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The point isn’t who is to blame or who is right and who is wrong. In regard to this topic and the way we *adults* have handled it When the stuff starts flying it lands on everyone! I think that is a point and lesson we all have learned… like SnL wrote….What is alt.parenting.solutions?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I agree. It’s time top lay this one to rest! Allie obviously has > opinions of her own (of which I might add she is entitled to). However > turning a topic into a battleground in a place that was designed to offer > support, advice, and outlets for PARENTS reaching out for solutions from > others that have been there. > it is unfortuante that the CHAT rooms have been turned into > dating rooms. That would be a better forum for allie to vent her pet > peeve among other childless single people who would be her Ali there. > This group is not heraldo rivera, jenny jones… > this has been a haven for many, a hug when you really need it and full of > loving caring parents. > Let’s redisn the thread to What is alt.parenting solutions to you > and let it be.
PLEASE! I agree 100% Janice
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>I agree. It’s time top lay this one to rest! Allie obviously has >opinions of her own (of which I might add she is entitled to).
this is directed at me…so I will respond. I answered Mary’s posting and I think it will give you an idea of why I think that this topic was relevant to this group. I did NOTstart the battle ground singling anyone out and calling them insulting names etc. I responded in kind only after I was personally attacked. If you all think that tantrums are low on the list of priorities, if you all think that not being concerned about manners and proper behavior is NOT an important subject, then you’re very welcomed to your little clique. You may try to silence me, but believe me there’s alot just like me who’ll be more than happy to come back here and be equally as vocal. People are sick of badly parented children. What really amuses me most is that if you and yours don’t have the type of kids I’m supposedly describing, what’s your beef? In the mean time, Read the thread in chronlogical order. I did not sling mud *first* here. You’ll also be surprised to know that not everyone happens to disagree with my point of view. Allie
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Thanks for putting it all back in perspective, sorry I was a contributor to this madness, wish I never even read past the first post. You are right, let’s move on. Karyn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> okay okay….so i think we have pretty much covered the topic… > nails are starting to come out and all of us are beginning to > appear as one of those children in the store.
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>just like the tantrums of our children…we have the ability to prove once >and for all that our decisions to ignore the children through their >youthful ignorance and realize that they outgrow tantrums and the >behaviors….or person….goes away!
How very clever. "or person"…Next time you have a flame, perhaps you should have the guts to post under your normal aol.account name and point a finger at the person directly. Coward. .
Response:
I agree. It’s time top lay this one to rest! Allie obviously has opinions of her own (of which I might add she is entitled to). However turning a topic into a battleground in a place that was designed to offer support, advice, and outlets for PARENTS reaching out for solutions from others that have been there. it is unfortuante that the CHAT rooms have been turned into dating rooms. That would be a better forum for allie to vent her pet peeve among other childless single people who would be her Ali there. This group is not heraldo rivera, jenny jones… this has been a haven for many, a hug when you really need it and full of loving caring parents. Let’s redisn the thread to What is alt.parenting solutions to you and let it be.
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okay okay….so i think we have pretty much covered the topic… nails are starting to come out and all of us are beginning to appear as one of those children in the store. A child wants his way or his opinion agreed with and his need immediately met and of course….HE IS RIGHT! The parent through the experience of trial and error – trys their very best to alter and hopefully bring an end to those "screaming tantrums". Sometimes the negoitiating, pleading, removing them from the store, unavailble childcare, and every self help book available (most of which say to do this very thing) does not change or prevent the tantrums from happening —-The solution is IGNORE the CHILD and demonstrate that we all must go about the business of living despite obstacles that come in our way. A very valuable lesson! The numerous posts to this topic have left many of us bouncing back and forth in our own tantrum (me included). I would suggest that instead of letting certain individuals rule the topic of what this newsgroup is really about and refocus our efforts towards the task at hand…being supportive of one another. just like the tantrums of our children…we have the ability to prove once and for all that our decisions to ignore the children through their youthful ignorance and realize that they outgrow tantrums and the behaviors….or person….goes away!
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