was shown on TV. My cockatoo flipped out over the sinister-sounding music during a horror flick. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
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Birds have vision (in general) equal to or better than humans. And yes they do see in color. Yes they can see what’s on T.V.. I can’t answer the rest of your question as I am not sure. Gene >Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
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We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next month. Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a conversion kit? — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Originally posted by Carolyn Lewis: > We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
I’ve heard that if a tely has PAL and SECAM you should be okay – Most new ones are. If not you may get only picture with no sound. I’m taking mine anyway and I’ll use it as a video-only TV if it doesn’t work… Watch out for DVD players though – they have to be "Chipped for multiregion" to get them working there. — Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Hi Carolyn, I have a video recorder that came over recently from Germany. Power is no problem , but it wont quite "tune" all our channels. As for a conversion kit…as a technician told me about the video…a definite MAYBE. If it is not quite compatible with our standards, by the time you pay shipping and a conversion (if its possible), it may be cheaper and easier to get one here…..
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > — > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit?
While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems (with the sound, I believe). Daniel — Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ? > They are all fairly new approx 2year old or can you get a > conversion kit? > While both countries use PAL, they are slightly different varieties. My > understanding is that they won’t work, at least you’ll have minor problems > (with the sound, I believe). > Daniel > — > Daniel Bowen, Melbourne, Australia > See how I destroyed my VCR: http://www.toxiccustard.com/vcr/
Aside from that, unless you have some monster of a telly or someone else is picking up the moving tab, it’s probably uneconomic to ship it a third of the way around the globe…..I’d say take the hit in selling it in the local bargain trader, pocket the few quid, and buy a new set when you hit Australia.
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> We are trying to make an inventory of what to ship out with us next > month. > Does anybody know if our Uk tele’s will work in OZ?
No, UK uses a different PAL version to NZ & OZ. You will get picture, but no sound.
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I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so who knows?? Hi there, Different countries have different Television standards. For example the USA uses NTSC which is basically the bandwidth at which the picture is scanned and NTSC runs at 525 lines per frame. The UK uses PAL which scans at 625 lines per frame and in theory offers a better quality picture. Different standards are not compatible and you will find that trying to use , say an NTSC video on a PAL TV will result in a black and white picture. Most newer TV’s these days offer switching for NTSC & PAL compatibility, I’m not 100% certain, but I would assume both of your TV’s fall into this category. But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of your televisions over there. G’day , Danny
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> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows??
[..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there.
The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ use VHF & UHF. A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > who knows?? > [..] > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels.
To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box which costs about $500 AU. Nick http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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I agree with the post that said sell your two tv’s and but new ones here – after all when you sell and pocket the few ppounds you will nearly triple that money in Aussie dollars plus the saving on the shipping and handlind, all this should go a fair way towards buring a new one — Gwen Kelly
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I asked this question at a home entertainment forum on > > http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/ and was given the following response so > > who knows?? > [..] > > But that is all by the by because here is the good news……Australia also > > uses PAL as their standard so you should have no problems using either of > > your televisions over there. > The advice above is wrong. UK uses a different version of PAL to NZ & OZ. > The audio subcarrier is different, plus the UK uses UHF only whereas NZ & OZ > use VHF & UHF. > A UK TV will display a picture from a NZ or OZ station, but will have no > sound, and won’t be able to tune VHF channels. > To make matters worse, the Australian system is slowly changing > to a wide screen digital format. Within 6 or 7 years standard > PAL systems will not be supported without a digital convertor box > which costs about $500 AU. > Nick > http://www.allbackpackers.com.au
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> Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle. > Gloria
You shouldn’t be putting undies on a parrot anyway — TA FAW "Hope is a feathered thing that perches in the soul" Emily Dickinson http://www2.netcom.com/~faw/Geobass/plot.html
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> YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal > Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s > undies all in a bundle.
If I whistle really high pitched to my birds (not too loudly though) the girly bird is very annoyed by it. But Sapphire, the boydove gets all curious and tries to figure out what it’s all about. He stares intently at my mouth and tries to repeat it. Karsten
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YES! My TAG is very disagreeable when we discuss watching "Animal Planet." Seriously tho, even sounds of a predator will get my Gus’s undies all in a bundle. Gloria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi there. > This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on > television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the > other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped > out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they > instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your > time.
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Hi there. This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your time.
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Sure they see what’s on the TV! My grey flipped out when a Stealth bomber was shown on TV. My cockatoo flipped out over the sinister-sounding music during a horror flick. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
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Birds have vision (in general) equal to or better than humans. And yes they do see in color. Yes they can see what’s on T.V.. I can’t answer the rest of your question as I am not sure. Gene >Hi there. >This may seem like a real strange question, but can cockatiels see what is on >television, and feel threatened by it. We were watching a bird show on PBS the >other night, and when my tiels saw the big macaws flying up close, the flipped >out. They have also done it when we were watching a show on Raptors. Do they >instinctivly know, that they should fear these birds? Thanks you for your >time.
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