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>Wait until some other country’s planes start flying up and down 12 miles >off the US coast listening to our cell-phone calls.
Other countries tend to use trawlers or submarines. Do you really think intelligence-gathering isn’t engaged in by every significant government on the planet? — bostnbob
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>When I visit China, I have no fear of being taken "hostage" as I don’t >plane on spying.
Be careful; their definition of spying might be a bit looser than yours. — bostnbob
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> >When I visit China, I have no fear of being taken "hostage" as I don’t >plane on spying. > Be careful; their definition of spying might be a bit looser than > yours.
Such as??? What specific spying there would not be considered spying here? I want to hear about your expertise on this subject, perhaps I missed something in my other journeys to China.
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: If you are planning to fly to Beijing, please leave us your next of kin : info, so we know who to call when you are held hostage!!! : Maryanne : …Free the Hainan 24! It’s rather ironic for someone crusading for human rights and freedoms as much as you do, that both ‘ATL’ and ‘SVO’ are cities that have historically been associated with oppression (the American South during the era of slavery and before the advent of civil rights, and the Soviet Union during the Communist era)
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> : If you are planning to fly to Beijing, please leave us your next of kin > : info, so we know who to call when you are held hostage!!! > : Maryanne > : …Free the Hainan 24! > It’s rather ironic for someone crusading for human rights and freedoms as > much as you do, that both ‘ATL’ and ‘SVO’ are cities that have > historically been associated with oppression (the American South during > the era of slavery and before the advent of civil rights, and the Soviet > Union during the Communist era)
Maryanne has always been a bit confused on the relationships of disparate societies, but it makes for interesting debates 
Cheers, Rick
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Hostage?? It’s a military plane with a military crew that was monitoring electronic communications in China. As much as I think they should come back, I hardly equate this with the term "hostages" When I visit China, I have no fear of being taken "hostage" as I don’t plane on spying. Michael – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > If you are planning to fly to Beijing, please leave us your next of kin > info, so we know who to call when you are held hostage!!! > Maryanne > …Free the Hainan 24!
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> Don’t bother arguing with her, she’s a right-fringe, fur-wearing, luggage- > searching, webtv loon. > Wait until some other country’s planes start flying up and down 12 miles > off the US coast listening to our cell-phone calls.
The plane was 70 miles off the Chinese coast :O
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Do they get more FF miles for connecting in Hainan?
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>There IS humor in r.t.a!
I don’t think most of us would be here if there wasn’t any humour – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>If you are planning to fly to Beijing, please leave us your next of kin >>info, so we know who to call when you are held hostage!!! >If you are planning to fly to America, please leave us your next of >kin info, so we know who to call when you are shot by a bored school >kid!!! >>…Free the Hainan 24! >…Re-animate the Hainan 1! >Your Turn
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[snip] > Soviet "Bears" used to do it all the time. Refuel in Havana and turn > around and go home. There are some good pictures of the Bears being > "escorted" by USAF fighters as they made thier transits along the coast.
And amazingly, we managed NOT to fly INTO them.
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>> If you are planning to fly to Beijing, please leave us your next of kin > info, so we know who to call when you are held hostage!!! > Maryanne > …Free the Hainan 24! >Unless you are planning to fly there in a spy plane, there should >not be a problem!
My, you ARE naive about the nature of the Chinese government. — bostnbob
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Why do you say that? Is someone being held hostage at the moment? As far as i can tell, you are making this remark due to the USA spy plane that had to land in Hanian. But to my interpretation of the incident there aren’t any hostages there. "Hostage: person who is illegally held prisoner until certain demands are met by other people." Well, i guess it could be said there are some demands, but they aren’t being held illegally. It could also be argued that they aren’t being held until certain demands are met by other people, more they are being questioned due to the incident/s they were involved in. Jamie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you are planning to fly to Beijing, please leave us your next of kin > info, so we know who to call when you are held hostage!!! > Maryanne > …Free the Hainan 24!
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>but they aren’t being held illegally.
If that is the case, then they would have been on U.S. soil long ago!!!
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There IS humor in r.t.a! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->If you are planning to fly to Beijing, please leave us your next of kin >info, so we know who to call when you are held hostage!!! >If you are planning to fly to America, please leave us your next of >kin info, so we know who to call when you are shot by a bored school >kid!!! >…Free the Hainan 24! >…Re-animate the Hainan 1! >Your Turn
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(maryanne kehoe) wrote >If you are planning to fly to Beijing…..
Read the local paper… www.peopledaily.com.cn then follow the link in the top left hand corner to the English Language version… Sent via http://MailAndNews.com
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Don’t bother arguing with her, she’s a right-fringe, fur-wearing, luggage- searching, webtv loon. Wait until some other country’s planes start flying up and down 12 miles off the US coast listening to our cell-phone calls. Miss Arizona Highways will be demonstrating in the streets, wearing her best fur coat and drinking out of a bottle of Russian vodka she has declared and paid duty on, demanding that the planes be shot down and the crews sent to the electric chair without trial. Do the Chinese think they’re the same as the U S of A, leader of the Free World? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Why do you say that? Is someone being held hostage at the moment? As far >as i can tell, you are making this remark due to the USA spy plane that >had to land in Hanian. >But to my interpretation of the incident there aren’t any hostages >there. >"Hostage: >person who is illegally held prisoner until certain demands are met by >other people." >Well, i guess it could be said there are some demands, but they aren’t >being held illegally. It could also be argued that they aren’t being >held until certain demands are met by other people, more they are being >questioned due to the incident/s they were involved in. >Jamie > If you are planning to fly to Beijing, please leave us your next of > kin info, so we know who to call when you are held hostage!!!
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>>If you are planning to fly to Beijing, please leave us your next of kin >info, so we know who to call when you are held hostage!!! >If you are planning to fly to America, please leave us your next of >kin info, so we know who to call when you are shot by a bored school >kid!!!
How true! And considering that Maryanne is resident of Atlanta (not exactly my idea of a sanctuary from crime), it seems to be pretty odd warning. >…Free the Hainan 24! >…Re-animate the Hainan 1! >Your Turn
–Tom To email me, remove the obvious.
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Russian ships routinely sit 6 miles off the coast of Virginia monitoring electromagnetic emmissions from our nation’s capital. Russian aircraft routinely fly along the west coast, monitoring EMF signals from within US territory. It is an accepted practice among all intelligence gathering nations (USA, Russia, France, The UK, Canada, China, and even Jamaica). Some gather the information for personal use, some gather it to sell. But not until recently did countries send kamikazee pilots up to stop it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Don’t bother arguing with her, she’s a right-fringe, fur-wearing, luggage- >searching, webtv loon. >Wait until some other country’s planes start flying up and down 12 miles >off the US coast listening to our cell-phone calls. Miss Arizona Highways >will be demonstrating in the streets, wearing her best fur coat and >drinking out of a bottle of Russian vodka she has declared and paid duty >on, demanding that the planes be shot down and the crews sent to the >electric chair without trial. Do the Chinese think they’re the same as the >U S of A, leader of the Free World? >Why do you say that? Is someone being held hostage at the moment? As far >as i can tell, you are making this remark due to the USA spy plane that >had to land in Hanian. >But to my interpretation of the incident there aren’t any hostages >there. >"Hostage: >person who is illegally held prisoner until certain demands are met by >other people." >Well, i guess it could be said there are some demands, but they aren’t >being held illegally. It could also be argued that they aren’t being >held until certain demands are met by other people, more they are being >questioned due to the incident/s they were involved in. >Jamie >> If you are planning to fly to Beijing, please leave us your next of >> kin info, so we know who to call when you are held hostage!!!
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I wonder if americans needing to travel to china on business have started to book on non-USA airlines ?
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> Don’t bother arguing with her, she’s a right-fringe, fur-wearing, luggage- > searching, webtv loon. > Wait until some other country’s planes start flying up and down 12 miles > off the US coast
Soviet "Bears" used to do it all the time. Refuel in Havana and turn around and go home. There are some good pictures of the Bears being "escorted" by USAF fighters as they made thier transits along the coast.
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>If you are planning to fly to Beijing, please leave us your next of kin >info, so we know who to call when you are held hostage!!!
If you are planning to fly to America, please leave us your next of kin info, so we know who to call when you are shot by a bored school kid!!! >…Free the Hainan 24!
…Re-animate the Hainan 1! Your Turn
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It isn’t boredom, it’s bad parenting. Marcus – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you are planning to fly to America, please leave us your next of > kin info, so we know who to call when you are shot by a bored school > kid!!!
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If you are planning to fly to Beijing, please leave us your next of kin info, so we know who to call when you are held hostage!!! Maryanne …Free the Hainan 24!
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> If you are planning to fly to Beijing, please leave us your next of kin > info, so we know who to call when you are held hostage!!! > Maryanne > …Free the Hainan 24!
Unless you are planning to fly there in a spy plane, there should not be a problem! Gilbert Beno
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