Pure Parents

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"People who love sex also love the words for it, ALL of them." Which leaves you out. You only like the disparaging words. Best, G22

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Steve….has it ever occurred to you that people who dislike "dirty > words" for sex…..object precisely because they feel that such words > are insulting to "sex"……which they love? >People who love sex also love the words for it, ALL of them. >But people who are so nervous that they have to justify their sex to >others so they are not disparaged for it are accepting of being labeled >"sinful" by such people, and they search for ways to justify their >sexual activities so that they are "sanctified". They use latin and >greek instead of germanic or celtic words, as if in imitation of the >unemotional medicalese of dry "experts", and reject sex in its most >comfortable and its most real forms.

Too broad a brush, there, Van Gough. I love sex.  However, I fully realize that many folks, because of our general upbringing, are sometimes put off by them (for oh-so-many reasons often having absolutely nothing to do with religion).  For reasons having to do wore with a desire to communicate, than anything else, I elect to not usually use your grade skool vocabulary when it comes to this subject. I do, though, reserve the right to use any word that I might find useful for effect.  To overuse those words just tosses the effect in the dumpster. — Do not underestimate your abilities.  That is your boss’s job. It is your job to find ways around your boss’s roadblocks.

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> "People frightened of the implications of a freer sexuality and words > used for sex will instead pretend they are being insulted. It’s easier > for embarrassed people than trying to explain their embarrassment. This > is the origin of people’s reactions to "dirty words". Steve" > Steve….has it ever occurred to you that people who dislike "dirty > words" for sex…..object precisely because they feel that such words > are insulting to "sex"……which they love?

People who love sex also love the words for it, ALL of them. But people who are so nervous that they have to justify their sex to others so they are not disparaged for it are accepting of being labeled "sinful" by such people, and they search for ways to justify their sexual activities so that they are "sanctified". They use latin and greek instead of germanic or celtic words, as if in imitation of the unemotional medicalese of dry "experts", and reject sex in its most comfortable and its most real forms. > You were obviously brought up in an extremely repressive and > sex-condemning atomosphere.

No, not particularly, and far less than most people. My parents were "mostly harmless". >  You may have even been beaten, in relation > to the subject.

Hah, hardly!! > Terrible, of course.  And one can only have sympathy, if such was the > case.

Sorry to disappoint you. > So you cannot ‘love’ sex, now….perhaps.

This would surprise my lovers and my family to know, since they don’t see this at all. >  You can only fling around the > Dirty Words that were flung at you, one must assume…in an effort to > mitigate their sting. > But it never helps, does it?

Boy are you an amateur at this sort of posturing!! > Because it’s a futile exercise.  Such an ingrained hatred and aversion > to sex that you seem to display can only be alleviated with some sound > counselling, I think.  Have you ever tried that?

No, sorry. You’re getting so far out on the limb that I’m waiting for it to snap!! > It can really be quite useful and "free-ing", I have heard, for people > in the morass you appear to be in. > Just a thought. > Best to you, in your journey to….’freedom’, > G22

Awh, you disappoint me, all you are is an disingenuous ass. Steve

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"People frightened of the implications of a freer sexuality and words used for sex will instead pretend they are being insulted. It’s easier for embarrassed people than trying to explain their embarrassment. This is the origin of people’s reactions to "dirty words". Steve" Steve….has it ever occurred to you that people who dislike "dirty words" for sex…..object precisely because they feel that such words are insulting to "sex"……which they love? You were obviously brought up in an extremely repressive and sex-condemning atomosphere.  You may have even been beaten, in relation to the subject. Terrible, of course.  And one can only have sympathy, if such was the case. So you cannot ‘love’ sex, now….perhaps.  You can only fling around the Dirty Words that were flung at you, one must assume…in an effort to mitigate their sting. But it never helps, does it? Because it’s a futile exercise.  Such an ingrained hatred and aversion to sex that you seem to display can only be alleviated with some sound counselling, I think.  Have you ever tried that? It can really be quite useful and "free-ing", I have heard, for people in the morass you appear to be in. Just a thought. Best to you, in your journey to….’freedom’, G22  

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>  …Do you do it to get a rise out of people for the fun of it? (Assuming you’re > 13-18 years old), or are you simply a very miserable human being?

Only 13-18 year-olds would behave this way? Do you assume that only older individuals can behave graciously and intelligently? donna > —

"Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we’re looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn’t test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." – P.J. O’Rourke Before you buy.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Hello, I suggest Breeanna do the same thing. Just kill file posters >>that are abusive like that. If a person is consistently doing nothing >>but upsetting you, then why even read what they have to say? Is it >>enriching your life somehow? Are you actually going to learn anything >>from this abusive person? The answer is NO. I kill filed Steve the >>second day I read the group and found about six responses that were >>unbelievably abusive to the poster. Who needs that kind of stress when >>I already have a household to take care of with 4 kids? I learned a >>long time ago to relieve as many points of stress as possible and then >>live a happier life! >_______ >Cathy >**People demand freedom of speech as a substitution for the freedom of thought >which they seldom use.** > It’s certainly not a bad way of dealing with your own stress, but it > does cause you to miss some of the good advice he gives on other > threads where he is not concentrating on pounding people over the > head with his sexual freedom agenda… > Dorothy

People frightened of the implications of a freer sexuality and words used for sex will instead pretend they are being insulted. It’s easier for embarrassed people than trying to explain their embarrassment. This is the origin of people’s reactions to "dirty words". Steve

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hello, I suggest Breeanna do the same thing. Just kill file posters >that are abusive like that. If a person is consistently doing nothing >but upsetting you, then why even read what they have to say? Is it >enriching your life somehow? Are you actually going to learn anything >from this abusive person? The answer is NO. I kill filed Steve the >second day I read the group and found about six responses that were >unbelievably abusive to the poster. Who needs that kind of stress when >I already have a household to take care of with 4 kids? I learned a >long time ago to relieve as many points of stress as possible and then >live a happier life! >_______ >Cathy >**People demand freedom of speech as a substitution for the freedom of thought >which they seldom use.**

It’s certainly not a bad way of dealing with your own stress, but it does cause you to miss some of the good advice he gives on other threads where he is not concentrating on pounding people over the head with his sexual freedom agenda… Dorothy

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>Hello, I suggest Breeanna do the same thing. Just kill file posters >that are abusive like that. If a person is consistently doing nothing >but upsetting you, then why even read what they have to say? Is it >enriching your life somehow? Are you actually going to learn anything >from this abusive person? The answer is NO. I kill filed Steve the >second day I read the group and found about six responses that were >unbelievably abusive to the poster. Who needs that kind of stress when >I already have a household to take care of with 4 kids? I learned a >long time ago to relieve as many points of stress as possible and then >live a happier life!

_______ Cathy **People demand freedom of speech as a substitution for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.**

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Hello, I suggest Breeanna do the same thing. Just kill file posters that are abusive like that. If a person is consistently doing nothing but upsetting you, then why even read what they have to say? Is it enriching your life somehow? Are you actually going to learn anything from this abusive person? The answer is NO. I kill filed Steve the second day I read the group and found about six responses that were unbelievably abusive to the poster. Who needs that kind of stress when I already have a household to take care of with 4 kids? I learned a long time ago to relieve as many points of stress as possible and then live a happier life! Take care, Deanna Mom of 4. To reply on email remove no spam on address. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> These are VERY old questions. I am prfoundly disappointed in my species. > I express this angrily, as I feel it actually gets more attention for my > causes than they would get without it. I CAN take the heat with great > equanimity, so I do. >Yeah but Steve with people like me, if it gets too much, we just block you, >which I did.  I have unblocked you cause I was dieing to see what you would >say to this post lol.  But if you annoy me again too much well…. >Annemarie

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> These are VERY old questions. I am prfoundly disappointed in my species. > I express this angrily, as I feel it actually gets more attention for my > causes than they would get without it. I CAN take the heat with great > equanimity, so I do.

Yeah but Steve with people like me, if it gets too much, we just block you, which I did.  I have unblocked you cause I was dieing to see what you would say to this post lol.  But if you annoy me again too much well…. Annemarie

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> > These are VERY old questions. I am prfoundly disappointed in my species. > I express this angrily, as I feel it actually gets more attention for my > causes than they would get without it. I CAN take the heat with great > equanimity, so I do. > Yeah but Steve with people like me, if it gets too much, we just block you, > which I did.  I have unblocked you cause I was dieing to see what you would > say to this post lol.  But if you annoy me again too much well…. > Annemarie

Ah well, the fickle finger of fatuousness blows whichever way it must, while I must simply stand in its flow. Steve

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This is my first post to this newsgroup, or at least in a long time as I cannot recall the last time I posted to it. Some of the posts are very enlightening and informative.  I really enjoy the diversity of the topics posted.  I cannot help but notice however that one particular poster is as foul mouthed and argumentative as the come.   So my questions to "Steve" are, why are you so foul mouthed and nasty tempered?  Do you do it to get a rise out of people for the fun of it?  (Assuming you’re 13-18 years old), or are you simply a very miserable human being?   Lastly, aside from the fun of ticking people off on this newgroup, what exactly do you get out of this newsgroup?  Are you even a parent? Perhaps you might find a more satisfying relief for your anger by starting a newsgroup titled alt.miserableoldmenwhohaventgottenanyinalonglongtime. Bree

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> This is my first post to this newsgroup, or at least in a long time as I cannot > recall the last time I posted to it. > Some of the posts are very enlightening and informative.  I really enjoy the > diversity of the topics posted.  I cannot help but notice however that one > particular poster is as foul mouthed and argumentative as the come. > So my questions to "Steve" are, why are you so foul mouthed and nasty tempered?

These are VERY old questions. I am prfoundly disappointed in my species. I express this angrily, as I feel it actually gets more attention for my causes than they would get without it. I CAN take the heat with great equanimity, so I do.

Well, it is fun, often, but it is quite serious. To get a rise? No, I think the answer to that is no, the anger is genuine. > (Assuming you’re > 13-18 years old), or are you simply a very miserable human being?

Actually I’m 50 this spring. > Lastly, aside from the fun of ticking people off on this newgroup, what exactly > do you get out of this newsgroup?  

I enjoy affecting people as only I seem to do. If there was already a few people here just like me I’d go do it someplace else. Are you even a parent? I have two kids, d-24 and s-26. > Perhaps you might find a more satisfying relief for your anger by starting a > newsgroup titled alt.miserableoldmenwhohaventgottenanyinalonglongtime. > Bree

On that accord you’d be wrong, unless "longlongtime" for you is about 20 minutes!! Steve

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