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>Whenever you want to go, pick them up, take their diapers off, and sit >facing the back of the toilet. Then you go, and after a few go’s they >will to. No hasstle, keep at it, and you will find that they will elbow >you off after a while and want to do it by themselves. We still >continued to go ourselves facing the back for quite a while. They do >like to mimic! >Rayner Garner The Nurturing Center
You cant be serious! Anyone who believes this BS needs to switch to decaf. That’s not potty training…..The child doesnt know what’s going on. You just memorize their wetting/pooping schedule and plant them in front of a toilet. Kevin G. http://www.excel.net/~kgumm/ ==NOTICE== To reply to this message privatly, remove the those evil SPAMMERS into thinking that’s my actual e-mail adress. I encourage everyone to use this method. It works well! :+)
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I am with you! Jen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->You cant be serious! Anyone who believes this BS needs to switch to >decaf. >That’s not potty training…..The child doesnt know what’s going on. >You just memorize their wetting/pooping schedule and plant them in >front of a toilet. >Kevin G. >http://www.excel.net/~kgumm/ >==NOTICE== >To reply to this message privatly, remove the >those evil SPAMMERS into thinking that’s my actual >e-mail adress. I encourage everyone to use this method. >It works well! :+)
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> > My daughter turns 2 this month (on the 23rd!) and we have been getting > some grief from the grandparents (actually just my step-mom and > stepsister) that she is not yet potty trained. > Yeah, it seems that earlier generations potty-trained their children earlier. > My mom claims that all seven of her children were potty trained by the > time they were two years old. >Big snip>>> > Mike
We potty trained our two daughters before a year old on the advice of a very wise grandmother from Hawaii, whom my wife met in a mall in Honolulu. Whenever you want to go, pick them up, take their diapers off, and sit facing the back of the toilet. Then you go, and after a few go’s they will to. No hasstle, keep at it, and you will find that they will elbow you off after a while and want to do it by themselves. We still continued to go ourselves facing the back for quite a while. They do like to mimic! Rayner Garner The Nurturing Center
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There is no rule that says when a child needs to be potty trained (of course it would be nice before they turned 5). You’re just starting with your daughter, and you need to make her feel in control of using the potty. That’s first and foremost, or else you’re going to have a sticky situation on your hands like your neighbor. Your daughter’s already interested in the potty, even if she does use it as a stool. She’s sitting on it, which is good, too. Eventually, she’ll "go pee pee". I invited my daughter to go to the store with me to buy her some pretty underwear, and she was thrilled. I allowed her to pick out the underwear, as well. Sometimes she wants to wear her diaper, and I allow her to. I figured that eventually, she’d stop wanting the diaper all together. That’s exactly what happened. She’s in underwear all day now (at 2 1/2) but I have her wear diapers at naptime and bedtime (and she doesn’t like it, but understands why she has to wear them for the time being). I didn’t start my daughter potty training until she was your daughter’s age, and started exactly as you did. It’s taken six months to almost fully train her and she’s quite happy with her potty and ours! I really think the clue is to let her take charge and let her keep the control. When she is ready to go full speed ahead, you’ll know and will be pleasantly surprised. Good luck, Susan
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Don’t feel bad… my daughter was potty trained by 28 months, but it took a while. She showed the signs: telling us she was wet/dirty, and so on. My son, who will be two in Dec., doesn’t even want to sit down on the potty. My daughter also didn’t actually train until she got panties (We tried everything). So, they will when they’re ready. > My Penelope Leach book tells about a smooth potty >transition, but I don’t know if it happens in the real world.
I read things about potty training and none of it seemed to work for me, except the part that they have to be ready. Don’t worry,she’ll suprise you out of the blue one day and go. Researching: STEPPLETON, COOK, HENSON, JAMESON, WILLIAMS
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>My daughter turns 2 this month… we have been getting >some grief from the grandparents that she is not yet potty trained.
Tell them Ron says they’re nuts. > I hear [the neighbors] arguing about potty stuff until he throws a fit
They’re getting what they deserve. >I don’t know if [a smooth potty transition] happens in the real world.
Smooth? Maybe not. Fun? Definitely! If you’ve got a book by Leach, I’m sure you know she needs a few skills to be ready to learn toileting: 1) the desire to be like grown-ups (or big kids). At my kids’ school some of the 3 y/o in the toddler room have no drive to use the toilet until they are shown that the pre-school room has no diapers and none of the kids there use diapers. The toddlers are first swept into a fever of excitement about graduating to pre-school, and then they are made to understand the necessity of toileting. These hold-outs learn in 1 to 3 days. 2) the muscle control to hold urine and BMs in until a toilet is available or while sleeping. You can’t force this one; some kids are late. 3) the ability to recognize the urge to eliminate; and the willingness to suspend whatever fun or interesting activity is underway and break for the toilet. This is a maturity thing, too, but you can reassure her that you will resume playing when she’s done. 4) language skills and coordination. She needs to communicate when a toilet is needed. She needs to be able to get her clothes off (dress her in sweat pants or shorts). She needs to understand your instructions. 5) your patience, instruction, and support. Get a nice short book about toileting. Read it together regularly. Talk about older cousins or friends who use the toilet. Let her watch you. Always use the same words for things. Avoid private euphomisms and stick with things other caregivers will understand; BM, urine, etc. Avoid acting revolted by her output. Around two is great time to start learning about it and assessing readiness. Expect to practice all the skills for a couple months. Every time you check a and find a dry diaper, make a fuss and offer her the chance to use the potty. Set up rewards for producing something. In our house, Morgen gets to flush. You might try stickers on a calender. Get cotton training pants with the thick absorbant crotch. Let her wear those some days and see how she does after you explain that she needs to let her her urine go only in the potty. You’ll know when to completely switch from diapers. For nighttime, I put Morgen on the potty and then into a diaper. If she’s dry in the morning, there is a great happy fuss. If not, no big deal. As for arguing, we offer Morgen a choice every couple hours. "Would like to use the potty now, or do you want to wear a diaper?" Her choice. No argument. There will be plenty of accidents. Any kid (especially boys) fully taught before 3 should be considered early. – Ron Low Levity is the dearth of gravity. Brevity is the height of clarity.
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My daughter turns 2 this month (on the 23rd!) and we have been getting some grief from the grandparents (actually just my step-mom and stepsister) that she is not yet potty trained. First of all, I don’t intend to defend myself to them (both of whom have different parenting approaches than my husband and I), but I would like to hear what all of you have to say about when and how you began potty training. About 2 months ago we bought a potty chair and started showing Katelyn how we "go peepee in the potty" (using OUR potty, not hers!:-). So far, the only interest she has shown is to use it as a stool when she brushes her teeth! She has sat naked on it a few times (while we cheered!), but not to go to the bathroom. The couple next door have a son 2 days younger than Katelyn that they are pushing to potty. She is due with their second in December and wants him out of diapers before then. I hear them arguing about potty stuff until he throws a fit (She: "Let’s try to go potty before we go" Son: "No!" She: "Come on, let’s just try." Son: "NO!" She: "Get in here NOW" Son: "NO!" <scream, cry, kick>) I do not want this type of potty scenario. I don’t want to fight about this. Has anyone had a "smooth" potty experience or is there always this type of argument/coercion? My Penelope Leach book tells about a smooth potty transition, but I don’t know if it happens in the real world. All replies would be appreciated via the newsgroup. My e-mail address is also used for work, so I’ve altered it to avoid junk. Thanks! Jennifer, Katelyn’s mom
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