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>NO, only that your service is supernews. Mine says central fl. as that is >part of the name of my service. When I had earthlink I don’t think it >mentioned my location quite so specifically.
Aahh, I have no idea what supernews is. Lol. We have a cable modem and go thru our cable company (obviously). I’m glad it doesn’t outright say but then I guess it’s not too hard to find out. >Where are those gurus, anyway? Do I have to go to my best source of info? >Where is that husband, anyway? I had him kicking around here somewhere last >I knew…. >-Aula
Lol. It’s true, my husband could probably work it out too but he’s deployed right now. Interesting. Thanks, Sophie
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> > If you want to attempt to determine something about the source of a > posting, start here: > :NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.166.90.157 > … which is an IP address belonging to an ISP in New Brunswick, Canada. > How do you learn where the ISP is assigned? > -Aula
http://www.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >How do you learn where the ISP is assigned? > >-Aula > I’d be interested to know that too, just out of curiosity. Aula I can > tell > where you’re from cos when I open your post it says Organization – Central > Florida. > Can you tell on mine? Lol. > NO, only that your service is supernews. Mine says central fl. as that is > part of the name of my service. When I had earthlink I don’t think it > mentioned my location quite so specifically. > Where are those gurus, anyway? Do I have to go to my best source of info? > Where is that husband, anyway? I had him kicking around here somewhere last > I knew…. > -Aula
Well, not all is always as it seems. For example, you can’t tell by looking where it is I live.
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> If you want to attempt to determine something about the source of a > posting, start here: > :NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.166.90.157 > … which is an IP address belonging to an ISP in New Brunswick, Canada.
How do you learn where the ISP is assigned? -Aula
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>How do you learn where the ISP is assigned? >-Aula
I’d be interested to know that too, just out of curiosity. Aula I can tell where you’re from cos when I open your post it says Organization – Central Florida. Can you tell on mine? Lol. Later, Sophie
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> >How do you learn where the ISP is assigned? >-Aula > I’d be interested to know that too, just out of curiosity. Aula I can tell > where you’re from cos when I open your post it says Organization – Central > Florida. > Can you tell on mine? Lol.
NO, only that your service is supernews. Mine says central fl. as that is part of the name of my service. When I had earthlink I don’t think it mentioned my location quite so specifically. Where are those gurus, anyway? Do I have to go to my best source of info? Where is that husband, anyway? I had him kicking around here somewhere last I knew…. -Aula
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Thank you for those who provided decent responses. For those others, if you are going to be members of a parenting solutions group, you are not very inviting. Despite what someone wrote, I did not write a similar post earlier. Has it ever entered your mind that parents visit this site, have a situation to discuss, and enter the search word ‘parenting’… and this forum is found in the search results. If a parent posts a question, and being new to the group, asks a similar question that someone earlier may have posted, why would you assume it just must be that same person writing back to wreak havoc on your site? How would I have known if someone else had written about the same thing, and if they did, wouldn’t it only make sense that no problem is exclusive? I have no idea what you mean, that I’m a ‘troll’. All I wanted were some constructive ideas for assistance. If you are truly interested in building a parenting forum claiming to have ’solutions’, please don’t scare new people away. I can hardly believe I’m having to defend myself in this forum, of all forums. MOST IMPORTANTLY, if parents come to you looking for help, and you assume they’re not telling the truth right from the start, do you really think you’re providing a service? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about > what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and > this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along with > 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and 
looked at and touched > each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and > finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her > that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with her to > be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have > approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else > happened, and with no one else. > However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what > happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. We > tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her that, > although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she > did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious to > see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a symbol > of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her her if > we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell her > that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would help > her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. This > didn’t seem to help much. > It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, seems > to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If she > sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind > her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just > can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would be > better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think > about something we are bound to think about it more. > Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of > opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of > questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just curiosity > between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we ask > her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives something to > be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each > time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this > subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? What > could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the end > of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about > it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
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> You guys! This is Ben Malone/Joe Alden, the troll!!! > Hello in Florida, Ben! > Look at the headers: > nntp1-sf.pbi.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!63.208.208.143! > feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com! > news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu! > nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!
I don’t know what you think you’re seeing, but all that Path: header shows is who Deja peers with. Syracuse moves more news than almost any other server globally, and appears in a whole lot of headers. If you want to attempt to determine something about the source of a posting, start here: :NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.166.90.157 … which is an IP address belonging to an ISP in New Brunswick, Canada. Troll he may be, but from Florida he is likely not. —
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> Young girls of that age don’t get ideas like that about sex & everything she > see’s reminds her of a sexual body part without some kind of adult input.
They don’t! Small children, girls especially just don’t react that way. Grown men do however. Sexually abused little girls frequently have problems with incontinence, and other symptoms. Sexual symbolism is NOT one of the signs in girls. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sure kids are curious & will at some stage MAYBE explore themselves with > another kid of the same age. But imo the things you describe cannot come > soley from the innocent minds of 6 7 & 8 year olds without some how seeing > or hearing it from another source.first. Are you sure she is not watching > adult movies perhaps at a friends house, or seen some books that have been > left lying around. Or even maybe (i risk being flamed here) imo, you are > just making it up for some sick reason. > Tracy > Mum to Lydia, 9 & Michael, 3. > Think you can, think you can’t, > either way your right. > I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about > what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and > this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along with > 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and looked at and touched > each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and > finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her > that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with her to > be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have > approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else > happened, and with no one else. > However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what > happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. We > tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her that, > although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she > did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious to > see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a symbol > of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her her if > we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell her > that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would help > her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. This > didn’t seem to help much. > It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, seems > to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If she > sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind > her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just > can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would be > better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think > about something we are bound to think about it more. > Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of > opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of > questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just curiosity > between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we ask > her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives something to > be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each > time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this > subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? What > could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the end > of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about > it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Elaine doesn’t have kids, so of course she thinks this is about the adult. >> (Actually, most of her posts are really about herself – you have OCD in >> your family, right, Elaine?) >> At any rate, this is one of the more wacked-out posts that our resident >> childless clueless troll contributes regularly. You’re free to ignore it. >> Banty >she is right on this one, I think. the OP sounds like a troll to me — >with his own sexual obsessions to share with us > Hard to tell who’s the troll. It did occur to me – but, *where* would > someone with a real concern like this go?
A mental health professional.
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>> Elaine doesn’t have kids, so of course she thinks this is about the adult. > (Actually, most of her posts are really about herself – you have OCD in > your family, right, Elaine?) > At any rate, this is one of the more wacked-out posts that our resident > childless clueless troll contributes regularly. You’re free to ignore it. > Banty >she is right on this one, I think. the OP sounds like a troll to me — >with his own sexual obsessions to share with us
Hard to tell who’s the troll. It did occur to me – but, *where* would someone with a real concern like this go? Banty – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Ok, I’m not sure if this is your daughter or yourself you’re talking about. > >I strongly suspect it’s you. > >There’s a good possibility that you have obsessive/compulsive disorder. > >This sort of sexual obsession sort of just plain doesn’t happen in 7yr. > >olds, especially girls. > >However, in any event, ocd is heritable, and if she indeed is as precocious > >as you say, she inherited her condition from you. > >YOU need to see a good psychiatrist. One who can prescribe some medications. > >If your child is actually behaving as you claim, take her with you. > >> I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about > >> what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and > >> this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along with > >> 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and looked at and touched > >> each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and > >> finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her > >> that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with her to > >> be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have > >> approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else > >> happened, and with no one else. > >> However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what > >> happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. We > >> tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her that, > >> although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she > >> did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious to > >> see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a symbol > >> of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her her if > >> we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell her > >> that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would help > >> her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. This > >> didn’t seem to help much. > >> It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, seems > >> to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If she > >> sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind > >> her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just > >> can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would be > >> better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think > >> about something we are bound to think about it more. > >> Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of > >> opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of > >> questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just curiosity > >> between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we ask > >> her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives something to > >> be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each > >> time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this > >> subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? What > >> could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the end > >> of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about > >> it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
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> Elaine doesn’t have kids, so of course she thinks this is about the adult. > (Actually, most of her posts are really about herself – you have OCD in > your family, right, Elaine?) > At any rate, this is one of the more wacked-out posts that our resident > childless clueless troll contributes regularly. You’re free to ignore it. > Banty
she is right on this one, I think. the OP sounds like a troll to me — with his own sexual obsessions to share with us – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Ok, I’m not sure if this is your daughter or yourself you’re talking about. >I strongly suspect it’s you. >There’s a good possibility that you have obsessive/compulsive disorder. >This sort of sexual obsession sort of just plain doesn’t happen in 7yr. >olds, especially girls. >However, in any event, ocd is heritable, and if she indeed is as precocious >as you say, she inherited her condition from you. >YOU need to see a good psychiatrist. One who can prescribe some medications. >If your child is actually behaving as you claim, take her with you. >> I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about >> what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and >> this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along with >> 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and looked at and touched >> each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and >> finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her >> that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with her to >> be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have >> approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else >> happened, and with no one else. >> However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what >> happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. We >> tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her that, >> although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she >> did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious to >> see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a symbol >> of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her her if >> we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell her >> that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would help >> her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. This >> didn’t seem to help much. >> It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, seems >> to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If she >> sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind >> her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just >> can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would be >> better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think >> about something we are bound to think about it more. >> Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of >> opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of >> questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just curiosity >> between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we ask >> her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives something to >> be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each >> time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this >> subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? What >> could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the end >> of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about >> it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
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> Young girls of that age don’t get ideas like that about sex & everything she > see’s reminds her of a sexual body part without some kind of adult input. > Sure kids are curious & will at some stage MAYBE explore themselves with > another kid of the same age. But imo the things you describe cannot come > soley from the innocent minds of 6 7 & 8 year olds without some how seeing > or hearing it from another source.first. Are you sure she is not watching > adult movies perhaps at a friends house, or seen some books that have been > left lying around. Or even maybe (i risk being flamed here) imo, you are > just making it up for some sick reason.
I would bet that the OP is the one with the problem — maybe even visiting from one of the perve groups because he wants to talk about his obsession with Moms and Dads — and maybe gets a thrill from shocking them. Kids don’t have this reaction from the perfectly normal exploration that kids this age do — they have this reaction when they are molested by adults. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> — > Tracy > Mum to Lydia, 9 & Michael, 3. > Think you can, think you can’t, > either way your right. > I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about > what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and > this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along with > 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and looked at and touched > each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and > finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her > that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with her to > be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have > approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else > happened, and with no one else. > However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what > happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. We > tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her that, > although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she > did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious to > see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a symbol > of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her her if > we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell her > that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would help > her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. This > didn’t seem to help much. > It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, seems > to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If she > sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind > her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just > can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would be > better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think > about something we are bound to think about it more. > Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of > opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of > questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just curiosity > between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we ask > her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives something to > be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each > time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this > subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? What > could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the end > of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about > it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
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> I came to this post looking for assistance. I can’t believe the > replies! That’s what I get for looking to the internet for help. > First of all, it’s not me as someone in this post is assuming, nor am I > making it up. What would making up this kind of stuff do for me? I > think I’ll look for help for her in the ‘real world’.
Go on and shove off, Ben Malone/Joe Alden. You were here under that addy with another weird story LAST month!! And you made the same complaint then as now, that nobody takes you seriously. If you’re daughter is really sexually precocious then get friendly about it with her and find out who got her interested. Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ok, I’m not sure if this is your daughter or yourself you’re talking > about. > I strongly suspect it’s you. > There’s a good possibility that you have obsessive/compulsive > disorder. > This sort of sexual obsession sort of just plain doesn’t happen in > 7yr. > olds, especially girls. > However, in any event, ocd is heritable, and if she indeed is as > precocious > as you say, she inherited her condition from you. > YOU need to see a good psychiatrist. One who can prescribe some > medications. > If your child is actually behaving as you claim, take her with you. > > I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about > > what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and > > this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along > with > > 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and looked at and touched > > each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and > > finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her > > that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with > her to > > be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have > > approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else > > happened, and with no one else. > > However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what > > happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. > We > > tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her > that, > > although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she > > did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious > to > > see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a > symbol > > of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her > her if > > we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell > her > > that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would > help > > her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. > This > > didn’t seem to help much. > > It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, > seems > > to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If > she > > sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind > > her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just > > can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would > be > > better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think > > about something we are bound to think about it more. > > Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of > > opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of > > questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just > curiosity > > between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we > ask > > her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives > something to > > be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each > > time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this > > subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? > What > > could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the > end > > of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about > > it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
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> Any suggestions?
Yes. Drop your Deja account and be never heard from again, Troll. All you Deja people are losers anyway.
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In that case, start with a real world counselor. You’re failing yourself if you do anything otherwise. P.S. I’d STILL drop the Deja account and be never heard from again, k?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I came to this post looking for assistance. I can’t believe the > replies! That’s what I get for looking to the internet for help. > First of all, it’s not me as someone in this post is assuming, nor am I > making it up. What would making up this kind of stuff do for me? I > think I’ll look for help for her in the ‘real world’.
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to Elaine, she is a troll of the worst kind that seeks to hurt > others with her babble. You don’t want to see what Steve would say on this > subject either.
Although I’ve had many disagreements with EG in the past, I do not really consider her to be a Troll, but rather a truly fucked up individual who has yet to resolve serious life issues for him or herself, especially as relating to a dominant male figure in his or her past, perhaps a father or the lack thereof. Steve? Well, he’s just a different story. And I’ve really yet to have had a problem with him. He’s just as comical as they come. Rock on.
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That is actually the best thing you can do Brian. We give good advice here, but we are also jaded from being trolled by those seeking attention in the most unusual way. You would not believe some of the stories we see in here. Don’t listen to Elaine, she is a troll of the worst kind that seeks to hurt others with her babble. You don’t want to see what Steve would say on this subject either. I hope your daughter isn’t permanently traumatized by this incident. Have you talked to the other parents and are you comfortable with talking about this with them? I did some similar types of "playing doctor" when I was around 8 or 9 yrs. old. I didn’t have any lasting impressions or change in behaviour. I think to seek professional advice is much more constructive than asking on usenet, that is full of some pretty weird characters. Best of luck with helping your daughter feel better. Deanna
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I came to this post looking for assistance. I can’t believe the > replies! That’s what I get for looking to the internet for help. > First of all, it’s not me as someone in this post is assuming, nor am I > making it up. What would making up this kind of stuff do for me? I > think I’ll look for help for her in the ‘real world’. > Ok, I’m not sure if this is your daughter or yourself you’re talking > about. > I strongly suspect it’s you. > There’s a good possibility that you have obsessive/compulsive > disorder. > This sort of sexual obsession sort of just plain doesn’t happen in > 7yr. > olds, especially girls. > However, in any event, ocd is heritable, and if she indeed is as > precocious > as you say, she inherited her condition from you. > YOU need to see a good psychiatrist. One who can prescribe some > medications. > If your child is actually behaving as you claim, take her with you. > > I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about > > what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and > > this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along > with > > 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and looked at and touched > > each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and > > finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her > > that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with > her to > > be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have > > approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else > > happened, and with no one else. > > However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what > > happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. > We > > tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her > that, > > although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she > > did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious > to > > see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a > symbol > > of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her > her if > > we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell > her > > that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would > help > > her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. > This > > didn’t seem to help much. > > It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, > seems > > to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If > she > > sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind > > her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just > > can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would > be > > better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think > > about something we are bound to think about it more. > > Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of > > opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of > > questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just > curiosity > > between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we > ask > > her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives > something to > > be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each > > time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this > > subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? > What > > could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the > end > > of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about > > it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
Response:
I came to this post looking for assistance. I can’t believe the replies! That’s what I get for looking to the internet for help. First of all, it’s not me as someone in this post is assuming, nor am I making it up. What would making up this kind of stuff do for me? I think I’ll look for help for her in the ‘real world’. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ok, I’m not sure if this is your daughter or yourself you’re talking about. > I strongly suspect it’s you. > There’s a good possibility that you have obsessive/compulsive disorder. > This sort of sexual obsession sort of just plain doesn’t happen in 7yr. > olds, especially girls. > However, in any event, ocd is heritable, and if she indeed is as precocious > as you say, she inherited her condition from you. > YOU need to see a good psychiatrist. One who can prescribe some medications. > If your child is actually behaving as you claim, take her with you. > I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about > what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and > this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along with > 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and looked at and touched > each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and > finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her > that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with her to > be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have > approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else > happened, and with no one else. > However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what > happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. We > tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her that, > although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she > did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious to > see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a symbol > of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her her if > we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell her > that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would help > her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. This > didn’t seem to help much. > It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, seems > to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If she > sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind > her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just > can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would be > better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think > about something we are bound to think about it more. > Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of > opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of > questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just curiosity > between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we ask > her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives something to > be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each > time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this > subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? What > could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the end > of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about > it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
Response:
It is hard to know if some of these questions are real or not. We get too many trolls. If you have some real concern about your daughter’s mental state and her possible trauma from an incident like this one, then take her to a mental health professional. Some kids experiment and it doesn’t have any sort of negative effect on them. Some children may experience more anxiety about the activity and need counseling. Deanna
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about > what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and > this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along with > 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and looked at and touched > each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and > finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her > that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with her to > be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have > approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else > happened, and with no one else. > However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what > happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. We > tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her that, > although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she > did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious to > see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a symbol > of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her her if > we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell her > that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would help > her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. This > didn’t seem to help much. > It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, seems > to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If she > sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind > her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just > can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would be > better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think > about something we are bound to think about it more. > Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of > opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of > questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just curiosity > between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we ask > her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives something to > be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each > time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this > subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? What > could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the end > of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about > it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
Response:
Elaine doesn’t have kids, so of course she thinks this is about the adult. (Actually, most of her posts are really about herself – you have OCD in your family, right, Elaine?) At any rate, this is one of the more wacked-out posts that our resident childless clueless troll contributes regularly. You’re free to ignore it. Banty – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Ok, I’m not sure if this is your daughter or yourself you’re talking about. >I strongly suspect it’s you. >There’s a good possibility that you have obsessive/compulsive disorder. >This sort of sexual obsession sort of just plain doesn’t happen in 7yr. >olds, especially girls. >However, in any event, ocd is heritable, and if she indeed is as precocious >as you say, she inherited her condition from you. >YOU need to see a good psychiatrist. One who can prescribe some medications. >If your child is actually behaving as you claim, take her with you. > I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about > what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and > this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along with > 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and looked at and touched > each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and > finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her > that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with her to > be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have > approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else > happened, and with no one else. > However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what > happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. We > tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her that, > although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she > did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious to > see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a symbol > of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her her if > we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell her > that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would help > her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. This > didn’t seem to help much. > It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, seems > to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If she > sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind > her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just > can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would be > better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think > about something we are bound to think about it more. > Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of > opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of > questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just curiosity > between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we ask > her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives something to > be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each > time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this > subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? What > could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the end > of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about > it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
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You guys! This is Ben Malone/Joe Alden, the troll!!! Hello in Florida, Ben! Look at the headers: — nntp1-sf.pbi.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!63.208.208.143! feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com! news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu! nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com! — Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about > what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and > this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along with > 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and looked at and touched > each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and > finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her > that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with her to > be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have > approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else > happened, and with no one else. > However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what > happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. We > tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her that, > although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she > did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious to > see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a symbol > of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her her if > we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell her > that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would help > her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. This > didn’t seem to help much. > It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, seems > to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If she > sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind > her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just > can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would be > better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think > about something we are bound to think about it more. > Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of > opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of > questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just curiosity > between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we ask > her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives something to > be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each > time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this > subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? What > could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the end > of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about > it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
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Young girls of that age don’t get ideas like that about sex & everything she see’s reminds her of a sexual body part without some kind of adult input. Sure kids are curious & will at some stage MAYBE explore themselves with another kid of the same age. But imo the things you describe cannot come soley from the innocent minds of 6 7 & 8 year olds without some how seeing or hearing it from another source.first. Are you sure she is not watching adult movies perhaps at a friends house, or seen some books that have been left lying around. Or even maybe (i risk being flamed here) imo, you are just making it up for some sick reason. — Tracy Mum to Lydia, 9 & Michael, 3. Think you can, think you can’t, either way your right.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about > what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and > this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along with > 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and looked at and touched > each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and > finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her > that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with her to > be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have > approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else > happened, and with no one else. > However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what > happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. We > tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her that, > although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she > did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious to > see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a symbol > of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her her if > we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell her > that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would help > her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. This > didn’t seem to help much. > It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, seems > to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If she > sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind > her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just > can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would be > better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think > about something we are bound to think about it more. > Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of > opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of > questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just curiosity > between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we ask > her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives something to > be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each > time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this > subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? What > could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the end > of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about > it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
Response:
Ok, I’m not sure if this is your daughter or yourself you’re talking about. I strongly suspect it’s you. There’s a good possibility that you have obsessive/compulsive disorder. This sort of sexual obsession sort of just plain doesn’t happen in 7yr. olds, especially girls. However, in any event, ocd is heritable, and if she indeed is as precocious as you say, she inherited her condition from you. YOU need to see a good psychiatrist. One who can prescribe some medications. If your child is actually behaving as you claim, take her with you.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about > what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and > this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along with > 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and looked at and touched > each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and > finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her > that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with her to > be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have > approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else > happened, and with no one else. > However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what > happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. We > tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her that, > although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she > did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious to > see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a symbol > of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her her if > we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell her > that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would help > her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. This > didn’t seem to help much. > It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, seems > to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If she > sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind > her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just > can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would be > better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think > about something we are bound to think about it more. > Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of > opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of > questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just curiosity > between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we ask > her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives something to > be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each > time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this > subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? What > could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the end > of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about > it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
Response:
I am hoping that someone can provide me with some information about what my daughter is going through now. She is seven years old, and this summer (she was six then) told my wife and me that she, along with 3 other kids in our building (ages 6, 7 and looked at and touched each other’s private areas. She kept this in for many months, and finally cried, saying that she thought she had sex. We assured her that what she did wasn’t sex. We had several conversations with her to be certain that what she described is all that happened. We have approached it so many ways, we are confident that nothing else happened, and with no one else. However, for the last month or so, she seems so obsessed with what happened. At first it was like she was unable to forgive herself. We tried many things. We explained that we forgive her; we told her that, although she must never do anything like it again, but that what she did was out of curiosity (because she told us that she was curious to see how boys were made) I gave her a crucifix to wear, hoping a symbol of forgiveness would help. It didn’t. We asked if it would her her if we approaced the oldest of the other kids in her presence to tell her that we won’t tolerate future similar activity. She said it would help her, so my wife arrange for the girl to visit, and they talked. This didn’t seem to help much. It is now getting to the point that everything she talks about, seems to involve sex (at least what she thinks she knows about it). If she sees a carrot, she says it reminds her of a penis; lightbulbs remind her of breasts, etc… Sometimes she cries because she says she just can’t seem to stop thinking about it. We’ve told her that it would be better to let herself think about because if we know we can’t think about something we are bound to think about it more. Between me, my wife, and my wife’s sister, we have had lots of opportunities to talk with my daughter. We asked all kinds of questions so many ways, that we are certain that it was just curiosity between the kids. We don’t know where to draw the line. When we ask her not to talk about sexual objects (or how she perceives something to be a sexual object) she says she feels like she must tell us each time. It has become that almost all time spent with her is on this subject. We don’t know what to do. Where do we draw the line? What could we say or do to make her realize that what she did isn’t the end of the world? I don’t want to go on for the next year talking about it. It’s the same thing day after day. Any suggestions?
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