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Being born and raised in my first 14 yrs in southeast asia, I can tell you that most oriental’s new borns don’t have their penis circumsised. This has been going on for thousands of years and their population haven’t slowed down. This tells us that circumsise is optional and not harmful the boy’s health.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>> My six year old son is not circumsized, and I would like to talk to any >>> parents who also have sons who aren’t circumsized. Is it normal for the >>> foreskin to not be able to be pulled all the way back? Does your son have a >>> hard time peeing in the right direction without it getting all over the >>> place, and do you work with him on pulling the foreskin back? >>It is not normal for it to separate for a number of years, and attempts >>can scar the foreskin and cause later trouble – phimosis sorts of things. > No, that’s NOT what causes that. > Steve > And/or paraphimosis > Linkname: eMedicine – Phimosis and Paraphimosis : Article by Santos > Cantu, Jr, MD > URL: http://www.emedicine.com/EMERG/topic423.htm > [...] > Patient Education: > * Parental education of normal childhood congenital phimosis, even > into the school-aged years, is very important. This education > should stress the danger of forcibly retracting the foreskin for > hygienic purposes. After time, the adhesions present between the > inner prepuce and the glans will lyse on their own. > * Patients and parents of children with acquired phimosis should be > educated on the importance of proper genital hygiene with > reduction of the foreskin after each cleaning. In addition, they > should be made aware of the problems that may result from an > acquired phimosis, such as paraphimosis, obstructed urinary > stream, hematuria, or preputial pain. > * All providers of adult care should be made aware of the risk of > paraphimosis associated with bladder catheterization. They should > be reminded to always reduce the foreskin after cleaning and > catheterization. > [...] > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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I think most of the world doesn’t circumsize and the percentage of American babies being circumsized is going down very quickly.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Being born and raised in my first 14 yrs in southeast asia, I can tell you > that most oriental’s new borns don’t have their penis circumsised. This has > been going on for thousands of years and their population haven’t slowed > down. This tells us that circumsise is optional and not harmful the boy’s > health. > >>> My six year old son is not circumsized, and I would like to talk to > any > >>> parents who also have sons who aren’t circumsized. Is it normal for > the > >>> foreskin to not be able to be pulled all the way back? Does your son > have a > >>> hard time peeing in the right direction without it getting all over > the > >>> place, and do you work with him on pulling the foreskin back? > >>It is not normal for it to separate for a number of years, and attempts > >>can scar the foreskin and cause later trouble – phimosis sorts of > things. > > No, that’s NOT what causes that. > > Steve > And/or paraphimosis > Linkname: eMedicine – Phimosis and Paraphimosis : Article by Santos > Cantu, Jr, MD > URL: http://www.emedicine.com/EMERG/topic423.htm > [...] > Patient Education: > * Parental education of normal childhood congenital phimosis, even > into the school-aged years, is very important. This education > should stress the danger of forcibly retracting the foreskin for > hygienic purposes. After time, the adhesions present between the > inner prepuce and the glans will lyse on their own. > * Patients and parents of children with acquired phimosis should be > educated on the importance of proper genital hygiene with > reduction of the foreskin after each cleaning. In addition, they > should be made aware of the problems that may result from an > acquired phimosis, such as paraphimosis, obstructed urinary > stream, hematuria, or preputial pain. > * All providers of adult care should be made aware of the risk of > paraphimosis associated with bladder catheterization. They should > be reminded to always reduce the foreskin after cleaning and > catheterization. > [...] > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I think most of the world doesn’t circumsize and the percentage of American > babies being circumsized is going down very quickly. >> Being born and raised in my first 14 yrs in southeast asia, I can tell you >> that most oriental’s new borns don’t have their penis circumsised. This > has >> been going on for thousands of years and their population haven’t slowed >> down. This tells us that circumsise is optional and not harmful the boy’s >> health. >These days there is a lot of attention to sexual performance. Recently I >turned on the TV – a film called `Phenomenon’ was in progress. I seemed to >hear John Travolta’s character speak to his old doctor and chide him for >circumcising him and spoiling his `romantic’ life. I may be confused about >that. >There is a move to trying to be better physically these days. People with >a genetic disease may get counselling about procreating or abortion if >genetic tests show certain troubles in an embryo. I am not saying I agree >with that, just that it happens. There probably needs to be compromose. If >we try to eliminate the genes associated with sickle cell anaemia, then we >may eliminate the genes capable of responding to survival under stress >such as malaria. >So with circumcision, if one or other partner feels it is a disability in >an important factor of life these days, then a compromise might be made, >rather than a rejection in search of something more completed.
Cutting your OWN dick off, or part of it, and hiring a doctor to do it should be legal, but cutting ANYBODY ELSE’S off should receive the DEATH PENALTY!! Steve
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> So with circumcision, if one or other partner feels it is a disability in > an important factor of life these days, then a compromise might be made, > rather than a rejection in search of something more completed.
Personality, too? Maybe do not read on unless you are quite mature with regard to socio-sexual understanding capability, perhaps. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : > I think Abraham may have ordered the Jews to be circumcised in those days > of low population so they would not appear too different to the peoples > amongst whom they were being told to `spread their seed.’ > These days may be moving to restraint in some higly populated countries, > but as with the enclosed dolphins I posted about violent tendencies may be > building up as individual responses to testosterone levels vary.
Since USA was much more into circumcision when the current male adults were born I believe USA should be socicologically studied for a more violent response in terms of the current WTC event, whoever promulgated it. Go to Google Groups Home o Advanced Groups Search o Groups Help (_) Search all groups (_) Search the Web Groups search result 1 for sexual practice violence "circumcision status Search Result 1 Liability Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive View: (This is the only article in this thread) | Original Format (The findings of higher rates of masturbation and more "varied sex" are consistent with the theory that MGM, by amputating MOST of the sensory outlets to sexual satisfaction, leads to chronic frustration and compensatory sexual behavior. Duh. Other outlets could easily include drug and alcohol abuse, as passingly mentioned in another study which found circ’ed men are twice as likely to use IV drugs. Chronic sexual frustration could also lead to other kinds of social problems, ranging from higher divorce rates to higher rates of violence, both domestic and "foreign". But don’t count on the medical profession to lead the charge to abolish this brutal quackery. Legal liability from outraged men could completely drain their financial hoard.) Below is taken from CNN’s Front Page news story on the JAMA press release: Report offers no distinct guidance on circumcision Circumcised men tend to have more varied sex, study says April 1, 1997 Web posted at: 9:25 p.m. EST (CNN) — Circumcision offers little advantage where health is concerned, but men who are circumcised tend to have more varied sex, a study published on Tuesday said. The study, by University of Chicago researchers and published in this week’s Journal of the American Medical Association, found "significant differences between circumcised and uncircumcised men in terms of their sexual practices." "We were quite surprised to see such clear evidence, at least within the white population, that masturbation was correlated with being circumcised as well as engaging in oral sex and anal sex," University of Chicago researcher Edward Laumann said. The study said 47 percent of circumcised men reported masturbating at least once a month versus 34 percent for their uncircumcised peers. The difference in frequency cannot be explained, but it does "cast doubt on the Victorian-era notion that circumcision reduces the urge to masturbate," the study said. Reduced sensitivity? Critics of circumcision claim the study shows the procedure reduces men’s sensitivity. The researchers themselves don’t make that point, saying that the study doesn’t explain the cause of the differences. "By and large to do it [circumcision] as a routine practice for everyone doesn’t strike me as sound practice from a health point of view," Laumann said. Circumcised men were found to be nearly 1.4 times more likely to engage in heterosexual oral sex than uncircumcised men, the study reported. They also were more likely to have had homosexual oral sex and heterosexual anal intercourse. The study was based on an analysis of data collected from a sample of 1,410 men, aged 18 to 59, in the United States, which has one of the world’s highest non-religious circumcision rates. No firm guidance The new report offers no firm guidance for parents to reach a decision on the question of whether or not to circumcise their sons. Alex Enakifo and his wife Russa-Marie Oni decided to circumcise their boy, despite her objections. The prevailing factor: "It’s a family tradition that we all get circumcised," Enakifo said. That’s usually how it works, obstetrician Stephen Blank says. "Most families, the father or … male children in the family have already been circumcised, so they don’t want to appear as the outcasts of different from those other members of the family," Blank said. The study found circumcised men have a slightly lower risk of sexual dysfunction, especially later in life. Circumcision rates reached 80 percent in the United States after the World War II but peaked in the mid-1960s and have since fallen off amid debate over whether the practice has health value or adversely affects male satisfaction, the study said. "The considerable impact of circumcision status on sexual practice represents a new finding that should further enrich such discussion," the researchers wrote. "Our results support the view that physicians and parents be informed of the potential benefits and risks before circumcising newborns." Correspondent Andrew Holtz and Reuters contributed to this report. Related sites: Note: Pages will open in a new browser window JAMA Homepage Circumcision Information Resource Centre The Circumcision Information and Resource Pages Medical Benefits from Circumcision N O H A R M M – National Organization to Halt the Abuse and Routine Mutilation of Males D.O.C. – the Doctors Opposing Circumcision home page Non-Surgical Foreskin Restoration – This information was originally published by the BUFF (Brothers United for Future Foreskins) organization External sites are not endorsed by CNN Interactive. For more on this story see: LEXIS?-NEXIS? Information Service. (c) 1997 Cable News Network, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Google Web Directory – Cool Jobs – Advertise with Us – Add Google to Your Site – Google in Your Language – All About Google -2001 Google — Dodo Dolphin. 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> I think most of the world doesn’t circumsize and the percentage of American > babies being circumsized is going down very quickly. > Being born and raised in my first 14 yrs in southeast asia, I can tell you > that most oriental’s new borns don’t have their penis circumsised. This > has > been going on for thousands of years and their population haven’t slowed > down. This tells us that circumsise is optional and not harmful the boy’s > health.
These days there is a lot of attention to sexual performance. Recently I turned on the TV – a film called `Phenomenon’ was in progress. I seemed to hear John Travolta’s character speak to his old doctor and chide him for circumcising him and spoiling his `romantic’ life. I may be confused about that. There is a move to trying to be better physically these days. People with a genetic disease may get counselling about procreating or abortion if genetic tests show certain troubles in an embryo. I am not saying I agree with that, just that it happens. There probably needs to be compromose. If we try to eliminate the genes associated with sickle cell anaemia, then we may eliminate the genes capable of responding to survival under stress such as malaria. So with circumcision, if one or other partner feels it is a disability in an important factor of life these days, then a compromise might be made, rather than a rejection in search of something more completed. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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